Hosting servers

[Mikeman]

How much harddisk space would use 5 servers per year?

Three 14 slot servers
One 10 slot server
One 8 slot server

EDIT: And how much would they cause traffic to the host?

[DePhille]

Traffic is easy to calculate: look at the sticky
Formula: 125(N + N^2) /1024 Where N is the number of players.

Diskspace depends if you will be logging or not, and if you're going to compress the logfiles or not. If not compressed I think you'll be needing around 750MB per 8 players a year. So I'd guess you'll be needing atleast 3GBytes a year when logging. If you compress the logs, they're around 30times smaller. With compressed logs you'd only need around 100MBytes of  diskspace. Please note that the diskspace depends alot on how much the server is used, more particular how many people are killed in the server. The server itself only takes around 20MB per server, so 100MB in your case.

Grtz, DePhille

[Mikeman]

So 512 RAM and 6 GB and 100mbit connection would be enough, if I delete logs every year..

[DePhille]

Uhm, I think that should indeed be enough.
If you're running windows then it might start to lag, but I don't think 512 is too little for 5 servers. I think 5 servers use around 256MB of RAM, so it'll depend on what other programs you've got running.

Grtz, DePhille

[Mikeman]

It's a virtualserver and running on linux

[DePhille]

Well then it should work fine I guess.

[Mikeman]

So no major lagging?

After I calculated the euros.. buying a virtualserver is A LOT cheaper than paying for 5 servers to selfkill.

PS. Sry selfkill 

[DePhille]

That's true, but hey, why else rent servers?
I've also done those calculations, and that's why I'll be able to offer server rentals at a very cheap price once I can buy my dedicated server. However, I still need donations to do that.

Grtz, DePhille

[chrisgbk]

I wouldn't recommend using a virtual server; you are sharing computer resources with typically a large number of people, and performance may suffer as a result, on top of the overhead of managing all of the virtual servers themselves.

[Mikeman]

The virtualserver is not sharing its' memory or harddisk space with other computers/people.

[Clawbug]

The virtualserver is not sharing its' memory or harddisk space with other computers/people.

But is sharing it's CPU time, in some cases.

The RAM will not run out(except if you are running multiple huge scripts on a 32-slot server with many admins connected and with custom maps), so no need to worry about it really.

Just log 2 servers, and run like 10, I Believe you COULD be able to do it smoothly.

I will try also, after I receive few shell accounts next week.

[Mikeman]

Just log 2 servers, and run like 10, I Believe you COULD be able to do it smoothly.

Umm what do you mean with 10?

[Clawbug]

Just log 2 servers, and run like 10, I Believe you COULD be able to do it smoothly.

Umm what do you mean with 10?

I somewhat believe yu ould actually run around 10 servers with that hardware. Just add 5 servers 6 slots more, i'd assume that it could work.

Unless there is CPU quota to be the bottleneck (I don't think so. ) or bandwidth quota. Memory can get pretty low, but that shouldn't be that big problem, if there is enough free CPU cycles for the unoccupied HDD's.

If there is something to be the bottleneck, then just close some servers, but I think that with those 5 servers, you still would have enough free resources for more.

Go ahead and try.

[EnEsCe]

Virtual Servers are absolute crap for hosting servers, I am speaking from experience. They lag horribly and may get crashes alot more often

[Mikeman]

Virtual Servers are absolute crap for hosting servers, I am speaking from experience. They lag horribly and may get crashes alot more often

So what is that you recommend to use?

[Clawbug]

Full "real" dedicated servers. That you actually rent the physical server for your own use, and host stuff on it, and no one else has an access to the physical server than you.

Well, it costs alot more, but it is alot more faster and reliable though.

It kinda depends on what is being hosted on that server/connection which your servers share with other clients using the same physical server.

[FliesLikeABrick]

What clawbug said, or if you have a good connection at home then you might be able to run one or two decent servers from home... or rent Soldat servers from someone like me, enesce, or selfkill (depending on which part of the world you're in)

[Mikeman]

How many servers I could run with the first one, and how many with the another one? (they are dedicated servers)

Supermicro 1U

Intel Core 2 Duo E6300 (1866/1066 MHz)

1 GB RAM (DDR2)

2 x 80 GB SATA (RAID-1)

Supermicro 1U

2 x Intel Xeon 5120 (1866/1066 MHz)

2 GB RAM (DDR2 FB-DIMM)

2 x 250 GB SATA (RAID-1)

And lets say with 100mbs connection

[chillis34]

lol ever think of turning logging off? it will fix any memory problems

[FliesLikeABrick]

lol ever think of turning logging off? it will fix any memory problems

what are you talking about?  Logging has little or no effect on how much memory the server occupies.


Mikeman: the first one could probably do 10-20, assuming the machine isn't used for anything else like webhosting.  The second could probably do 2-3 times that.