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Offline Leo

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BattlEye something must change
« on: June 22, 2007, 03:48:22 am »
Since today I have disabled BE in my servers, reason ? 80% of the players are getting kicked for not having the update. I have an idea, server admins must have the ability to make BE "required" or "not required" from server.ini The players that don't run the program get a tag, like [NO-BE] in front of their names, so we know who are using the anti-cheat and who don't. Until then I will keep BE disabled for my servers, we have an advanced system where players can always call an admin if a hacker appears so there is no problem there. I do however have a problem running 3 empty servers cause of BE.

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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2007, 04:40:13 am »
24 hour ban from my fave 2 servers because of that damn thing...
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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2007, 05:03:21 am »
Didnt know how to... im completely illiterate when it comes to computers.  I tried a couple times and thought i did it until i got kicked this morning.
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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #3 on: June 22, 2007, 06:48:36 am »
Since today I have disabled BE in my servers, reason ? 80% of the players are getting kicked for not having the update. I have an idea, server admins must have the ability to make BE "required" or "not required" from server.ini The players that don't run the program get a tag, like [NO-BE] in front of their names, so we know who are using the anti-cheat and who don't. Until then I will keep BE disabled for my servers, we have an advanced system where players can always call an admin if a hacker appears so there is no problem there. I do however have a problem running 3 empty servers cause of BE.

While I agree, I'm also willing to hang in there until the problems are resolved.  I'll probably disable it in my servers until the next update, see if it works then, and so on until it works.  I'm guessing I'll end up doing that until 1.4.2

edit: a lot of the people who get kicked have come to me and said that they did update
« Last Edit: June 22, 2007, 06:59:40 am by FliesLikeABrick »

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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #4 on: June 22, 2007, 07:52:42 am »
@FLAB: Almost all who came here said so. In the end they did some stupid mistake and resolved it.

@Leo: We will not add such a feature. I already had something similar with Warsow in the past (due to Linux not supported yet) and it rendered BE entirely useless. So this is not an option, either everyone or no one has to have BE enabled.

I agree, the situation is not optimal, but it will get better from time to time especially with the new installer from chrisgbk that is now downloaded via Soldat's updater. When 1.4.2 is released and everyone updates, these problems will be history.
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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #5 on: June 22, 2007, 08:19:05 am »
Yeah $able, until some BE update is released after 1.4.2 and we still don't have a working auto-update ...

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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2007, 08:50:16 am »
A first BE update has already been released and it worked fine.

How often did I say that the auto-update in the new version works fine now? :-X
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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2007, 08:51:41 am »
A first BE update has already been released and it worked fine.

How often did I say that the auto-update in the new version works fine now? :-X

Oh I know you haven't said that, but is it something that is fixed by a BE update or a Soldat client update?

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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2007, 09:01:56 am »
I must have missed you then...

Oh and is that a rhetorical question or do you really want it to be answered?
In case of the latter, Soldat client has nothing to do with it, that's why it now works without an updated Soldat.exe even.
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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2007, 02:56:27 pm »
24 hour ban from my fave 2 servers because of that damn thing...
Thats why you download it when it tells you to.

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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #10 on: June 24, 2007, 10:20:19 pm »
$able, can you make BattlEye more hacker-proof? Lately, I have been seeing a boatload of hackers in servers that are usually hacker-proof, especially u13. I agree that disabling BattlEye is not an option because that is a recipe for destruction.


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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #11 on: June 24, 2007, 10:29:41 pm »
Shadow, these updates are addressing problems in BE, it is not intended to be a fully-functional system yet

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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2007, 06:38:18 am »
ATTENTION!
Battleeye protection is disabled in Leo's servers.
All hackers go there. It's your new home.

and what makes you think this kind of spammy post is tolerated on these forums?  deleted and warned.

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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2007, 06:59:25 am »
I'd say keep BE enabled, people who are too lazy or too dumb to download the new client do not deserve playing Soldat ;Q
I've set the BE Bantime to 1 minute, that's fine and people will this way learn to download the thing and still be able to play on their favourite server without waiting for the 24 hours to pass by.
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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2007, 07:03:47 am »
We follow the servers through irc 24/7. I will enable BE when 1.4.2 is out and everyone gets the update. I am not gonna punish 70% of players due to the fact that they can't update BE.

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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2007, 07:04:45 am »
Just because people dont know much about computers doesnt mean their dumb... im dumb for alot of other unrelated things.
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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2007, 07:05:50 am »
We follow the servers through irc 24/7. I will enable BE when 1.4.2 is out and everyone gets the update. I am not gonna punish 70% of players due to the fact that they can't update BE.

but they /can/ update ;)

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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2007, 07:07:13 am »
We follow the servers through irc 24/7. I will enable BE when 1.4.2 is out and everyone gets the update. I am not gonna punish 70% of players due to the fact that they can't update BE.

but they /can/ update ;)

Not if their limited knowledge of computers prevents them from being able to.
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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2007, 07:07:32 am »
70% of players? lol, I see one person get booted per hour.

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Re: BattlEye something must change
« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2007, 07:08:04 am »
yeah, seems like most people got it :-X
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