Soldat "Real Life"

[nEttsE]

Hello everyone.
 So, "Real Life" could be like this:

Features:
- Register & Login
Register and Login command
- Character informations
Info about your character
- Buy mod (weapons, meal (for hp))
Every weapon / meal costs some money tho.
- Quests (to get some money)
You will get money by doing quests.
- Bank
Bank and withdraw commands, sending money to others is also included.
- Teams
There's unlimited count of teams. Main teams are Cops and normal Workers. Also you will be able to buy team chat.

What do I need to do?
- Im building at that large map - 90%
- I will pay for server (looks like for 30 persons atm) - 100% (DONE)
- Scripts - 0%

14.3.09
- Updating topic (looks I have currently nothing to do)
-  Is anyone ABLE to make those scripts? If yes, PM me PLEASE. I'm sure they are able to be made. Thanks
18.7.08
- Going @ every-years camping
- Comming back @ 28.7
13.7.08
- This map is the first type. Its more soldat, than realistic. Remember, there is still being developed real map. Streets, buildings, streets, buildings. It has some + and some - too tho.
- And start registering at http://substar.phorum.cz/. News are there ~> ^^.
12.7.08
- Map's at 90%
- Only textures are missing
- Non textured map look
- Everyone, who would like to play this mod should register HERE, I will post updates there. Not here anymore.
9.7.08
- Map's at 30%.
- Updated features and "what's in"
- http://substar.phorum.cz/ >> site
8.7.08
- Im working on it again.
19.8.07
- Stopping creating map till someone will help me... I know, that this is my community, but aint got any fantasy, how it could look.
- I could not wait so long..
- Poll: 47 people wants this community.
11.8.07
- "Beginners" site created ( http://hlr.nolimit.cz/soldat-reallife )
- Map at 15% !!

[SirJamesaford]

Im not sure what your trying to say... maybe go into some more detail if ya can.

[freestyler]

Really BIG map = really LOW fps.

[SirJamesaford]

Whats fps?

[SDFilm]

Is this going to be somesort of RP server? And what is the ping going to be like with that huge map and lots of players?

Date Posted: July 19, 2007, 02:15:24 PM

Whats fps?

Frames-Per-Second.

[Red_Dawn]

im not sure what u mean....

[nEttsE]

There will be not so low FPS or so high... there could not extra objects...

Date Posted: 19-07-2007, 15:29:01Topic Updated.

[Leo]

It's Soldat not The Sims

[nEttsE]

But look, this should be good! Do you know Star Wars Jedi Knight : Jedi Academy ? There is mod like i want create for soldat.

[a-4-year-old]

that would be one of the crappiest semi-MMO RPGs ever.

and climb servers suck pretty bad as well. so just make a decent CTF server.

[SirJamesaford]

Hey if you can do it then go for it... i'd try it out i guess.  I try most other things.

[nEttsE]

Ok, but vote above...
a-4-year-old > Tell me, whats good for you ? You hate soldat climb, you hate this "Real Life". Tell me, what do you like. This could be really good. Server for a lot of persons. I think, this could be really popular, and not so boring.

[SDFilm]

I like the idea but I'm not sure how you can get it to work without tons of scripting and an account system. You might as well just play 2nd Life, Alien Adoption Agency, Neopets or EVE (I recommend EVE) rather than trying to make Soldat something it's not.

[Nitro]

Im just going to say this is never going to happen and it would suck anyways so maybe you should start thinking about your life and not "SOLDAT REAL LIFE"

[nEttsE]

There is one server, at which you can register, get levels, and spells ...

Date Posted: 19-07-2007, 16:05:31Topic Updated.

[Avarax]

But look, this should be good! Do you know Star Wars Jedi Knight : Jedi Academy ? There is mod like i want create for soldat.

ask yourself these 5 questions:

1. Do I have the mapping skill that this takes so people won't have their eyes injured when playing it?
2. Do I have the scripting skills to make such an enormous script?
3. Do I have a server that could possibly host this?
4. Do I have the huge load of time required to make this?
5. Will enough of the action focussed Soldat players be interested in playing on it so the project will be actually worth its effort?

[Martino]

I think that can work but I don't think that 1 server is good idea. I think that it will be better to make this as web page. So that means that you will get levels on server but it will be write on page. Work will be another server, killing for levels another. But you will need many servers, maps and scripts.

[nEttsE]

But look, this should be good! Do you know Star Wars Jedi Knight : Jedi Academy ? There is mod like i want create for soldat.

ask yourself these 5 questions:

1. Do I have the mapping skill that this takes so people won't have their eyes injured when playing it?
2. Do I have the scripting skills to make such an enormous script?
3. Do I have a server that could possibly host this?
4. Do I have the huge load of time required to make this?
5. Will enough of the action focussed Soldat players be interested in playing on it so the project will be actually worth its effort?

1. There should be any good person(s), which should make that map.
2. For scripts, i will search persons like you, Avarax.
3. I will pay myself for server. Looks like for 40 persons. (Laggy connectionts = kick / ban)
4. Of course, I will have full month August.
5. I think, this will be very popular.

[Xasthur]

Im just going to say this is never going to happen and it would suck anyways so maybe you should start thinking about your life and not "SOLDAT REAL LIFE"

Hehe, just wanted to say that!

[Snipufin]

I'd say Climb Community is better, though there are enough already.

[nEttsE]

Im just going to say this is never going to happen and it would suck anyways so maybe you should start thinking about your life and not "SOLDAT REAL LIFE"

Hehe, just wanted to say that!

Dude, this is only about this: I will build it, i will find admins, and i will play it, when i will have some time. Thats all.

[Xasthur]

Hope you will make it, but I doubt.

[Martino]

I think that it's good idea but I really think that this is impossible to make this on 1 server because of problems. I really don't understand what kind of jobs do you want to give here. I do know only few jobs that you can do in soldat.I really think that it will be better on web page and lot of servers. Every for 1 job. Buying will be on web. Job will be in realtime so that means that if you go to job you can't go anywhere else. Every player will have few healths so assasinating will be really useful.

[Cappy]

I prefer the climbing community...Soldat life, meh sounds too complicated.

[Red_Dawn]

yeah do the climbing one unless u can make scripts like that

[nEttsE]

I think, for people will be better Real Life.. why ? Cause there are no Elite Admins required... Look, Soldat Climb Community is openned 9 days, and there is still no other elite admin. But i need him. Also there are 5 other persons, which wants become Basic Admin... Look, i need Elites first..

[puddlejumper]

Good idea, however, I have a few suggestions.

1) Don't expect people to jump up to help you. Try to do it yourself; learn scripting and map making if you have to.

2) The idea itself is a good one, however Soldat isn't built to do the kind of things you want done. This doesn't mean that you can't do it. I'd work with MM to see what he can do to help you (I.E. make some NPC's with conversation scripts, etc.).

3) Lag? MM had an idea... http://mm.soldat.pl/?p=18

4) This is for the people who posted here: Stop being so negative. If you think it's going to fail, don't post and ignore this thread. I hate people who go around throwing their ignorance and unwillingness to help in other's faces just because it seems too hard. It's entirely pointless to tell someone their idea is going to fail. The only way most people learn is by failing. I can't tell you how much I've learned just by having an idea and working toward it. I usually failed, but I learned things that will make me succeed in the future.

5) This is going to take more than a month. I'd suggest reading some books about Project Management, because it'll take time, effort, people and a lot of stress.

6) Just do it!

[nEttsE]

puddlejumper:
I know that all, cause ive got my experiences.. I could make big map, and i will rent a server.  I think, for 30 persons is enough (i will know more later). Then i need only mod scripter ( i hate scripting, i hate numbers, i hate letters, ffs).
I will start everything at start of August. You people can still vote, and type here your suggestions. I will read everything after i will come back from camping (21.7 - 31.7).

[nosejj]

Climbing Community, I think ppl would play Sims instead of Soldat Real Life.

[Wormdundee]

The one huge problem in your idea here is that you don't want to do scripting. This sounds like along the lines of those people who are all "I'm going to make a game, it's going to be totally awesome, and all I need are graphic artists, programmers, mappers, sound effects people, and everybody else! How easy is that?!!?"

What usually happens in these situations is that noone wants to give that much time to something that they didn't even come up with, aren't really that excited about, and aren't getting any compensation for it besides the fact that you made something.

I know that's kind of what happened with Ouden.

[nEttsE]

I think, i should put there just realistic mode. Levels dont matter. I am building that map, im at 1% atm ...

[Temp3st]

F11 F11 F11 F11

[Toumaz]

F11 F11 F11 F11

Nice one I must say.
- "Hey, which one of these communities should I start?"
- "Not in favor of."

Wormdundee raises a valid point; you're not really going to do much yourself, you're demanding too much from others, and very few would like to jump onto this rather huge "real life" project (if it's going to be as epic as you're trying to present it).

I'd say go for the climbing one as it wouldn't require nearly as much effort from your side (biased opinion since I'm a lazy cunt myself).

[nEttsE]

F11 F11 F11 F11

Nice one I must say.
- "Hey, which one of these communities should I start?"
- "Not in favor of."

Wormdundee raises a valid point; you're not really going to do much yourself, you're demanding too much from others, and very few would like to jump onto this rather huge "real life" project (if it's going to be as epic as you're trying to present it).

I'd say go for the climbing one as it wouldn't require nearly as much effort from your side (biased opinion since I'm a lazy **** myself).

1) I will do that, what wants other people
2) If i will do Climb Community, i should a) pay for 4 servers | b) i will need to buy irc bot | c) i will need to buy domain
IRC Bot: 18 euro
Domain: 15 euro / half year
Servers: 7 euro / month
_____total_____ 40 euro + 9,5 euro/month

~For "Real Life"
(Maybe) IRC Bot: 3 euro
Domain: 15 euro
Servers: 5 euro
_____total_____ 23 euro + 7,5 euro/month

[a-4-year-old]

ok well if you are just going to change the numbers to prove a point then sure go ahead and make your server.

there are enough climb servers already and not enough people want to play "real life"

[nEttsE]

ok, now i will need some "testers", which will tell me, "yes, this is good" or "no, this is not good"

[Demonic]

This is the crappest idea I've ever read. You can't have such a mod running, because you could only have 32 people on at the same time, and even so such a huge map would be unplayable ( 1) it will lag for everyone 2) people wouldn't be able to find each other ).

[nEttsE]

Cause you "think" it only..

[Avarax]

demonic knows.
dont doubt his allmightyness

[echo_trail]

You should definitely NOT start a climbing server. They suck, and there's allready more than enough. Interresting concept failing horribly.

Anyway, realistic mode freaking owns, so I really think you should go for that. Plus, there not nearly enough realplayers as it is, so anything to help, yeah?

,
echo_trail

[Spec. Ops]

Lets see that map and if it looks good i might suggest you should continue.

[client]

what about playing mm`s normal soldat insted of making a big unplayable map. demonic have right it will lagg with 32 players and a really big map.

[nEttsE]

So guys, 21-31.7 i will be at camp, when i will come back, i will continue building that map. I will need some "testers" so post here.. testers should be normal persons, testers will become admins of this reallife. This should be great.
dOh

- nEttsE

[mitja]

OK i can be one of the choosen testers anyway HF in the camp

[Remagen]

GL and HF in this project. /Hodně Å¡těstí.

[.Long-Range]

nEttsE, I like your idea and everything but Soldat wouldn't be able to support those kinds of things. There would be too much lag and if people didn't like the idea, a lot of your time would be wasted. Also, can you be more descriptive of what you have in mind? Are you trying to create a MMORPG except in server form so to speak? I think we're going to need much more detail if you want us to understand your idea.

[CheeSeMan.]

so ull write a bad-ass script?

[TradeMAAK]

I like real life idea. Use realistic maps (cities, TT type maps). But with NO JET, so its realistic. And set it deathmatch, so you spawn in some house or something and can go and shoot everyone in the streets, but you have to use your climbing skills, so you don't die. Of course - realistic mode.

[treeSkwerrral]

I like trademaak's idea.  THAT kind of map I'd play.  Not enough city type maps on soldat.  There's the one climb map like it but no major city maps for shooting.  I've wanted to make maps but it's really hard and I can't figure it out.  I wish there was a step by step tutorial on how to make A single map to get you started with the concept.

[TheOwnage]

It's easy to make map, but it's hard to make GOOD map. But i like this idea.

[WhoTheHellAreYou]

ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh huh

[nEttsE]

Back to business. Tomorow i will continue with building that map.
Remagen : Thx / Díky.
CheeSeMan. : So you should not post any reply, if you dont like it. "Bad-Ass script ?" > No.
TradeMAAK : With jets, minimum fuel. (Just lets get in more "Soldat Classic" )
treeSkwerrral : I am building that map.
TheOwnage : Thanks
.... i will continue building this map in 2 days.

[matt]

maping dose not take a genius. All u need is a lot of time and a good mouse.
if it is your first time making a map. it will take a while.   

[who flung poo]

i believe that this is possible, but all the stuff that you'll need to do will most likely take longer then it took Field Marshal BM to make the WWII mod

[nEttsE]

... next thing ... i need a lot of ppl, which will stay at my IRC channel = #soldat.reallife = . I need to make that community at IRC, not at  forums.soldat.pl ... I need support of more than 30 idlers at my channel in next 7 days. pLeAsE

[who flung poo]

i would totally help, but i'm currently getting my parents to buy high-speed connection and i'm pretty sure they're going to get it real soon so i could help but not right at the moment

[Coolanm60000]

i'm looking forward to play in this server so good luck. you have my vote

[WhoTheHellAreYou]

Just do a half
50% of community supporters-Clib servers
50% of community supporters-Real life servers
thats all, no fighting and bullshit.

[nEttsE]

"WhoTheHellAreYou" : I cant create 2 communities at once. If yes, i need one person, which will be respectful, loyalful, aso... except that person will pay for 3 climb servers. Any questions ?
Next thing - I need some support, someone, which has mapping creativity, which will help me do more things at that map. If there will be someone, PM me (at forums.soldat.pl).

- nEttsE`

[^_^]

I love this idea, you could make it a team match server so everyone could pick a group (Blue is cops, red is some type of gange, green is citizens or something, yellow is another gang). I would make the map decent sized, but not too big, maybe some small houses, and some big ones, but not too many, just enough to satisfy each 'teams' needs.

I have always loved the idea of role-playing in soldat, maybe that's why I like Trenchwars and Decaying Zombie so much.

Great idea, I hope it goes through.

EDIT:
Actually, I think it should be Deathmatch

Im wondering if this is even possible but:

Maybe there could be different classes activated in the same way you check stats and can become a medic on a server like Leo's.
In example, you'd join the server, type "!police", "!civilian", "!gangster" ETC to join a 'group', somehow implementing a code so that others who have joined this group can't hurt eachother. Also, maybe permit certain weapons to certain groups:

Cops would get Deagle, knife, 2xDeagle (oh no, it's Chow Yun Fat!) and such.
Civilians would only get single handgun, knife, chainsaw, and low-powered machine guns.
Gangs would get handguns, knife, chainsaw, submachine guns, ETC.
Special Forces could get assault rifles and such.
Army Soldiers could get assault rifles and explosives.

Like I said, doubt this is possible, but it was just a thought.

[King_Of_Pain]

Well, you can try it if you want to. It'll have to be a masterpiece of scripting to get it to work smoothly, and you'll need a server that can handle having a minimum of 20 people doing everything at once.

If you can pull it off, though, tell me as soon as you can.

[nEttsE]

Ive got many problems with my own life. I will not do this really long time, cause i will not have any time to do it. When my own life will be ok, i will mess you all, and you can add to perform my IRC channel at QuakeNet #soldat.reallife (just add to perform). Thanks

-nEttsE

[treeSkwerrral]

We'll all be waiting patiently for your map dude even if there's no mod a good map is always an appriciated contribution.

[nEttsE]

Great message. Now everything is ok, so i can continue building map.
- i am still searching someone with fantasy in his/her mind (about map).

-nEttsE

Date Posted: 11-08-2007, 16:39:20Back to business. Map is at 30%! I'm going on it myself. Three main testers are chosen.

[Exodus]

What the hell?

[Shadow G-Unit]

What the hell?

He just rebumped his own 1 year old topic.

[Exodus]

¬_¬

[nEttsE]

Haha, Im working on it 3 days without any break. Well, only 3 buildings more, and beta will be out. Of course, only for beta testers. Then I will release covered 0.9 beta for public, then the main stage 1.0, where objects will be included.

[Scarab]

Shall we sing "Happy Birthday" to this topic?

IT'S ITS FIRST B-DAY!

[cunchy]

I suspect huge lag from this map. Big maps = LAGG DDD:

[unforgiven]

So you want SOLDAT to be like all other OL games?

[nEttsE]

Ah. Cunchy, dont act like an idiot. Deppends on the textures. If there will be alot of textures, then there will be really low FPS.
Unfogiven, you should understand, that this is project. I will see, if it will work or not. You say "OL" games? You should explain it first. Thanks

[JupiterShadow]

If there will be alot of textures, then there will be really low FPS.

No, More polys/scenery = lower fps and bigger file size. Fps has little to do with map textures.

[nEttsE]

** yeh. Tho, I need to do 3 more buildings to release first version of this map. There is not low fps still.

[cunchy]

You have to take account that 30 people will be running around doing stuff, and that increases lag too. Especially if they get to use guns.

I'd like to see a demo of the map too, just to see what the map generally looks like.

[nEttsE]

Maps version 0.7 is done. Waiting for testers to agree, that I'll hide all those other things. Then it will be done. After that, we will need to add textures in there. Then 0.9 beta will be done. After that, I will release functional map.

Date Posted: 11-07-2008, 12:52:57And then, I will upload it to server with scripts, and everything will be done.

[unforgiven]

Unfogiven, you should understand, that this is project. I will see, if it will work or not. You say "OL" games? You should explain it first. Thanks

"OL"= online

[matt]

yes because it seems interesting...

[nEttsE]

Hello, it's 14.3.09 and looks like this project was suggested like 1,5 year ago. I'm just trying to ask again one thing I was asking before: Is anyone able to make those scripts? If yes, please PM me. Thanks & See ya.

[Demonic]

Apperantly, no.

And you're not bumping this again.