Author Topic: BattlEye something must change (Read 5170 times)

Leo · « **on:** June 22, 2007, 03:48:22 am »

Since today I have disabled BE in my servers, reason ? 80% of the players are getting kicked for not having the update. I have an idea, server admins must have the ability to make BE "required" or "not required" from server.ini The players that don't run the program get a tag, like [NO-BE] in front of their names, so we know who are using the anti-cheat and who don't. Until then I will keep BE disabled for my servers, we have an advanced system where players can always call an admin if a hacker appears so there is no problem there. I do however have a problem running 3 empty servers cause of BE.

SirJamesaford · « **Reply #1 on:** June 22, 2007, 04:40:13 am »

24 hour ban from my fave 2 servers because of that damn thing...

SirJamesaford · « **Reply #2 on:** June 22, 2007, 05:03:21 am »

Didnt know how to... im completely illiterate when it comes to computers. I tried a couple times and thought i did it until i got kicked this morning.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #3 on:** June 22, 2007, 06:48:36 am »

Quote from: Leo on June 22, 2007, 03:48:22 am

Since today I have disabled BE in my servers, reason ? 80% of the players are getting kicked for not having the update. I have an idea, server admins must have the ability to make BE "required" or "not required" from server.ini The players that don't run the program get a tag, like [NO-BE] in front of their names, so we know who are using the anti-cheat and who don't. Until then I will keep BE disabled for my servers, we have an advanced system where players can always call an admin if a hacker appears so there is no problem there. I do however have a problem running 3 empty servers cause of BE.

While I agree, I'm also willing to hang in there until the problems are resolved. I'll probably disable it in my servers until the next update, see if it works then, and so on until it works. I'm guessing I'll end up doing that until 1.4.2

edit: a lot of the people who get kicked have come to me and said that they did update

$able · « **Reply #4 on:** June 22, 2007, 07:52:42 am »

@FLAB: Almost all who came here said so. In the end they did some stupid mistake and resolved it.

@Leo: We will not add such a feature. I already had something similar with Warsow in the past (due to Linux not supported yet) and it rendered BE entirely useless. So this is not an option, either everyone or no one has to have BE enabled.

I agree, the situation is not optimal, but it will get better from time to time especially with the new installer from chrisgbk that is now downloaded via Soldat's updater. When 1.4.2 is released and everyone updates, these problems will be history.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #5 on:** June 22, 2007, 08:19:05 am »

Yeah $able, until some BE update is released after 1.4.2 and we still don't have a working auto-update ...

$able · « **Reply #6 on:** June 22, 2007, 08:50:16 am »

A first BE update has already been released and it worked fine.

How often did I say that the auto-update in the new version works fine now?

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #7 on:** June 22, 2007, 08:51:41 am »

Quote from: $able on June 22, 2007, 08:50:16 am

A first BE update has already been released and it worked fine.

How often did I say that the auto-update in the new version works fine now?

Oh I know you haven't said that, but is it something that is fixed by a BE update or a Soldat client update?

$able · « **Reply #8 on:** June 22, 2007, 09:01:56 am »

I must have missed you then...

Oh and is that a rhetorical question or do you really want it to be answered?
In case of the latter, Soldat client has nothing to do with it, that's why it now works without an updated Soldat.exe even.

Xxypher · « **Reply #9 on:** June 22, 2007, 02:56:27 pm »

Quote from: SirJamesaford on June 22, 2007, 04:40:13 am

24 hour ban from my fave 2 servers because of that damn thing...

Thats why you download it when it tells you to.

Shadow G-Unit · « **Reply #10 on:** June 24, 2007, 10:20:19 pm »

$able, can you make BattlEye more hacker-proof? Lately, I have been seeing a boatload of hackers in servers that are usually hacker-proof, especially u13. I agree that disabling BattlEye is not an option because that is a recipe for destruction.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #11 on:** June 24, 2007, 10:29:41 pm »

Shadow, these updates are addressing problems in BE, it is not intended to be a fully-functional system yet

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #12 on:** June 25, 2007, 06:38:18 am »

Quote from: Predator0520 on June 25, 2007, 06:36:42 am

ATTENTION!
Battleeye protection is disabled in Leo's servers.
All hackers go there. It's your new home.

and what makes you think this kind of spammy post is tolerated on these forums? deleted and warned.

Avarax · « **Reply #13 on:** June 25, 2007, 06:59:25 am »

I'd say keep BE enabled, people who are too lazy or too dumb to download the new client do not deserve playing Soldat ;Q
I've set the BE Bantime to 1 minute, that's fine and people will this way learn to download the thing and still be able to play on their favourite server without waiting for the 24 hours to pass by.

Leo · « **Reply #14 on:** June 25, 2007, 07:03:47 am »

We follow the servers through irc 24/7. I will enable BE when 1.4.2 is out and everyone gets the update. I am not gonna punish 70% of players due to the fact that they can't update BE.

SirJamesaford · « **Reply #15 on:** June 25, 2007, 07:04:45 am »

Just because people dont know much about computers doesnt mean their dumb... im dumb for alot of other unrelated things.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #16 on:** June 25, 2007, 07:05:50 am »

Quote from: Leo on June 25, 2007, 07:03:47 am

We follow the servers through irc 24/7. I will enable BE when 1.4.2 is out and everyone gets the update. I am not gonna punish 70% of players due to the fact that they can't update BE.

but they /can/ update

SirJamesaford · « **Reply #17 on:** June 25, 2007, 07:07:13 am »

Quote from: FliesLikeABrick on June 25, 2007, 07:05:50 am

Quote from: Leo on June 25, 2007, 07:03:47 am
We follow the servers through irc 24/7. I will enable BE when 1.4.2 is out and everyone gets the update. I am not gonna punish 70% of players due to the fact that they can't update BE.

but they /can/ update

Not if their limited knowledge of computers prevents them from being able to.

EnEsCe · « **Reply #18 on:** June 25, 2007, 07:07:32 am »

70% of players? lol, I see one person get booted per hour.

Avarax · « **Reply #19 on:** June 25, 2007, 07:08:04 am »

yeah, seems like most people got it

Leo · « **Reply #20 on:** June 25, 2007, 07:10:51 am »

Quote from: EnEsCe on June 25, 2007, 07:07:32 am

70% of players? lol, I see one person get booted per hour.

I disabled it 3 days ago, until then most of the players were kicked. Maybe your players have higher IQ

Shadow G-Unit · « **Reply #21 on:** June 25, 2007, 08:08:25 am »

K, thanks FLAB. Just saying just like improve it "a bit" when 1.4.2. comes out. Is it really that hard to download the update?!? (sarcasm)

$able · « **Reply #22 on:** June 25, 2007, 11:27:23 am »

Shadow G-Unit, yes, more updates with better detection will be released soon. First need to make sure the system itself works fine.

Leo, from what I see MOST players have updated BE now. The kicks are getting rarer and rarer.

w00titsme · « **Reply #23 on:** June 25, 2007, 11:50:59 am »

Still it's rather frustrating watching atleast fourteen people come in trenchwars everyday, scream "What's Happening To Me!!!!" and then get kicked for battleye violation.

$able · « **Reply #24 on:** June 25, 2007, 11:55:06 am »

14 per day isnt very much I think.

Leo · « **Reply #25 on:** June 25, 2007, 12:03:49 pm »

Let me get it straight here. Every time that BE main server gets new updates against new hacks the clients must get an update too ?

SirJamesaford · « **Reply #26 on:** June 25, 2007, 12:07:13 pm »

Is that a hint of frustration in your eyes Leo?? If so its warrented.

$able · « **Reply #27 on:** June 25, 2007, 12:39:06 pm »

Leo, depends on what is updated. Might be serverside only as well.

But how does that matter anyway?

-Major- · « **Reply #28 on:** June 25, 2007, 02:39:46 pm »

well I guess prople only downloads the file and never unzips it :/. or they unzips it to wrong folder. just write an guide on the download page. or do a whole atomatic updater who acctually saves the file it downloads and unzips it automaticly this would requier soldat to be installed.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #29 on:** June 25, 2007, 03:00:42 pm »

The automatic update will work in the future, it was just a problem so far. These are the kinds of problems that these updates are going to fix.

$able · « **Reply #30 on:** June 25, 2007, 04:32:47 pm »

Anyone realized that the updater window is not from BE? Its the Soldat updater tool but not BE.
BE will update silently while playing on a server.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #31 on:** June 25, 2007, 04:35:48 pm »

While some people may understand that, others just assume it is all Soldat and don't know any better

CheeSeMan. · « **Reply #32 on:** June 26, 2007, 09:12:38 am »

When your playing a gather and three players get a violation :/ annoying hopeful after a few kicks they understand lol. I think the problem is that when that window pops up your allowed to click "later"

fireblade212 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 26, 2007, 09:32:09 am »

i dont get booted, but i get it saying i need to update it, even after i manually downloaded it

-Major- · « **Reply #34 on:** June 26, 2007, 10:58:09 am »

where did you people extrace the files in the manually downloaded file?

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #35 on:** June 26, 2007, 11:06:45 am »

Go to the BattlEye update thread in the News forum, and use ChrisGBK's automated updater in the first post. If you don't know how to do it manually, use that for sure.

Temp3st · « **Reply #36 on:** June 26, 2007, 11:15:26 am »

I don't know why everybody hates it so much. I also had the update problem but then i DLed the auto-install update from http://enesce.com/?page=downloads&f=30 and then my prbolems were sorted!

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #37 on:** June 26, 2007, 11:17:58 am »

Yeah, that's exactly the download I'm talking about

Wormdundee · « **Reply #38 on:** June 26, 2007, 08:14:02 pm »

Everybody will just have to be patient until the auto-updating is working perfectly correctly, then there should be no problem. You have to remember this is the initial implementation of a huge new feature, its obviously going to have some problems at the very beginning.

FliesLikeABrick · « **Reply #39 on:** June 26, 2007, 08:18:27 pm »

Quote from: Wormdundee on June 26, 2007, 08:14:02 pm

Everybody will just have to be patient until the auto-updating is working perfectly correctly, then there should be no problem. You have to remember this is the initial implementation of a huge new feature, its obviously going to have some problems at the very beginning.

1.4.2 will be out soon, and one of its main purposes is to make sure everyone has a functioning auto-update.

Wormdundee · « **Reply #40 on:** June 26, 2007, 10:21:00 pm »

Yes, thats what I was talking about, just not so specifically.

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Author Topic: BattlEye something must change (Read 5170 times)