Author Topic: to slow reload on barret? (Read 17873 times)

tehsnipah · « **Reply #40 on:** March 06, 2008, 11:15:25 am »

Quote from: Lemmings on March 06, 2008, 02:36:18 am

I quite like the way the m79 and barret reloads.
its more fun reloading while people are shooting at u. !

the m79 and barret reloads are indeed perfectly fine. but why fun reloading? won't you notice when they take out LAW *phseeewwww!* and u r dead. or just take out socom or knife to kill you.

Meecrob · « **Reply #41 on:** March 10, 2008, 06:12:35 am »

leave the barret as it is and grab the socom as ur 2ndary. Just switch guns and in 6 bullets their dead.

Blizk · « **Reply #42 on:** April 18, 2008, 12:19:56 pm »

The only thing I'd remove from the Barret is the shot trigger delay, because the gun is balanced enough even without it (although the ability of being so accurate airborne is plain stupid).

STM1993 · « **Reply #43 on:** April 18, 2008, 10:15:54 pm »

I think the startup time is okay atm, but if possible, reducing the startup time is also okay. In 1.5 there is a possibility that the fireinterval is faster by 15 ticks.

Ziem · « **Reply #44 on:** April 19, 2008, 01:03:37 am »

Quote from: STM1993 on April 18, 2008, 10:15:54 pm

I think the startup time is okay atm, but if possible, reducing the startup time is also okay. In 1.5 there is a possibility that the fireinterval is faster by 15 ticks.

In my opinion this -15 fireinterval change is going to be added because of the fact that since 1.4 Barret *can't* shoot every 4 seconds (in 1.3.1 you were able to charge it before loading the next bullet, so it was able to shoot every 4 secs)

Quote from: Blizk on April 18, 2008, 12:19:56 pm

The only thing I'd remove from the Barret is the shot trigger delay, because the gun is balanced enough even without it (although the ability of being so accurate airborne is plain stupid).

Yeah let's remove the delay and then watch everyone using barret, like in 1.2.1... no.

STM1993 · « **Reply #45 on:** April 19, 2008, 04:06:19 am »

I also think the -15 fireinterval is a good addition to the new Barret in 1.5. Barret's a lil weak in this current version due to the startup time and you can't really shoot as fast as before. With this -15 fireinterval, it's only slower than 4 seconds by 10 ticks rather than 25 ticks.

Quote from: Blizk on April 18, 2008, 12:19:56 pm

The only thing I'd remove from the Barret is the shot trigger delay, because the gun is balanced enough even without it (although the ability of being so accurate airborne is plain stupid).

If you remove startup time, it's gonna be like 1.2 and 1.3, and a whole group of people are going to use the Barret. And the Barret is supposed to be the "camper's gun", but it proved to be effective even in the middle of an intense battle ; everyone has learnt how to overcome the movement acc. It has become such an easy weapon to use. So, the startup time is made to balance this out.

Without the startup time, I can just use the Barret, jump into the air, prone, stop moving and just tap the shoot button and kill someone before he can shoot or even see you, making it superior to every other weapon in Soldat, and this is not what we want. With startup time, the above situation would either be impossible or difficult to achieve.

JonWood007 · « **Reply #46 on:** April 19, 2008, 04:38:45 pm »

barrett is fine as it is with its times. Use the trusty socom as a secondary.

Sir Jeremy · « **Reply #47 on:** April 25, 2008, 05:11:20 pm »

Barret is Da owwwnnnaaggeee!

Re-load time = Perfect.
Ammo = Perfect
Super Human Barret Skill = Me

Cheers.

$niper · « **Reply #48 on:** April 26, 2008, 02:53:01 am »

Reload time is perfect, if you dont want to die then you have to move like a ninja and dodge the enemy's bullets untill you've reloaded but thats what makes the barret so fun to use.
The only thing i dislike about it is the massively long start up delay, it makes you a sitting duck for about 5 seconds so you often get spawn killed before you even get a chance to fire, especially on small maps.

-Major- · « **Reply #49 on:** April 26, 2008, 06:14:34 am »

long-range weapons aren't suposed to work that well on a short-range map. M79 and Barrett are not weapons choises to consederate in a spawn kill situation.

Ziem · « **Reply #50 on:** April 26, 2008, 07:37:06 am »

Quote from: -Major- on April 26, 2008, 06:14:34 am

long-range weapons aren't suposed to work that well on a short-range map. M79 and Barrett are not weapons choises to consederate in a spawn kill situation.

M79 and Barrett are already good in close range... xD (ok, Barret is situational on closerange... but M79? It's close-mid range weapon.)
Which maps do you count as "short-range maps"?

-Major- · « **Reply #51 on:** April 26, 2008, 07:49:07 am »

Quote from: Ziem on April 26, 2008, 07:37:06 am

Quote from: -Major- on April 26, 2008, 06:14:34 am
long-range weapons aren't suposed to work that well on a short-range map. M79 and Barrett are not weapons choises to consederate in a spawn kill situation.
M79 and Barrett are already good in close range... xD (ok, Barret is situational on closerange... but M79? It's close-mid range weapon.)
Which maps do you count as "short-range maps"?

I said M79 and Barrett should not be picked in a spawn-kill situation. and shortrange is: Nuubia, lanuubia, Steel and Ash. probably more, cant think of any more.

Peu · « **Reply #52 on:** June 04, 2008, 06:45:06 pm »

Does anyone know, is it possible to invert the trigger method so that it's not about clicking the mouse, but about releasing the click?

STM1993 · « **Reply #53 on:** June 04, 2008, 11:16:37 pm »

Quote from: Peu on June 04, 2008, 06:45:06 pm

Does anyone know, is it possible to invert the trigger method so that it's not about clicking the mouse, but about releasing the click?

Bad idea. That's almost as good as having no startup time.

Peu · « **Reply #54 on:** June 05, 2008, 08:08:53 pm »

agreed, I'm just curious as to whether its possible

excruciator · « **Reply #55 on:** June 05, 2008, 10:53:04 pm »

But then there would be no delay, so you have to make a whole new mechanism for the ret.

STM1993 · « **Reply #56 on:** June 05, 2008, 11:23:28 pm »

I have a question for 8th if he sees this:

Since the Barrett's gonna have a -15 fireinterval for firing rate, will the time taken before you can use the scope still be fixed at 240, or will it follow the -15 as well and be fixed there?

Or will it follow the value of the fireinterval in future (regardless the modding in the weapon.ini)?

8th_account · « **Reply #57 on:** June 06, 2008, 04:30:44 am »

Good catch. I'll post it as a bug on mantis

tehsnipah · « **Reply #58 on:** June 06, 2008, 02:53:30 pm »

Quote from: Sir Jeremy on April 25, 2008, 05:11:20 pm

Barret is Da owwwnnnaaggeee!

Re-load time = Perfect.
Ammo = Perfect
Super Human Barret Skill = Me

Cheers.

I'm sorry that I'm out of topic, but I owned you bad last week ~_~.

Quote from: Peu on June 04, 2008, 06:45:06 pm

Does anyone know, is it possible to invert the trigger method so that it's not about clicking the mouse, but about releasing the click?

Why in the world would you do that? Also, that wouldn't make sense, because guns can't control their speed, power and ect. The knife made a sense, but with barret will be extremely hard and people would whine more.

excruciator · « **Reply #59 on:** June 07, 2008, 06:03:09 pm »

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Does anyone know, is it possible to invert the trigger method so that it's not about clicking the mouse, but about releasing the click?
Why in the world would you do that? Also, that wouldn't make sense, because guns can't control their speed, power and ect. The knife made a sense, but with barret will be extremely hard and people would whine more.

Knife is overpowered already, why would you make it even easier.

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Author Topic: to slow reload on barret? (Read 17873 times)