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Offline |FA| Arbi†er

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Burst fire?
« on: May 10, 2007, 03:53:44 am »
I dont know whether this has been suggested before, but, maybe we could get burst fire.
EX, a halo mod

[FN Minimi] (which  will be the battle rifle.)
Damage=???
Ammo=36
Reload=??
etc etc...
Recoil=?
Burst Fire Bullets=3

would this be possible?

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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2007, 04:01:30 am »
Well, http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=1978.0

I'm sure they could do this, but to be honest it isn't really needed.  Holding the mouse button down, firing a few rounds, then releasing may suffice. 
« Last Edit: May 10, 2007, 04:15:42 am by Meep. »

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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2007, 04:20:56 am »
Good idea, but i agree, its not needed.

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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2007, 05:02:34 am »
its not needed.

For moders it's very needed! Also AK-74 can shoot single fire, burst and automatic so I think that on some servers it would be used.

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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2007, 05:32:23 am »
I'd love a "change fire mode" button for autos, but it's never going to happen.

Also: in real life, the Minimi and AK-74 don't have burst-fire modes.  I don't think the Minimi even has a semi-automatic mode, though the AK does.  The MP5 is the only gun in Soldat whose real-life counterpart has a burst-fire option.

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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2007, 06:14:33 am »
I'd love a "change fire mode" button for autos, but it's never going to happen.

Also: in real life, the Minimi and AK-74 don't have burst-fire modes.  I don't think the Minimi even has a semi-automatic mode, though the AK does.  The MP5 is the only gun in Soldat whose real-life counterpart has a burst-fire option.
Actually, some version do, they are used for training soldiers.
But this is OT.

I would enjoy playing with the burst fire attribute.

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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #6 on: May 10, 2007, 08:41:44 am »
A Button would be nice to turn this option on/off, but would make it much more powerful.

Think, each click gives you three shots.  Click rapidly and you get a high-powered minigun, capable of taking out 2-3 people at once.

Think of a bucket.  If you want to get someone wet, you throw some of it at them.  The water if your ammo >;]

With burst fire, rapidly clicking is like throwing the entire bucket at them, spraying them entirely, but waisting your water.

I think it would be too powerful, unless there is a time period where you must wait to burst fire again, instead of rapidly clicking.  Maybe like 2 / sec.

With the button idea,  who would use single shot? Really? You rush and fire.  (unless your a sniper of course).  I guess single shot could be used realistic CTF (Trenchwars?) when you want to only get one shot in.. or something..

But if it would switch from auto to burst, would be cool.  But still doesn't make sense.. you can just go full auto..

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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #7 on: May 10, 2007, 09:13:51 am »
Personally, I would love burst fire.  Despite how many of you other naysayers just argue about full-auto's superiority, you have to consider how many burst-fire weapons there are, and how admittedly awesome burst fire could be.  It could open entirely new possibilities for modding, when you get right down to it.  In the end, you can't deny that a burst-fire rifle is curiously stylish.

This concept gets my support.
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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2007, 09:37:34 am »
We must realize the one thing that makes this suggestion make sense:

Currently, bursting is inefficient. Try firing bursts, it takes some effort.

We put this in, everyone will use it. It has more benefits than auto: It saves ammo, it's more accurate, and you can simulate accurate auto fire with it by mashing the fire button.

And, yes, we'd need a delay between bursts to keep it balanced.

For all concerned:

YES THE MINIMI HAS A SINGLE SHOT OPTION!
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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2007, 10:34:02 am »
The Minimi has? I thought it was a Machine Rifle.

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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #10 on: May 10, 2007, 11:31:15 am »
The Minimi has? I thought it was a Machine Rifle.

Most guns these days have a few different firing modes, most often 1-3 or 1-F, excluding the safety.

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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #11 on: May 10, 2007, 01:33:23 pm »
The Minimi has? I thought it was a Machine Rifle.
It can fire from both its box magazine and M16 clips. And, you don't want to fire full auto with an M16 clip. It does have a single shot mode, so you can save ammo if you don't have any box magazines left, or you want to make the enemy think they have a sniper keepin them pinned down.
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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #12 on: May 10, 2007, 03:04:00 pm »
The Minimi has? I thought it was a Machine Rifle.
The Minimi has? I thought it was a Machine Rifle.
It can fire from both its box magazine and M16 clips. And, you don't want to fire full auto with an M16 clip. It does have a single shot mode, so you can save ammo if you don't have any box magazines left, or you want to make the enemy think they have a sniper keepin them pinned down.

Damn! Guys do yo' know anything about real weapons?! M249 SAW has only safety catch.
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Od początku założono, że broń strzelać ma z zamka otwartego, wyłącznie ogniem ciągłym
(From the begining assumption was that the weapon would shoot with open lock, only with automatic fire.)

On topic: now there are no chance to make good (realistic) US modern army mod. Basic army weapons is M16A2 that can shoot only with single fire or burst (3 shoots). The same with FaMas.
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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #13 on: May 10, 2007, 05:48:43 pm »
FaMas is full auto, son. And please learn proper English.

Certain variants of the Minimi do have single shot fire, but not the standard one. We all got kind of confused there.

I believe that Hardwar Tactics made burst fire with some of its weapons. So it could be possible.
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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #14 on: May 10, 2007, 10:31:24 pm »
FaMas is full auto, son.

It's both.  And who cares about training variants of the Minimi?

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A Button would be nice to turn this option on/off, but would make it much more powerful.

Think, each click gives you three shots.  Click rapidly and you get a high-powered minigun, capable of taking out 2-3 people at once.

What the hell?  Do you seriously think that someone would implement burst fire such that you could fire another burst while the current burst is still firing?  If you don't know what burst fire is, read about it.

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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2007, 05:33:19 am »
lol, i just created a gun arguement mod  :P.

anyway, yeah, there would probably be a slight delay..

and, after all, all i do is play, so i know no shit bout programming.

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Re: Burst fire?
« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2007, 07:12:55 am »
FaMas is full auto, son. And please learn proper English.

Certain variants of the Minimi do have single shot fire, but not the standard one. We all got kind of confused there.

Quote from: world.guns.ru
The selector has 3 positions for safe, single shots, and automatic fire. Additional three-rounds bursts module is built into the firing mechanism housing, with the additional selector under the housing, behind the magazine, that allows for the unlimited full automatic fire or 3 rounds burst modes to be selected (when the main selector is in the full auto mode).

Sorry, I was a bit to wrong. ::)

Minimi - I don't think so. Tell me at least name of minimi model that can shoot with single shoots.

And please learn proper English.

I guess that you mean my translate from polish to english. I'm not very good at speaking english.

But I think that we're in agreement that burst fire should be added.