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Should Espionage be the next new play mode?

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Offline Protoman

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Espionage mode
« on: July 05, 2007, 01:45:12 pm »
This is a mode of play in Nightfire. It's not a very popular mode, but i have a feeling it might be a nice alternative in Soldat.

Picture a large map with the Alpha and Bravo flags at opposite ends. Instead of capturing each other's flags, you try to capture the yellow flag in a random part of this massive map, then bring it back without getting killed. It would require a few people and good scouting skills to excell in this mode.

Most of the CtF maps could probebly be used (the larger ones, anyway), but a few new Epg maps should be made.
« Last Edit: July 07, 2007, 10:26:57 am by Protoman »

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #1 on: July 05, 2007, 03:39:59 pm »
Very interesting!

I'd like to play this!

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #2 on: July 05, 2007, 04:03:52 pm »
wow this actually sounds convincing.

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #3 on: July 05, 2007, 04:07:37 pm »
Well, i think that there should be few fixed weapon spawns, set in mapmaker. But besides that, great idea!

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #4 on: July 05, 2007, 04:36:32 pm »
Sounds really funny and tactical
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #5 on: July 05, 2007, 05:03:34 pm »
Wait, random spot. This is much too random if this is true, and if it is a fixed area, there would have to be tons of areas for it to not be rigged very quickly. If implemented right, F12.
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #6 on: July 05, 2007, 05:09:14 pm »
like hold the flag/ctf i like it f12

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2007, 07:28:09 pm »
So, the flag would spawn randomely after each score? Kinda unfair if it spawns right outside one teams base.

I dunno, there might just be some to this idea. I'll keep an open eye on the thread, this could be interresting..

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2007, 10:09:01 pm »
Well, the yellow flag spawns could be set easily.

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2007, 10:35:08 pm »
Very nice idea. F12.

This would make for some interesting maps...
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2007, 10:38:08 pm »
I like This idea HTF CTF mode lol sounds cool and would be ella fun
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2007, 03:37:24 am »
Sounds like fun. F12

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2007, 04:09:17 am »
One Flag CTF from Q3:TA. Full support.

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #13 on: July 06, 2007, 04:32:27 am »
yeah good idea like it

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #14 on: July 06, 2007, 06:19:46 am »
I fully support this, would be very fun to play.

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #15 on: July 06, 2007, 07:21:41 am »
Sounds very cool

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #16 on: July 06, 2007, 07:51:35 am »
Hmm.. yeah. Sounds good. Kinda like a cross between INF and CTF. Nice idea

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #17 on: July 06, 2007, 07:53:03 am »
Hmm.. yeah. Sounds good. Kinda like a cross between INF and CTF. Nice idea

More like a cross-breed of CTF and HTF ;)

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #18 on: July 06, 2007, 08:27:18 am »
Well, GameArena 6 would finally have a use if this got implemented... lol.
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #19 on: July 06, 2007, 09:34:42 am »
so it's red vs blue and each team has to get a common flag somewhere in the map to their base?  sounds good to me...  Kinda like that James Bond for N64 game mode...

Date Posted: July 06, 2007, 10:32:16 AM
hey protoman, why don't you turn this into a poll so MM sees the support more clearly?
YES:  2382
NO:  1
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #20 on: July 06, 2007, 09:37:30 am »
Oh wow. Thanks for the support. Epg mode seems to be a hit!

Just want to say (which seems to be the real 'iffy' point) that the flag would not spawn close to anyones base. The map would have to be wither a large flat land with a few platforms and more in the center for spawn points or a network of tunnels. If you picture Inf_Messenger as Epg_Messenger, then the flag would be in between the two mountains or somewhere in the center mountain (i dont recall how many mountains there are).

Also, remember that the flag spawns randomly. It's not like the flag returns instantly to base. If you stop the reds inches from their flag and you grab the flag, you must now run like a bat outta hell!
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #21 on: July 06, 2007, 03:13:19 pm »
Could this game mode possibly use ctf maps?
Just add some yellow flag spawn places and you can play ctf or ...epg on it!

Date Posted: July 06, 2007, 04:12:17 PM
I'm sure MM would like it more if he wouldn't have to get all new maps for a new game mode!
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #22 on: July 06, 2007, 03:18:22 pm »
Thats what he is saying. It could be like that, That is better than what he is thinking, which is a "spawn zone" in the center of the map. He is thinking that the spawn would be random, but instead, how about just a bunch of spawns where the flag is randomly (on one of the spawns) placed.

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #23 on: July 06, 2007, 04:13:54 pm »
This is a great mode, change this into a poll man.
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #24 on: July 06, 2007, 04:19:11 pm »
Poll it!
However I dunno if I agree with the name.  Sounds a bit... un-soldatish.  How about:  ETF - Extract The Flag
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #25 on: July 06, 2007, 07:39:04 pm »
Ooh... F12 to the new name... lol.
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #26 on: July 07, 2007, 10:25:11 am »
But Espionage is what agents in the cold war did to steal information from enemies. Its a real term...

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2007, 04:03:45 am »
I really hope to see this mode implemented. It sounds excellent! ;D
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #28 on: July 08, 2007, 04:36:24 am »
u mean like both teams getting the flag and returning to their white flag?
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #29 on: July 08, 2007, 10:48:45 pm »
Both teams try to return the yellow flag to their flag, but there is only one yellow flag.

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #30 on: July 08, 2007, 11:08:28 pm »
Wow this is the best idea ive heard in a while.  I really hope someone scripts this... It would take alot of new maps because I would imagine that the maps would have to be quite big and there really arent alot of really big maps... maybe im wrong about the maps having to be big... i dont know.  Either way it's a really killler idea... nice protoman
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #31 on: July 09, 2007, 01:49:36 pm »
this should be inserted into a hole.
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #32 on: July 09, 2007, 04:40:37 pm »
Interesting! I would give it a shot.


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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #33 on: July 10, 2007, 08:22:00 am »
I say F12 but ONLY if it's done right. The "random" word has me worried because it can usually be translated to "unfair" in such types of games.

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #34 on: July 10, 2007, 05:14:59 pm »
Every great thing is tested first. I'm sure unfairness will get filtered in the early stages.

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #35 on: July 11, 2007, 07:38:35 pm »
Sounds good, but, I think you should have to bring the flag to the enemies base, otherswise if one team is killed in the battle for the flag then the other team will easily make it home. Like in a 1v1 CTF, if you die the other person is probably halfway across the map by the time you respawn.

But otherwise, it's a very simple and fun-sounding idea.

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #36 on: July 12, 2007, 06:41:22 am »
hopes this is brought up, what ever the name is, if its espoisonge, i cant spell it with out looking somewhere. f12
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #37 on: September 11, 2007, 06:47:52 pm »
sounds like HTF...
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #38 on: September 11, 2007, 09:39:34 pm »
Great idea. Full support


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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #39 on: September 11, 2007, 11:34:15 pm »
No...

Soldat doesn't have the depth needed to do this. A team could just sit outside the enemy base when it gets superiority and have one guy run around picking up the flag unchallenged. In a 3D shooter, you have the Z axis to move on as well, creating a wider spread to move on.

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #40 on: September 12, 2007, 11:36:04 am »
Interesting ..



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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #41 on: September 12, 2007, 12:10:54 pm »
Mixed ctf and htf ;)

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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #42 on: September 12, 2007, 12:13:36 pm »
noooo, we have less than 90 percent vote!
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Re: Espionage mode
« Reply #43 on: September 12, 2007, 10:00:03 pm »
to make it more fair and eliminate the flag spawining right enxt to the other u could have the red team spawn at the blue falg and vice verse..the only problem i could see with this is a little bit of spawn killing when the falgger is trying to cap