m79

[SirJamesaford]

I have no problem what so ever killing an m79er...  I didnt think any one did really lol

[Gortaak]

lolololol sounds like someone got owned by an m79.

Ok, dont take it out on the gun when you cant kill a noob with an m79 that is spawn killing you. Its not that hard really. And you have a knife. So, heres what you do. when you spawn, hit jump then prone real fast. OMG THERE HE MISSED, press Q. move your cross hair to this "noob", press and hold the F key. OMG LOOK HE DIED. OMG NERF KNIFE IT KILLED SOMEONE!

People are always going to hate this gun, or the barrett, cause they get killed by it. Infact, people will hate any gun that kills them faster than they can. To the OP. Give me your msn or something, I want to 1v1 you for a few rounds. One of them is going to be the m79.  And then you will see some of the best m79 shots you will probally see. And after that, you will call me a noob, so Ill have to own you with the rest of the guns.

People, give it up, the m79 isnt going anywhere. It will always be one shot, one kill.

As for the boosting. Its easy to stop, you know when someone is going to do it, because it takes a second to set up a good boost. Your bad for not killing them. You would hate to play me in clan wars, where I boost all over a few maps. People boost for fast easy caps, because people like you get pissed and cry about it, instead of actually following them, or trying to kill them. Its not our fault you suck.

YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!

edit: and sure I will turn this into a flamefest because people in soldat are whiney girls

[a-4-year-old]

The whole point of boosting is so that people can't catch you. If you don't have an m79 you can't catch them, so don't try to pretend people are "whining"

And the knife sucks ass these days.

[Coolio]

Stop ****** complaining about something MM isnt going to change. THere have been so many threads on the M79. Its useless complaining. You know what they say if you can't beat em' you rather might as well join them. So if you can't beat the people with M79's you rather might as well get an M79 and kick there asses.

Here are the M79 forums:
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=9154.0
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=14666.0
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=14921.0
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=6488.420
http://forums.soldat.pl/index.php?topic=13075.0

[a-4-year-old]

Stop ****** complaining about something MM isnt going to change. THere have been so many threads on the M79. Its useless complaining. You know what they say if you can't beat em' you rather might as well join them. So if you can't beat the people with M79's you rather might as well get an M79 and kick there asses.

Jee Thanks, Yeah, you could use an old saying "if you can't beat them join them" or you could fix an obvious flaw in the weapon balance, you sound like the same idiots who all said "don't change the barret im leeet"

[Gortaak]

The whole point of boosting is so that people can't catch you. If you don't have an m79 you can't catch them, so don't try to pretend people are "whining"

And the knife sucks ass these days.

What are you talking about? one ruger shot, one spas shot, 3 or 4 ak shots, 1 deagle shot and a booster is toast. And when one boosts, you KNOW where they are going, head them off at the pass. And yes people boost so it makes them HARDER to hit, but you can catch them.  And normal m79 boosting is slow. To make the good ones, where its very hard to hit someone, you have to use nades, which hurts real bad, so the pay off is worth it. With the execption of Viet, its next to impossible to do a fast boost without a nade.
Not to mention hardly anyone boosts now a days as it is. And if they do, its usually only on a map or 2.
Me on the other hand, I boost like a whore. Its fun. I dont do it to piss people off, I do it because I enjoy it. And its a bit harder than you think, to get good boosts, thats why its not done much. Boosting in my opinion is not enough of a problem to even whine about. Let alone nerf more than it is.

And how does the knife suck? Its awesome still.

[a-4-year-old]

The whole point of boosting is so that people can't catch you. If you don't have an m79 you can't catch them, so don't try to pretend people are "whining"

And the knife sucks ass these days.

What are you talking about? one ruger shot, one spas shot, 3 or 4 ak shots, 1 deagle shot and a booster is toast. And when one boosts, you KNOW where they are going, head them off at the pass. And yes people boost so it makes them HARDER to hit, but you can catch them.  And normal m79 boosting is slow. To make the good ones, where its very hard to hit someone, you have to use nades, which hurts real bad, so the pay off is worth it. With the execption of Viet, its next to impossible to do a fast boost without a nade.
Not to mention hardly anyone boosts now a days as it is. And if they do, its usually only on a map or 2.
Me on the other hand, I boost like a *****. Its fun. I dont do it to piss people off, I do it because I enjoy it. And its a bit harder than you think, to get good boosts, thats why its not done much. Boosting in my opinion is not enough of a problem to even whine about. Let alone nerf more than it is.

And how does the knife suck? Its awesome still.

You have to chase them, ruger has 3 movement acc, it doesn't work out. They are leaving really quickly, spaz doesn't work, other then actually having to hit them those options are pretty much out. As for 3-4 ak shots? Bullshit. I've counted 11 plus hits on boogieman. Grenades don't hurt that bad and a boost happens quickly, a lot quicker then the amount of time it takes to whip out a knife and throw it at full power. Try 1.2.1 and you will know what a real balance looks like.

[Blazing Tiger]

Try 1.2.1 and you will know what a real balance looks like.

I agree wholeheartedly. If it were up to me, I'd scrap the balancing we've been trying from 1.3 on and work with what we had on 1.2.1 

[Gortaak]

The whole point of boosting is so that people can't catch you. If you don't have an m79 you can't catch them, so don't try to pretend people are "whining"

And the knife sucks ass these days.

What are you talking about? one ruger shot, one spas shot, 3 or 4 ak shots, 1 deagle shot and a booster is toast. And when one boosts, you KNOW where they are going, head them off at the pass. And yes people boost so it makes them HARDER to hit, but you can catch them. And normal m79 boosting is slow. To make the good ones, where its very hard to hit someone, you have to use nades, which hurts real bad, so the pay off is worth it. With the execption of Viet, its next to impossible to do a fast boost without a nade.
Not to mention hardly anyone boosts now a days as it is. And if they do, its usually only on a map or 2.
Me on the other hand, I boost like a *****. Its fun. I dont do it to piss people off, I do it because I enjoy it. And its a bit harder than you think, to get good boosts, thats why its not done much. Boosting in my opinion is not enough of a problem to even whine about. Let alone nerf more than it is.

And how does the knife suck? Its awesome still.

You have to chase them, ruger has 3 movement acc, it doesn't work out. They are leaving really quickly, spaz doesn't work, other then actually having to hit them those options are pretty much out. As for 3-4 ak shots? Bull****. I've counted 11 plus hits on boogieman. Grenades don't hurt that bad and a boost happens quickly, a lot quicker then the amount of time it takes to whip out a knife and throw it at full power. Try 1.2.1 and you will know what a real balance looks like.

Ok for one, its easy, Ill show you some day, you dont have to chase far, hell, you can even blind shot them, as for the most part they are moving in the say direction and easy to predict. Ruger is long range. Easy.
With the spas, thats dependant on where you are, and where they are boosting.
As for shooting a boogie man. Since when do boogie men m79 boost... AFTER SOMEONE BOOSTS they are weak, 3-4 ak shots, will kill a weak booster. As it really only takes about 7 head shots, 9 body shots and about 11 foot shots at full hp to kill someone.

And im not talking about nade boosting, im talking about m79 boosting, and to get a fast m79 boost, you have to toss a nade down, and shoot it with an m79, which takes a second to set up, in which time the booster is a sitting duck. And when you nade + m79 boost, it hurts. You obviously havent tried it. And with out nades, a m79 booster is EASY to kill. 1, He moves slow as hell. 2. Hes weak. If you cant hit someone that is boosting with out nades, you sir, suck. A fast boost is flag to flag on viet in approx 5 seconds one way, 10 second round trip. THAT makes you hard to hit. But it is also EXTREMELY damaging and hard to pull off.
Go around boosting for a while. Or this weekend, Ill take you to my server, and show you, that boosting isnt as easy as you think. And the people that are doing it fast, practice it quite a bit. Message me on the forums and ill give you my msn and server info.

Also, I started playing in the very start of 1.2.1. And ill tell you, the m79 was stronger, had less self damage, and everything was wicked powerfull. Longer range too I belive. Your 1.2.1 reference is stupid, as it proves nothing. It will never go back to 1.2.1. Or anything similar. 1.2.1 was nothign but overpowered everything. Autos with no self bink. A barrett that was really sick. Plenty of other things. I also have 1.2.1 on my computer so I can compare when I get home from work.
Dont get me wrong, 1.2.1 was fun as hell. But I enjoy 1.4 more.

[Coolio]

Stop ****** complaining about something MM isnt going to change. THere have been so many threads on the M79. Its useless complaining. You know what they say if you can't beat em' you rather might as well join them. So if you can't beat the people with M79's you rather might as well get an M79 and kick there asses.

Jee Thanks, Yeah, you could use an old saying "if you can't beat them join them" or you could fix an obvious flaw in the weapon balance, you sound like the same idiots who all said "don't change the barret im leeet"

Jee if its so ****** obvious and simple why wont MM change it? Huh? DO know how many people complain about it? Its probably always gonna be a 1 hit 1 K.O. weapon. MM's not gonna change the fact that its a 1 hit 1 K.O. weapon. You seem like one of those people who say its a simple little thing that can be fixed but never does anything about it. You really are a 4 year old.

[Captain Ben]

dammit i didn't want it to come to this area...

ok... first of all, SHUT THE FUCK UP GORTAAK
i couldn't care less if you could own me or not so stop glorifying yourself and just shut it. mmmkay? when did i say i want to do a little 1 on 1 action [even though i'd win ] with you? go feed your massive ego somewhere else.

i really don't care when 1 or 2 people use the m79 [despite it being massively overpowered] because that can be fun... its just when forty of the motherfuckers in a server decide to use it and ruin the game. there are no leet or skilled shots, just lucky shots, not to mention the lag that comes with the m79 shots. half the time i juust explode for no reason. no matter how good you play, if there are multiple m79ers you're pretty screwed.
and then you have the deadbeats who camp flags with them and block tunnels. the m79 is making this game go to shit

i suppose i could stop playing in publics but i couldn't be bothered to invest the time into a clan or playing gathers, like the other 99% of people who play soldat.

[Gortaak]

when did i say i want to do a little 1 on 1 action [even though i'd win ] with you?

Show me.


None of these replys were about "feeding my massive ego" either. They were defending the m79, from noobs like you that think its a noob gun, and "there are no 'leet' shots, only lucky ones". Im so sick of all you little cry babys whining about getting owned by the m79. Go to a different server. Get out of pubs. OR. heres a thought. Use it. Learn it. learn its weakness. Once you use the gun, you can get a feel for it. you can understand what most of them do. The limitations, then you can defeat it with no problems.

Here is a tip. Dont back flip or fly high when you are going against an m79er. They know you will do that, instead, slide. run at them, hit prone and jets, then hit prone again, and you will do a baseball looking slide under the shot, then you will kill them.
Get inventive. Dont cry about it. Learn to defeat it.
A server full of m79 majors is cannon fodder for a good player that can avoid the shots. I love when a server is full of m79ers, because 90% of them are so bad with it, they are useless. i would rather play with 10 m79ers than 10 autos, autos are harder to kill in groups than m79ers.

[Sexcells]

Ok um first of all if its making you so angry quit? not hard but i know you most likely wont do that so next option is to just get over it. Not to hard and YES most noobs use the m79 when they first start but its got some very nice useful stuff like boosting. Probably the easiest way to cap fast in a game is with the m79. m79 does take skill if your not like 2 inchs away or spawning. Just watch some vids in the video section like "bladez" hes got some hot m79 shots on their.

AND toward Gortaak and you 1vs1ing, he'd rock you. Hurray?

[Mastadi]

Minimi, Barret, Minigun, Ruger and Styer. All these weapons shouldn't have much problems killing an m79'er if you know how to use them. You just need to know how to use them.

[Horang]

when did i say i want to do a little 1 on 1 action [even though i'd win ] with you?

Here is a tip. Dont back flip or fly high when you are going against an m79er. They know you will do that, instead, slide. run at them, hit prone and jets, then hit prone again, and you will do a baseball looking slide under the shot, then you will kill them.
Get inventive. Dont cry about it. Learn to defeat it.

Oooooor while you're flying around like a fuckin faggot, they'll just explode you anyway because it's not hard to..? It's the dumbest thing when you try to give tactics, because it's simply unrealistic for too many reasons.

[SDFilm]

when did i say i want to do a little 1 on 1 action [even though i'd win ] with you?

Here is a tip. Dont back flip or fly high when you are going against an m79er. They know you will do that, instead, slide. run at them, hit prone and jets, then hit prone again, and you will do a baseball looking slide under the shot, then you will kill them.
Get inventive. Dont cry about it. Learn to defeat it.

Oooooor while you're flying around like a ****in ***got, they'll just explode you anyway because it's not hard to..? It's the dumbest thing when you try to give tactics, because it's simply unrealistic for too many reasons.

Although some 'dodge' techniques can sometimes be used, I really agree with Horang there.

 OR. heres a thought. Use it. Learn it. learn its weakness.

It's first weapon I learned to use, and I soon quit because it feels so cheap.

A server full of m79 majors is cannon fodder for a good player that can avoid the shots. I love when a server is full of m79ers, because 90% of them are so bad with it, they are useless. i would rather play with 10 m79ers than 10 autos, autos are harder to kill in groups than m79ers.

Depends on the map really. It's funny switching to a map like Shau or some other open-space map and see them squirm, thinking wether or not to resort to leaving the sanctuary of their precious M79. Eventually starting to use the same weapon that the non-M79er is using, then failing at it.

[a-4-year-old]

Stop ****** complaining about something MM isnt going to change. THere have been so many threads on the M79. Its useless complaining. You know what they say if you can't beat em' you rather might as well join them. So if you can't beat the people with M79's you rather might as well get an M79 and kick there asses.

Jee Thanks, Yeah, you could use an old saying "if you can't beat them join them" or you could fix an obvious flaw in the weapon balance, you sound like the same idiots who all said "don't change the barret im leeet"

Jee if its so ****** obvious and simple why wont MM change it? Huh? DO know how many people complain about it? Its probably always gonna be a 1 hit 1 K.O. weapon. MM's not gonna change the fact that its a 1 hit 1 K.O. weapon. You seem like one of those people who say its a simple little thing that can be fixed but never does anything about it. You really are a 4 year old.

You are a fool. I know it's a 1 hit kill, I know it will be a 1 hit kill, I don't want to change it to make it any less of a one hit kill. I want the other guns to suck a little less so that the game might be more balanced. And you are right, I am not doing anything about it BECAUSE I AM NOT A ****ING BETA TESTER AND I CAN'T MAKE THE DECISION IT IS NOT UP TO ME.

Here is a tip. Dont back flip or fly high when you are going against an m79er. They know you will do that, instead, slide. run at them, hit prone and jets, then hit prone again, and you will do a baseball looking slide under the shot, then you will kill them.
Get inventive. Dont cry about it. Learn to defeat it.
A server full of m79 majors is cannon fodder for a good player that can avoid the shots. I love when a server is full of m79ers, because 90% of them are so bad with it, they are useless. i would rather play with 10 m79ers than 10 autos, autos are harder to kill in groups than m79ers.

You could avoid 1, maybe 2 if you have some distance, you don't have a shot at 3 decent players, Since everything is over binked and underpowered you are going to have a tough time killing both of them, just because it takes a long time.

Every post you have just talks about how we suck and we aren't good enough and we are just whining because we lack skills, face reality. m79 is overpowered because all the other guns suck wang. And you don't remember a damn thing about 1.2.1, you would have totally different thoughts if you did.

[Captain Ben]

when did i say i want to do a little 1 on 1 action [even though i'd win ] with you?

Show me.

To the OP. Give me your msn or something, I want to 1v1 you for a few rounds. One of them is going to be the m79. And then you will see some of the best m79 shots you will probally see. And after that, you will call me a noob, so Ill have to own you with the rest of the guns.

get over yourself asswipe..of course you'd want to use the m79 because it is the easiest most overpowered gun you could use and even if i could be bothered with 1 on 1-ing some wangchung that is massively arrogant, why would you use anything else? i thought you were defending the m79 fool... you'd just want other weapons as a back up because i'd whoop yo ass

None of these replys were about "feeding my massive ego" either. They were defending the m79, from noobs like you that think its a noob gun, and "there are no 'leet' shots, only lucky ones". Im so sick of all you little cry babys whining about getting owned by the m79. Go to a different server. Get out of pubs. OR. heres a thought. Use it. Learn it. learn its weakness. Once you use the gun, you can get a feel for it. you can understand what most of them do. The limitations, then you can defeat it with no problems.

Here is a tip. Dont back flip or fly high when you are going against an m79er. They know you will do that, instead, slide. run at them, hit prone and jets, then hit prone again, and you will do a baseball looking slide under the shot, then you will kill them.
Get inventive. Dont cry about it. Learn to defeat it.
A server full of m79 majors is cannon fodder for a good player that can avoid the shots. I love when a server is full of m79ers, because 90% of them are so bad with it, they are useless. i would rather play with 10 m79ers than 10 autos, autos are harder to kill in groups than m79ers.

lolol someones getting owned by autos

there is no such thing as a useless person with the m79
your tactics are **** useless because with the m79 it doesn't matter... unless you're like 2 screens away the m79 will hit you because IT IS MASSIVELY OVERPOWERED
the best thing to do is keep your distance but that never works because all they do is rush and shoot

its a **** weapon that hans't changed since 1.2.1 [when every weapon was overpowered]

[Will]

I absolutely hate it when some new guy walks in here and starts posting this egoistic crap. All of you who say it is really easy to beat an m79 just play against me. I'm not trying to be egoistic or anything because I really don't play soldat very well. But everyone can beat anyone with m79.

All of you new, avatarless dudes chill and take the facts straight.

As I've said before, I think that the m79 is quite balanced but it is the massive onslaught of m79 that overcomes any hardened  soldat veteran. I played soldat online from version 1.2.1 or something a little before si I know what I'm talking abut.

I say, give the m79 a delay. Similiar to the barret's delay, it would serve quite well to balance everyything out. I'd add just a slightly increased damage for increased splash effect of the grenade to compensate for that...

[ChromedGun]

Or just fucking remove the damn thing. Wait, some servers already do. Nice.