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Offline Svirin Kerath

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Re: Do you live on the (US) west coast? Yay for death!
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2006, 02:10:26 am »
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=awuAN4B9yYSs&refer=

http://www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1736022,00050001.htm

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Would you be dumb enough to move to British Columbia?  :P

This is nothing to be overtly concerned about. North Korea is just trying to push itself as a major world force, and power is the way to do that. Kim Jong may seem nuts enough to fire at a country, but I don't think he's that stupid as the country would be leveled flat by other nations if a strike were attempted. He just wants attention. I can't blame him -- he's always trumpeting his country's nuclear power, but the US ignores him for Middle East invasions and whatnot. :)

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« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2006, 02:26:40 am »
yeah, the irony is that the us attacked sadam on the presumption he had WMDs, when he didn't, meanwhile NK's got nukes, waving them around, saying 'what about me?!?!'
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« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2006, 02:30:32 am »
Yeah, this pretty much falsifies the war on terrorism.
An actualy threat comes around and the ol' government is just like "Huh?  Theres no oil there for us to benefit from, so lets ignore them."
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« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2006, 02:41:51 am »
Yeah, this pretty much falsifies the war on terrorism.
An actualy threat comes around and the ol' government is just like "Huh?  Theres no oil there for us to benefit from, so lets ignore them."

Pretty much. If it were a humanitarian effort as the Iraq invasion and liberation is painted to be, then what about Cuba, a dictatorship just a few miles from the shores of the US?

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« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2006, 03:02:04 am »
yeah, the irony is that the us attacked sadam on the presumption he had WMDs, when he didn't, meanwhile NK's got nukes, waving them around, saying 'what about me?!?!'

Well, Kim is a lunatic who thinks he's a god.  Do you really think he'll just let us slide in and do what we want?

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« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2006, 03:04:43 am »
Mr. Domino: pff. cuba's old news i guess. after several attempts to invade through various means, the US just gave up on it.

Vijchti:well he's just seeing how far he can push without resulting in MAD, in order to secure more power.

which is pretty insane, yes.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2006, 03:21:32 am »
yeah, the irony is that the us attacked sadam on the presumption he had WMDs, when he didn't, meanwhile NK's got nukes, waving them around, saying 'what about me?!?!'
It's not ironic at all. The US knows that if they invade North Korea, they'll use their nukes.

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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2006, 03:30:45 am »
frogboy: what i meant was, iraq got all the attention when it had nothing, while north korea was practically ignored until recently, when they overtley declared that they had nukes for a long time now.
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2006, 03:34:17 am »
It's not ironic at all. The US knows that if they invade North Korea, they'll use their nukes.

Except that Cheney and others say that North Korea doesn't actually have nuclear strike capability. All that's followed are test runs for missile launches -- but not nuclear missiles. North Korea for all that's known may not even have the technology to shrink the nuclear bomb to fit inside a warhead. All that's confirmed is that they have been working on plutonium production and whatever Kim Jong announces to the public. The bigger concern is an attack triggering North Korea retaliation, laying waste to South Korea, Japan, and China.

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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2006, 05:01:48 am »
I bet America has a missle aimed at every country in the world anyway, and I heard America was gonna use a nuclear weapon to destroy Iraqs nuclear weapons, WTF?
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« Reply #11 on: July 05, 2006, 05:14:35 am »
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« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2006, 08:12:11 am »
North Korea would have to be very retarded to attack any of the powerhouse nations.

North Korea knows they would be defeated.
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« Reply #13 on: July 05, 2006, 11:29:08 am »
My GEOGRAPHY teacher thinks that China is going to nuke everyone else in the world, but America first. She instructed us not to buy Christmas lights that were made in China. FUEL THE WAR MACHINE

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« Reply #14 on: July 05, 2006, 11:55:35 am »
China can do some major damage but North Korea just doesn't have the resources or allies to pull off anything big.

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« Reply #15 on: July 05, 2006, 12:12:30 pm »
remember, nuclear strike capability is not a necessity for a nuclear attack... people worry about terrorists simply having nukes, not being able to launch them (russia can't even launch its own nukes).

NK is obviously just trying to get attention and piss people off because it can, but; it really has nothing to lose. it has a dying economy, a lot of people are starving, it's pretty much fallen apart. kim doesn't care about his people; he'll high-tail it as soon as he's in danger.

anyway, the missiles are just for show. if you really wanna use nukes, all you need are cargo containers. there's only a 20% chance they'll be checked. you can just send them to major west-coast ports and let them do the exploding personal-like. NK supposedly has 3-6 nukes, so this would be more practical.

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« Reply #16 on: July 05, 2006, 01:16:25 pm »
Obviously, Kim's trying to pull a bluff. That's part of the reason we won WWII.

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« Reply #17 on: July 05, 2006, 01:45:13 pm »
actually, the atom bombs weren't as decisive as fire bombing, and fire bombing was easier to pull off too. more people were killed in tokyo by fire bombing than either city hit by an atom bomb. japan was just slated to give in no matter what, and hirohito finally recognized that. the decision to give in was over an invasion of japan, and devistation by general bombing. the bluff that the US had more atom bombs wasn't taken into account as much as would be idealistically appreciated. in context of the time, the atom bomb was justified, but historically it really wasn't.

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Re: Do you live on the (US) west coast? Yay for death!
« Reply #18 on: July 05, 2006, 02:59:26 pm »
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« Reply #19 on: July 05, 2006, 04:29:58 pm »
World War IV. Sticks and stones.
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