opinions on the ruger

[Maryleaf]

Barret, m79. Or just good tactics, hiding....or something. But then again what if the dude misses 4 times?  Cause that happens to me. So I mean, as long as the ruger operator isnt the best then you have a chance. Move around his shots, get close range with a knife or a 1 hit kill. LAW HIS ASS

[.Ryan.]

Someone who is skilled with the ruger can kill you before you have time to scratch him. it seems awfully powerful to me, but to be fair, it is rather hard to master, and frustrating at times.

[Boots]

Im might be a bit slow at replying to this topic but meh. The ruger seems fine atm, And I no people in tw get pissed of when they get killed 1 shot but yeah. Ruger is one of the harder weapons tro use, And dont see why people fuss over getting killed with it.

Tbh ruger is fine, Dont change it, If you dont like being killed by it.. learn to use it.

[ElGato]

Someone who is skilled with the ruger can kill you before you have time to scratch him. it seems awfully powerful to me, but to be fair, it is rather hard to master, and frustrating at times.

And someone who is skilled with any auto can actually nearly kill the ruger'er before he dies. I will say I would like the ruger to have more of a... skill factor but I don't want it strait up nerfed. It is a bit powerful right now.

[ChromedGun]

And someone who is skilled with any auto can actually nearly kill the ruger'er before he dies.

Nearly kill isn't enough, you know.

[ElGato]

And someone who is skilled with any auto can actually nearly kill the ruger'er before he dies.

Nearly kill isn't enough, you know.

And why not? Because you use autos all the time? If it were the other way around where the auto comes out on top then there would be other people complaining. A missed shot right now with the ruger is already bad enough against good players.... if the autos were more powerful than the ruger then a missed shot would be even worse.

[ChromedGun]

And why not?

Because I die and he doesn't.

If it were the other way around where the auto comes out on top then there would be other people complaining.

Yep. You.

A missed shot right now with the ruger is already bad enough against good players

Thing is, a hitting shot right now with the ruger is too bad against a good rugerer.

[SirJamesaford]

LAW HIS ASS

I agree...

[ElGato]

And why not?

Because I die and he doesn't.

If it were the other way around where the auto comes out on top then there would be other people complaining.

Yep. You.

A missed shot right now with the ruger is already bad enough against good players

Thing is, a hitting shot right now with the ruger is too bad against a good rugerer.

So what yo are saying is the ruger should be pointless? Actually give some argument instead of what you think are witty replies.  I agree it is a good gun but you know what the counter is? A different gun. Learn to use more than the steyr and you ought to be fine. As it is I have no problem killing most ruger users with most any other gun.

[The Owls]

The only thing that needs to be changed with the ruger, is it's rate of fire.  It's a tad bit to high for my liking.  I'm not talking anything drastic though, just a tiny bit slower.

[ElGato]

A higher rate of fire along with a guaranteed 2 hit kill might be a solution... more time for an auto to kill and make it require a bit more skill. At that point a miss could be game breaking if you are out in the open so it sounds good, I'm just not sure how well it would work in practice.

[Devastated Mind]

A higher rate of fire along with a guaranteed 2 hit kill might be a solution... more time for an auto to kill and make it require a bit more skill.

I disagree. This would make aiming for the head pointless and thus steal some of the game's depth, as aiming for the head is an important factor in high level games - people who can do it have an advantage with autos and semi autos.
I play Ruger now for about two years and all the time my aiming has still improved. It takes really long even to master this weapon and still there are better rugertards than me. If you have a problem with a skilled rugertard it's not the weapon's fault. The rugertard earned this with long training. The balance is fine and with other weapons - if mastered - and a good positioning you can be equal to a good rugertard.

[ChromedGun]

So what yo are saying is the ruger should be pointless?

Never did.

Actually give some argument instead of what you think are witty replies.

Where are your arguments?

I agree it is a good gun but you know what the counter is?

A gun that doesn't kill as fast.

Learn to use more than the steyr and you ought to be fine.

I use Minimi, Mp5, Barret, Desert Eagles, Ak74 and sometimes when i'm bored Minigun. Never steyr.

As it is I have no problem killing most ruger users with most any other gun.

Then they aren't good rugerers.

[ElGato]

So what yo are saying is the ruger should be pointless?

Never did.

You want the ruger to lose to autos in an equal situation, you've made that quite clear. As it is in close proximity the ruger already has a hard enough time with the other semi autos and the 1 hit kills and at a long range the people who use autos already do stand a chance. Like I said before, adjust play style to the situation.

Actually give some argument instead of what you think are witty replies.

Where are your arguments?

My arguments have actually been laid out in each post, I have responded to everything you said with reasoning. If I have missed something, let me know.

I agree it is a good gun but you know what the counter is?

A gun that doesn't kill as fast.

I said "different gun" before but let me actually tell you this time. On small maps use spas, deagles, m79 or barret and you ought to be fine. Even LAW and the knife will do the trick. On large maps keep range use some tricky movement on the ground and use an ak or steyr. Barret would do too if you are good with it.

Learn to use more than the steyr and you ought to be fine.

I use Minimi, Mp5, Barret, Desert Eagles, Ak74 and sometimes when i'm bored Minigun. Never steyr.

I made the solution bold for you.

As it is I have no problem killing most ruger users with most any other gun.

Then they aren't good rugerers.

I can guarantee you I play with not only good rugerers, but some of the best in the game.

[ChromedGun]

You want the ruger to lose to autos in an equal situation

Rugers vs autos are never equal situations with the current balance.

As it is in close proximity the ruger already has a hard enough time with the other semi autos and the 1 hit kills and at a long range the people who use autos already do stand a chance.

Right, in proximity = just click and another kill for the rugerer. It's pretty hard to aim with an auto at range where ruger does nothing.

My arguments have actually been laid out in each post, I have responded to everything you said with reasoning. If I have missed something, let me know.

Still haven't seen anything I would classify as "argument".

I said "different gun" before but let me actually tell you this time. On small maps use spas, deagles, m79 or barret and you ought to be fine. Even LAW and the knife will do the trick. On large maps keep range use some tricky movement on the ground and use an ak or steyr. Barret would do too if you are good with it.

I know that. The problem is that ruger maintains effect at any range, since it has unexistant bink.

*snip*Barret, Desert Eagles*/snip*
I made the solution bold for you.

Barret gets binked and desert eagles just doesn't have enough range. Sure, DE is one-hit-kill in realistic to the head and close-up, but ruger is one-hit-kill in realistic to the head but -any- range.

I can guarantee you I play with not only good rugerers, but some of the best in the game.

A good rugerer can kill you as fast as he spots you, leaving no time to even scratch him with any other gun. The only way I see it to be able to pick off rugerers is by sniping with barret, but that doesn't work on most maps due to design and most of the time it would just generate even more annoyance.

[ElGato]

Before I type anything else, is everything for you from a realistic point of view? If so then I apologize and you're right, if not then I'll respond to everything you just said.

[TiReD]

The barrett takes skill to aim! and it has uber bink and uber in between delay


LETS GIVE IT NO BINK AND 20 BULLETS WITH NO DELAY CAUSE ITS HARD TO USE

[Boots]

Give ruger 6 bullets, add a little slower time rate.

[ChromedGun]

Before I type anything else, is everything for you from a realistic point of view?

If you mean realistic mode, then yes.

[~Niko~]

In realistic mode, the recoil is crazy.

I agree, but you can kill 4 people with a clip if you aim properly.

Date Posted: 14 August 2007, 11:05:12

The barrett takes skill to aim! and it has uber bink and uber in between delay


LETS GIVE IT NO BINK AND 20 BULLETS WITH NO DELAY CAUSE ITS HARD TO USE

You, or me, NEVER playing you will end the clip (Or only hardly ever you can shoot the 10 bullets)so don't needs more bullets. And which bink are you talking? Do you mean Mov. Acc?