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Offline mikembm

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Zitrostats ranking?
« on: July 20, 2007, 11:19:45 pm »
I was just curious how the ranking in zitrostats works.

Things I would like to know:
How many points does a new player get
What are the formulas for determining a players new points on kill and death

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2007, 11:31:20 pm »
I suppose you could download the package and have a look in the source.

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #2 on: July 21, 2007, 12:43:43 am »
Can someone give me an idea of what the range of the rankings are?  If they're like (mostly) 500 to 1500 or in that general range, it might use the ELO Rating System which is most commonly used.

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #3 on: July 21, 2007, 01:57:41 am »
Yeah I tried to understand the ELO system but can't. Like how mnay points does the FIRST person start out with in the ELO system? And then things like what about new players and the formulas.

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #4 on: July 21, 2007, 02:07:04 am »
Yeah, I have to admit I've looked it at a few times but still have quite a bit to learn about how it works

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #5 on: July 21, 2007, 03:52:53 am »
The ELO system was made actually for chess and it sucks for Soldat.

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2007, 04:51:31 am »
Exactly what Leo said. The ELO system isn't complicated, actually it's very simple, just read the Wiki page for it and you should understand how it works in no time. But the fact is that it sucks for ranking players in Soldat based on kills, and it shows in rankings.

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2007, 05:11:55 am »
At my status I have changed the formula to (Kills - Deaths)*(kills/deaths) = Points It's much more fair.

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2007, 07:12:49 am »
When player joins a server, he is having 1000 points by default, as far as I know.
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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #9 on: July 21, 2007, 07:26:46 am »
Only thing I hate about the rankin systems I've seen is that it cant always have ur name and doesnt always count you. [eC] servers cant understand the name Hunt | Maryleaf for some odd reason.
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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #10 on: July 21, 2007, 07:51:42 am »
Only thing I hate about the rankin systems I've seen is that it cant always have ur name and doesnt always count you. [eC] servers cant understand the name Hunt | Maryleaf for some odd reason.
You mean that it can not get the clan tag from the name, or then it takes it it wrong way, or can't you use the "Your Quickprofile"-thing?
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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2007, 08:04:26 am »
On [eC] servers, I have been playing for ALONG time. So I figured my name would have some kind of rank in it. Hunt | Maryleaf is not found, either is Prey | Maryleaf, which is my other name I use to use. Only name that is on there is Maryleaf back in the 06 or something. I dont know, people say it cant read some clan's tag's or w/e.
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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #12 on: November 05, 2008, 09:20:38 am »
How to make rank calculation not for k/d and for kill

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #13 on: November 05, 2008, 04:03:23 pm »
Well you can do it in many ways I would define it something like this(probably needs some constants but this is the raw formula)
Points = K/D * ((W/P)+(YC/TC))

K/D = Kill/Death Ratio
W = Wins for your team
P = Played Games
YC = Your Caps
TC = Team Caps(the one you are on)

This formula would premier teamplay quite a bit more then just basing it on k/d but not leaving out individual skill all together.
« Last Edit: November 08, 2008, 09:21:55 am by zakath »

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #14 on: November 06, 2008, 01:12:34 pm »
zitrostats only reads the killlogs afaik, so 'reading' caps is impossible.

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #15 on: November 06, 2008, 01:45:09 pm »
nah its not impossible you just have to make your own log ;) so a simply stats script for the server that save that kind of data to a log file and another parsing it.

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #16 on: November 06, 2008, 03:45:50 pm »
Saving caps can be false as people can just join an empty server and start capping ;)

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #17 on: November 08, 2008, 09:21:28 am »
Saving caps can be false as people can just join an empty server and start capping ;)

Well that you can prevent in the script just make sure that you have more then 1 player ;)

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Re: Zitrostats ranking?
« Reply #18 on: November 09, 2008, 12:14:36 pm »
Well you can do it in many ways I would define it something like this(probably needs some constants but this is the raw formula)
Points = K/D * ((W/P)+(YC/TC))

K/D = Kill/Death Ratio
W = Wins for your team
P = Played Games
YC = Your Caps
TC = Team Caps(the one you are on)

This formula would premier teamplay quite a bit more then just basing it on k/d but not leaving out individual skill all together.

I have implemnted the above and so far the ranking seems to be working ok but I am collecting more data to be sure.

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