Human irrelevancy..

[echo_trail]

Hey lads,

Do you ever think about life? I mean, if it really matters? Whenever someone dies and you hear about it on the news, you're like "Woah, I'm glad that's not someone I know", and as soon as you turn off the teli, it becomes but a distant memory of something irrelevant. It's not even unpleasent, it's just forgotten.
Why is it that we don't care about eachother, and why does the fate of others mean so little? If I were to leave and never come back, you guys wouldn't care one bit. I don't blame you, 'cause it's just human nature, but it's really a little sad, isn't it?

It's now 02:39am, and I almost just got home from watching movies at a friends place. As I walked through the night, not meeting anyone on my entire way home, I just really go to think about stuff.
I'm on "study break" right now, which means I get time off from school to prepare for this semestres exams. Last couple of nights I've been out drinking with the blokes, I even scored myself a chick. I should be flying high on the summer happiness, but I find myself without it.. I'm not really sure why, 'cause nothing seems to be out of order. Come to think of it, it's been like that for some time. My life goes on as if nothing is wrong, and most of the time I'm able to set this feeling aside completely, and I can enjoy myself along with everyone else. Not allways though..
I remember this one time; it was another night out with the boyos, and we were all drunk as ****. We had ourselfs a great time. We ordered a couple of beers at a place called "the Pup", and we went to sit down. We talked random stuff over, no change there, but suddently I just started wondering about my life. It was like I just went into this shell, and I felt like I sobered up instantly. I just felt so terrible, and I really just wanted to go home. The guys asked me what was wrong, all of them sencing it. I just didn't know what to tell'em, 'cause to be honest I didn't know. Said I just needed some fresh air, and I went out hoping it'd be overwith and I could get back in the mood, but there was just nothing to do. I ended up going home, leaving the guys behind.

It's happened a couple of times since, and not only on our occassional beerruns. As I went home tonight, I got that same feeling, like my very existance doesn't matter. I'm usually very stressed about school, and I feel like a lot of pressure is on me, in terms of making it through with high grades. Suddently I just feel so tiny in this huge universe, and I feel like everythings just irrelevant. I am an ant, and should I disappear another one would take my place, and I would be forgotten just like anyone of you would.
I always liked life, but I was never afraid to die. But right now, to be completely honest with you guys, I don't give a **** either way. I'm not suicidal or anything, and I actually don't feel depressed or nothing. I just feel like nothing I do ever matters for ****. I feel like I need to get out of my life..

Anyway, I'm probably just talking nonsence to you.. Make of it what you will.

echo_trail

[Mangled*]

The truth is that on the scale of it... every human is irrelevent in comparrison to the absolute colossal scale of the universe.

But that is not to say you do not matter. Everyone matters to a number of people... The fact that your friends were concerned when they noticed you were feeling down is sheer proof that you do matter.

What you have to understand is that we are all insignificant on our own to the rest of the world. But you are not insignificant or irrelevant to the people who care about you.. In this sense we're all in the same boat. You are insignificant until you acheive something significant.

Tomorrow you could save someones life by sheer accident, but it would be a significant thing. You would have impacted upon that person life in a way no other person could, and it would not be forgotten.

It's in our nature to not care about people we don't know... It's pack mentality of humans... If a friend or member of your family died you would be sad because they are people who will be missed by you... unlike someone you have never spoken to or met... who naturally has had no impact upon your life.

What you're going through is probably a stage in emotional devlopment. I've been through a similar thing... (although it's not the same) Having been brought up as an Atheist I had never really contemplated death and what happens when you die... When I was about 10 or 11 I began to try to imagine the infinate nothingness that would occur at death and that it would mean I was lost forever and cease to exist. I battled with this idea in my head for about 6 months, some times getting very upset by the thought... But then there was a point when I reached a realisation... I realised that I would not be capable of perceiving death since I was dead... and so the only experience I would have was life itself, and that unless I died slowly somehow.. like bleeding to death slowly.. or starving.. I would probably not know I was dying and once I was dead it would not matter.

Try not to get yourself too worked up about school, and try not to think about such potentially psychologically traumatic subjects... particularly when you're drunk because it will make you feel three times as bad as it would normally. Alcohol affects your emotional state on a large scale, if you're violent it makes you more violent, if you're depressed it makes you more depressed etc...

What is important is to not just forget about it... You will feel much better when you have resolved the idea in your head and after that it will not bother you.

[echo_trail]

It's not that I have something I cannot cope with, I'm not afraid of dying, as I said. I don't have some fears underneath the skin that I need to get in control, and there's nothing I need to accept. That's what makes it so hard, 'cause there's nothing I can do about it appearently.

Trust me mate, what you said would be very true in most cases and I appreciate it, but it just doesn't work for me. I've tried sitting down and just think about what the problem is, you know? To reach the core, but I can't seem to find anything. Sure there's been thing happening in my life that I wish hadn't, but I'm no longer touched by them, at least not so much as I used to be. My liufe is fine, so it makes no sence to me at all.

You're right about me frineds, though. I always picked my closest mates carefully, and some of them are truely like brothers to me. I don't feel like I don't matter in their eyes, and thanks for reminding me. Especially one bloke, Jonas.. I really think he'd be of badly if I wasn't around, and I gotta say there's some comfort in that.

Still, I wish I could just go away somewhere far, and I wish I could take those few closest to me along. I'm so fed up with my everyday it makes me sick, and the thought of having to spend more years here is just... depressing.

I don't know, man.. I think I'd better just go to bed and sleep on it, hoping I feel better by dawn.
Thanks M, appreciate it mate.

echo_trail

[Dascoo]

I could only say the deaths of two people would only make feel a sense of loss or grief... and my dog.

[Smegma]

Unfortunately, humans do hold some relevancy in the universe or at least some basic connections. Do you? Sure, of course, but if you died, would things change much? Probably not. Relevancy does not denote importance. As well, those who don't understand certain things may not realize their own relevance in a "grand scheme" and how things are connected, trying to patch things of what they do know, and while we don't know too much of the world we certainly know enough to see connections form through out the cosmos.

If you want importance, then you should go off looking else where trying to effect other humans as it seems to be your main point.

If you want relevance, look no further than the stars.

The greatest comfort you can find, is the comfort in the common and the understanding of chaos.

[The Philanthropist]

Your actions will live on in the memories of others. You just have to make a difference big enough to be remembered.


 That is pretty much my philosophy on life. I thought about stuff like teh above posts (Death, Irrelevance etc) until I came to that conclusion.

[karmazon]

That's why you gotta live a life that people will remember for hundreds and thousands of years like Jesus Christ, Gandhi, Arnold etc.

[Graham]

That's why you gotta live a life that people will remember for hundreds and thousands of years like Jesus Christ, Gandhi, Arnold etc.

Thing about that is that not everyone wants to be remembered forever, some people just want to live a quiet life and be with someone they love, maybe raise a family.

[The Philanthropist]

That's why you gotta live a life that people will remember for hundreds and thousands of years like Jesus Christ, Gandhi, Arnold etc.

Thing about that is that not everyone wants to be remembered forever, some people just want to live a quiet life and be with someone they love, maybe raise a family.

Then people think, "Wow, that guy sure was decent." And then they will probably forget you after a generation or two, even within their own families. If you want to be forgotten, then you made the descision to be irrelevant.

[Graham]

That's why you gotta live a life that people will remember for hundreds and thousands of years like Jesus Christ, Gandhi, Arnold etc.

Thing about that is that not everyone wants to be remembered forever, some people just want to live a quiet life and be with someone they love, maybe raise a family.

Then people think, "Wow, that guy sure was decent." And then they will probably forget you after a generation or two, even within their own families. If you want to be forgotten, then you made the descision to be irrelevant.

Why live your life for other people? Why not simply do what makes you happy? If being remembered for whatever reason makes you happy then do it. Just don't judge everyone by your standards, since not everyone wants what you want.

[Captain Ben]

who doesn't want to be remembered?

[ElephantHunter]

Obviously, on the scale of absolutely everything, you are nothing. Even god has to wonder where his place is. Measurement of oneself in comparison to the universe will only lead to realizing how little of an impact you have.

Last night I woke up out of the blue, thinking about how insignificant my life has been. A couple more days and I'll be twenty. What's next for me? Where did my determination to fulfill my dream of wealth and knowledge go? It's like I'm in a nightmare where every turn leads me back to the same dull day.

Bah, that's kinda depressing.

[Cookie.]

You can make a difference and live on forever through your genes!  Just have lots and lots of babies and your genes will carry on forever.  Unless all of your children die or something, due to all those crappy genes you passed onto them, or due to incest lawlz.

[Rhombus]

If you suddenly disappear or die... your family and friends will cry... It won't be anything like they see on the tele. But nobody else will really care.... why? because they don't know you.... I have no idea how many people die each day but I know it's a lot. If I started caring about every single one of them... I'd be one depressed sunovamother. Just enjoy your life knowing that you're not important. I do that too.

Some people try to be remembered through spamming, but you see that doesnt work...

[Captain Ben]

get paid get laid
that's all you need to worry about

[Cookie.]

get paid get laid
that's all you need to worry about

Also follow this equation

More Money = More Cash = More Hoes!

[Tallacaps]

"Whatever you do will be insignificant, but it is very important that you do it."

Ghandi

The insignificant thing is a classic eastern religion thing...

You know. Recycle! 

And deceive you to you. All winners do that. In fact nobody(or the most like me) knows the truth.

Reality is that all of us don't exist when you close the eyes. When you die the entire universe will die. Long life to you!

(Sincerely I'm not sure death exists, The energy does only not disappear it, it transforms.)

In fact I add nobody knows the actual frontier between living matter and inanimate matter. 

You could be a zombie now! 

[Pred]

I look at a rockstar like Matt Bellamy, and think "gosh, I wish I could be like him"

He doesn't have a normal life - he has an amazing life. He never has to work a job, only play the music he loves to a crowd of people. He will be remembered as an iconic musician for centuries to come.

Us lot? We're going to grow up, work a job and die. Nobody will remember us in the long-run.

I want to do something good with my life. Start a website that because huge on the internet. Become famous. Sounds good to me.

[Smegma]

You could always become a serial killer.

[Dascoo]

You could always become a serial killer.

Or carry out the genocide of billions of people. Then you'll certainly be remembered right?! Thanks for the idea!