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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #180 on: July 18, 2007, 08:41:26 pm »
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I do tell my story to anyone that will listen, I am very open about my christianity with everyone and anyone that will listen.
my question was mostly regarding those who are not too keen on listening. lets say you have a friend who doesent really care all that much, will you just leave him be and send him a postcard in hell?
No, I continue to be their friend and tell them if they ever want to see what I see then I will be happy to show them. Aren't you the one against me pushing my beliefs on others?

true, but I am just asking to see what a christian like yourself would do. I know that you do not like pushing your belief on others, so I wonder if you would do it to save someone from hell. the answer is apparently no though. seems you and frunkamunch has different opinions. what does the bible say on this matter?
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« Reply #181 on: July 18, 2007, 08:43:51 pm »
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I do tell my story to anyone that will listen, I am very open about my christianity with everyone and anyone that will listen.
my question was mostly regarding those who are not too keen on listening. lets say you have a friend who doesent really care all that much, will you just leave him be and send him a postcard in hell?
No, I continue to be their friend and tell them if they ever want to see what I see then I will be happy to show them. Aren't you the one against me pushing my beliefs on others?

true, but I am just asking to see what a christian like yourself would do. I know that you do not like pushing your belief on others, so I wonder if you would do it to save someone from hell. the answer is apparently no though. seems you and frunkamunch has different opinions. what does the bible say on this matter?
Did I ever say I wouldn't try? No. I can't make anyone believe something they don't want to, they have to make that decision themselves.
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #182 on: July 18, 2007, 08:44:52 pm »
How does free will exist?

Edit: And if god has free will, how can he decide to create such a world with all the implications and laws?

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« Reply #183 on: July 18, 2007, 08:45:47 pm »
Someone chooses to burn down a church.. they do... free will...
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #184 on: July 18, 2007, 08:46:17 pm »
Someone chooses to burn down a church.. they do... free will...

I editted too!!! Plus, fatalism n00b! There is only one possible outcome therefore no free will

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« Reply #185 on: July 18, 2007, 08:50:02 pm »
The rules are there for people that want to like a Godly life. You can choose to follow them or not. I am not saying that either choice is right, one is wrong and one is right, in a christian's eyes I mean.
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #186 on: July 18, 2007, 08:51:34 pm »
That doesn't really answer the question.

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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #187 on: July 18, 2007, 08:52:41 pm »
Someone chooses to burn down a church.. they do... free will...

he doesn't choose... he thinks that he chooses. but there is always a cause for his choice.
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #188 on: July 18, 2007, 08:53:51 pm »
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Did I ever say I wouldn't try? No. I can't make anyone believe something they don't want to
you do not know that for sure. could you live with yourself if one of your friends died and you COULD have made him a believer if you had kept trying to convince him over and over. or is it not even worth a try?

well dont bother to answer that one. you will not nag anyone that does not wish for it. I respect that.
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« Reply #189 on: July 18, 2007, 08:56:54 pm »
Well if you are wondering why God created the world, it to show His glory. The one rule was there so no other rules need be made and this heaven on earth could stay as is.

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Did I ever say I wouldn't try? No. I can't make anyone believe something they don't want to
you do not know that for sure. could you live with yourself if one of your friends died and you COULD have made him a believer if you had kept trying to convince him over and over. or is it not even worth a try?

well dont bother to answer that one. you will not nag anyone that does not wish for it. I respect that.
I will answer, just to further drive in the point. I never want anyone to go to hell, the concept of it is terrible to me. However again, I can't force anything.
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #190 on: July 18, 2007, 09:02:13 pm »
I never want anyone to go to hell, the concept of it is terrible to me. However again, I can't force anything.
and again, you can not know that in advance.
how do you think other people, other countries changed their religion? through constant nagging and persuation.
its not like they dropped their mythological beliefs or whatever they were believing before christianity, right away
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #191 on: July 18, 2007, 09:07:14 pm »
Yes I do believe the Bible word for word.

But you don't believe that you must do everything the Bible tells you to do?

Stop trying to find godamn errors in the Bible and believe in something. I dare you to remain in denial of any god for the rest of your life.

(btw a good starting place is christianism)

Christianity, unfortunately, is not a good starting place due to the errors in the Bible.  Wouldn't you agree that believing in something requires absolute faith?  How, then, can you say you believe in Christianity when faced with errors in the Bible?

There are much more suitable religions and belief systems out there that actually make sense.  They're few and far between, but they're better than the current major religions.
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #192 on: July 18, 2007, 09:09:52 pm »
if he did he would probably be AFK smashing babies on rocks.
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #193 on: July 18, 2007, 09:12:19 pm »
if he did he would probably be AFK smashing babies on rocks.
Read the versus I told you too, you have no idea how ignorant you sound...

Vijcht, explain further.
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #194 on: July 18, 2007, 09:29:12 pm »
I bet locking all topics other than this one, that are almost exactly like this one would make the lounge a better place.

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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #195 on: July 18, 2007, 09:36:40 pm »
my final question for today, why did you become a christian? you said you found christianity somehow.
To suddenly be convinced of such far fetched things as adam and eve, demons, angels, holy beings and the whole package?
what did it for you?
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« Reply #196 on: July 18, 2007, 09:39:05 pm »
I was a kid actually, I hear a guy speak about christianity at a church I visited every now and then. One day I was listening and just said to myself I want that, later they told people to hang around and come to the back if they want to know more so I stayed and that was the day I started to believe.
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #197 on: July 18, 2007, 09:54:24 pm »
Well why would God send people to hell for believing in something else. I mean im pretty sure God knows that alot of people don't believe in him because he's never showed himself to them. If God really wanted to he could just make everybody belive in Christianity.
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #198 on: July 18, 2007, 10:06:32 pm »
Well why would God send people to hell for believing in something else. I mean im pretty sure God knows that alot of people don't believe in him because he's never showed himself to them. If God really wanted to he could just make everybody belive in Christianity.
I know I have already answer all of these questions here... but anyway... Like I said before we believe God put a thought in everyone to search for Him. Like I said before God is actively trying to reach everyone. God can make everyone believe... but do you want to live without any say in what you do or believe?
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Re: Ask A Christian
« Reply #199 on: July 18, 2007, 10:07:50 pm »
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but do you want to live without any say in what you do or believe?

If I get eternal happiness then HELL YES!