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Although abstinence is the best choice for avoiding pregnancy, you must realize that sexual urges are natural; especially so in a growing teen, male or female. It's perfectly normal for somebody to have sex before they decide they want a child.
You're also not taking into account the fact that childbirth is one of the most painful things a woman can go through.
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Although abstinence is the best choice for avoiding pregnancy, you must realize that sexual urges are natural; especially so in a growing teen, male or female. It's perfectly normal for somebody to have sex before they decide they want a child.You're also not taking into account the fact that childbirth is one of the most painful things a woman can go through. Abortion, or the immense pain of childbirth and several thousand dollars a year plus twice as many sleepless nights to raise a baby?
But abortion is probably one of the most painful things a fetus can go through.
Quote from: Anna on August 06, 2007, 11:31:17 amQuote from: {LAW} Gamer_2k4 on August 06, 2007, 11:16:29 amAgainst her will? The ONLY situation where having a baby is completely against a woman's will is in the case of rape. Aside from that, if you're going to have sex (the evolutionary goal of which is to produce offspring), you'd better be prepared for the consequences.By that logic, we shouldn't treat people who contract sexually transmitted diseases unless they were raped.Ok.
Quote from: {LAW} Gamer_2k4 on August 06, 2007, 11:16:29 amAgainst her will? The ONLY situation where having a baby is completely against a woman's will is in the case of rape. Aside from that, if you're going to have sex (the evolutionary goal of which is to produce offspring), you'd better be prepared for the consequences.By that logic, we shouldn't treat people who contract sexually transmitted diseases unless they were raped.
Against her will? The ONLY situation where having a baby is completely against a woman's will is in the case of rape. Aside from that, if you're going to have sex (the evolutionary goal of which is to produce offspring), you'd better be prepared for the consequences.
Quote from: Anna on August 06, 2007, 11:31:17 amQuote[bias warning] I've never heard anyone justify murder because they were fat. Pregnancy is essentially the same thing. You alter your body because of a choice that you made. The only one responsible for it is you.Wow, fat hate and woman hate together in the same paragraph! Getting an abortion is taking responsibility.Oh yeah, I clearly HATE both fat people and women. >_>
Quote[bias warning] I've never heard anyone justify murder because they were fat. Pregnancy is essentially the same thing. You alter your body because of a choice that you made. The only one responsible for it is you.Wow, fat hate and woman hate together in the same paragraph! Getting an abortion is taking responsibility.
[bias warning] I've never heard anyone justify murder because they were fat. Pregnancy is essentially the same thing. You alter your body because of a choice that you made. The only one responsible for it is you.
And getting an abortion isn't taking responsibility. Getting an abortion is an easy way out from the responsibility you should have had. Let's say you spilled something on a white wall. You have two options:1. Take responsibility and clean up the spill2. Say "Screw this" and paint over itAbortion is like the second option. It's a quick fix because you don't want to the obligations associated with raising a child. That's not responsibility.
Quote from: Anna on August 06, 2007, 11:31:17 amAlready born babies are no longer parasites and no longer require the use of a uterus to survive. The woman can choose to raise it herself or give it up for adoption.And she should do that in the case of any unwanted pregnancy. Nine months is a small price to pay to give someone else 70 years of life.
Already born babies are no longer parasites and no longer require the use of a uterus to survive. The woman can choose to raise it herself or give it up for adoption.
Date Posted: August 06, 2007, 11:38:20 AMQuote from: Xxypher on August 06, 2007, 11:35:07 amI am pro-choice... Let women do what they want to their body.I'm all for that too. But most women refuse to abort their own bodies. They'd prefer to abort someone else's.
I am pro-choice... Let women do what they want to their body.
Date Posted: August 06, 2007, 11:39:04 AMQuote from: Anna on August 06, 2007, 11:32:32 amQuote from: {LAW} Gamer_2k4 on August 06, 2007, 11:16:29 amMaybe she should wait until then to have sex. Like I said, actions have consequences. You can't sleep around willy-nilly now, then get serious later. If you're going to act in a way that may make you pregnant, you should be ready to have that baby. Otherwise you're just irresponsible.Yeah, punish those sluts!!Ok.
Quote from: {LAW} Gamer_2k4 on August 06, 2007, 11:16:29 amMaybe she should wait until then to have sex. Like I said, actions have consequences. You can't sleep around willy-nilly now, then get serious later. If you're going to act in a way that may make you pregnant, you should be ready to have that baby. Otherwise you're just irresponsible.Yeah, punish those sluts!!
Maybe she should wait until then to have sex. Like I said, actions have consequences. You can't sleep around willy-nilly now, then get serious later. If you're going to act in a way that may make you pregnant, you should be ready to have that baby. Otherwise you're just irresponsible.
But it's not here choice, that's what I'm saying. The baby has no choice. It is not the womans responsibility alone, she has to step up to the plate and realize she is no longer just in charge of her own body, but someone else's as well.
So what your saying is a tree isn't a tree until it has sprouted out of the ground? I'm pretty sure it is a tree when it has roots, you don't have to see it to make it a tree.
What if the man doesn't agree on the abortion then?I'm trying to show here that nor man nor women have the upper hand in this, and try to take away all woman- and man-hate.Grtz, DePhille
A fetus is essentially a parasite. It requires its host's body to survive. Forcing a woman to continue to be pregnant, allowing the fetus to use her body against her will, is in violation of her right to bodily autonomy.
I can't wait until the day that dudes can get pregnant.
... An extremely bad life or no life at all?
Yes, that is the heart of why I am against it. The fetus has no voice, but it doesn't want to die. Others want it to die, and it is destroyed becuase of the mere fact it can't defend itself. Poeple are against the death sentence for people that are serial killers (I am against capital btw) but they think abortion is fine. That is wrong.