Keron Cyst's htf_Alsone

[The Specialist]

Today, I was really bored and decided to search the entire forums to find some decent and quality Soldat maps, since I was bored with the default ones.  Then I came across this one.  Keron never finished it and gave anyone full permission who downloaded it to that.  So then I did.

The Basics:
It is fully complete
It only supports Hold the Flag
It is fully waypointed (Thankfully, it wasn't by me)
It is best for 8 to 10 players
Another note is that this is the first Hold the Flag map with a winter theme to it.  (Oh, yeah.  I rock)

Overview Screenshot:
http://img516.imageshack.us/my.php?image=htfalsonevq5.png

[Keron Cyst]

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/3640/alsonebe9.png

All you did was change the texture and fill in the hole at the bottom... and you thought that was enough to merit a 2-star jump (the original was rated 3 stars, and you gave this 5)...

[The Specialist]

What's wrong with a Five Star Review? 

The original texture "Bananas" just made the map look plain and boring.  With a new texture and some scenery in-placements, a polygon bug fixed, and some polygon type changes, you have to agree it was better than before.

[KamikazeDuck]

The shading looks strange now because the polygons are lighter, the brown is too bright.

I wouldn't really call what you've done with Keron's map, "finishing" but more polishing up.

The map is lacking scenery and seems kind of empty due to that. I say keep working on it, the map could end up looking very nice if some more effort is put in.

[Laser Guy]

almost no difference betweenthe original and the remake...

[rainrider]

Old one looks *way* better than your version.

[GluLm]

You call that a remake?
Keron Cyst's was better.
Another useless topic...

[The Specialist]

Keron was pretty mad with what I did with his map.  I've decided to fix it up a little more.  And this time I guarantee, it'll be better.

[Keron Cyst]

Heheh... not really "mad," just annoyed. But I'm not going to hide the fact that I was outraged by how you arrogantly gave your own thread 5 stars. Do you always do that? I didn't even think my original Alsone was worth 5; I rated myself a 3. Stars are extremely powerful, so be honest and don't abuse the system. (Of course, if you really DO think this deserved a 5, well... o_O)

[Eagles_Arrows]

I'm not going to hide the fact that I was outraged by how you arrogantly gave your own thread 5 stars. Do you always do that?

He does, actually...

Well, anyway.  Now that you changed the texture to a much brighter one, the shading looks bad, especially with the brown coloring on the lower left.  And personally, I liked the little hole in the original.

[The Specialist]

I rate maps honestly.    For "htf_KillZone" I gave it a 4 out of 5.  Moral, I gave a 2 out of 5, and Soldiers Playground, I rated it a 3 out of 5.  This map may not be so good, but its better than what I make. 

Also, why does everybody like the hole at the bottom of the map in the original version?

[wedding]

Map has got potencial but scenery-placement and shading must be better...Maybe i make it at the week-end....Dun know

GRTZ:

[AdkZ] -=BuTcH3r=-

[The Specialist]

If you feel you can improve it, give it a try.

[Keron Cyst]

Spam by Laser Guy deleted.

I rate maps honestly.    For "htf_KillZone" I gave it a 4 out of 5.  Moral, I gave a 2 out of 5, and Soldiers Playground, I rated it a 3 out of 5.  This map may not be so good, but its better than what I make.

I see. Well, at least you're not just secretly beefing up your own work to trick others into thinking it's awesome.

Also, why does everybody like the hole at the bottom of the map in the original version?

lol. I don't care about it, but I just mentioned it as only one of the minor things you tweaked...

[Blue-ninja]

2l84me: The layout is pretty interesting, but what bothers me is the texture, the shading, and not a lot of sceneries. I have to admit, if you used default Jungle sceneries, it would make this map look good, possibly better. If you also took the time to select a new texture that can be stretched...

@Keron: You can waypoint people's maps if they ask nicely?

[{depth}shaman]

whoa! shouldn't one ask before modifying his work? Did you ask keron if this was cool, cause, whoa!

[KamikazeDuck]

He had permission to modify the map.

The problem is that he didn't modify enough or put a large amount of effort into the map to really classify it as "finished". That's all.

[Keron Cyst]

You can waypoint people's maps if they ask nicely?

Depends. It's not that I'm a rock to approach—I just basically have a tight schedule, all the time. So I won't waypoint a map unless I think it's default-quality or better and therefore worth the time to waypoint it. If it's small or simple tho' I might take a stab at it even if it doesn't match up to my expectations...

(Or if I've known the mapper for a while )