Possible stop to spawning...

[Xxypher]

How? EFC is Enemy Flag Carrier, they can't get back in because they are already out.

[popctrl]

It was planned so you could get back in...He's talking about the original idea, not all the other better ones floating around.

[Valorman]

how about upon spawn, player is granted 3 second invulnrability (possibly can be edited in soldat.ini) and the player can move around and kill any enemy well invincible. except if the enemy has the flag, for fairness. or perhaps this can be an .ini option also.

[SirJamesaford]

Why should we stop spawning anyway?  You should be able to kill one or two dudes spawn killing... i know it gets annoying but its your fault that they are killing you.  I still say that in flag based games spawning is essential for the win.

[Valorman]

Why should we stop spawning anyway?  You should be able to kill one or two dudes spawn killing... i know it gets annoying but its your fault that they are killing you.  I still say that in flag based games spawning is essential for the win.

so its my fault when an enemy throws a grenade at my feet as soon as I spawn? (Giving me a second and a half to get away from it, yeah thats totally my fault [/sarcasm])

[ScarabGun]

I favor this idea, although the team cannot be able to shoot from the spawn area.

[SirJamesaford]

Why should we stop spawning anyway? You should be able to kill one or two dudes spawn killing... i know it gets annoying but its your fault that they are killing you. I still say that in flag based games spawning is essential for the win.

so its my fault when an enemy throws a grenade at my feet as soon as I spawn? (Giving me a second and a half to get away from it, yeah thats totally my fault [/sarcasm])

They arent going to time that right everytime... or even a fourth of a time.  Thats just one of those things.

[crazydude360]

what about one way doors? ever think of that?

[Lord Frunkamunch]

Why should we stop spawning anyway?  You should be able to kill one or two dudes spawn killing... i know it gets annoying but its your fault that they are killing you.  I still say that in flag based games spawning is essential for the win.

Right...

How exactly is it your fault when you spawn in a random area and get killed while you're completely vulnerable?
Maybe you should have joined the other team and switched back to avoid spawning! It's your own fault you didn't!

[Pragma]

Easy solution: Tweak the game so you spawn with your weapon *loaded*.

That way, you're not a sitting duck when you jump into the game.  I've ranted about this before - some weapons don't load until after you're no longer invincible, rendering that advantage/protection somewhat moot when faced with spawn campers.

[BondJamesBond]

You are NOT completely vulnerable when respawning.
When a grenade is thrown at your feet. Someone may have to die, but the explosion will cause surrounding allies to disperse, making it impossible for the spawnkiller to... Spawnkill.
If you have someone with a saw, the problem is taken care of by the multiple respawn points.
If you have a base camper... well you do have about 2 seconds in between each shot to get out of the way.
If you are being mauled by three or more people then your team just sucks and probably deserves it. You don't think they're just going to play pussy-sh*t and let their enemies run free when they can just pin them at their base?

Spawnkilling in CTF and flag-based games, as SirJamesaford has been specifying, is a legitimate tactic. Instead of thinking of it as spawnkilling, how about thinking of it as holding back the enemy to let the FFC escape? Or putting the base under fire to keep the EFC on their toes? Or buying your team some time to reinforce you?

How to counter spawnkilling? GET OUT OF THE WAY (which is simple if you consider the points I made in the first paragraph).

[ghg]

Keep the player invincible and uneffected by explosives until they try to move/fire/throw nades/etc.