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Offline Tek+Lok

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what happened to my knife
« on: August 16, 2007, 02:06:07 am »
dont know if this is a bug or version change, or just me.

But i used to be able to switch to knife just as I spawned, and hold F immediately and throw it

Now there seems to be a bit of  a delay, which really sucks because it means i have disadvantage against spawn killers now. But after i spawn it is perfectly fine.

anyone know what I am talking about?

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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2007, 02:20:28 am »
They took that out...dont ask me why but they did.
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2007, 02:51:35 am »
They changed it because people could throw it while they were still invincible , thats just p o l l y ics
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2007, 03:09:12 am »
Yeah stupid chnage, was one of the knifes best features
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2007, 03:39:24 am »
KnIvEs and hell yeah.
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #5 on: August 16, 2007, 04:29:17 am »
I agree with you dizzy. It seems ike the beta testers aren't objective enough. Majority of the people playing soldat aren't in a clan and don't take it so seriously as clanners. I'm starting to think that clanners play soldat because of an obligation and not for fun anymore

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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #6 on: August 16, 2007, 04:32:57 am »
damit will!  haha... i retracted my post cuz it was getting too long and starting to drift into serious territory... err, I hate it when a post goes completely offtopic and wanted to avoid that...brb with the meat of the matter as it applies to the 'knife thing'


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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #7 on: August 16, 2007, 04:36:47 am »
oh fuck it then... :P

you should have made another topic with that. Would be a nice debate, finally something soldat related.

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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2007, 05:03:24 am »
Your wish for fish come true.
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I try very hard to respect thread titles.... since my post became about much more than the Knife thing, I chose to remove, edit and repost it.  People who are only concerned about the 1.4.2 knife thing deserve to find their topic and not get tangled up in my semi-related rants.
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2007, 07:19:40 am »
knifes rulez but the change is stupid

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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2007, 04:07:52 pm »
well does that mean that i now have enough invincibility to get out of the way from spawn killers?

i remember jumping as soon as i spawn near sawers and they'd still catch my feet anyways, idk i guess its ok

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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2007, 04:20:50 pm »
If only I could get on Soldat to get spawned.
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2007, 04:57:58 pm »
Well now I notice that if i press q and then f without even waiting for my knife to show I can throw it and itll kill them if it would be a hit. :D
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #13 on: August 17, 2007, 08:57:40 am »
Well now I notice that if i press q and then f without even waiting for my knife to show I can throw it and itll kill them if it would be a hit. :D

It looks as if it's like that but it's really lag that's causing the illusion. Try it offline and you will see that you can't do that.
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2007, 09:45:40 am »
Balancing issue aswell. EVERYONE uses knife already. Without that, MAYBE someone can change to use LAW more often, or Socom.

Everyone disagrees with this feature, since 70% of people use knife. :|
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #15 on: August 17, 2007, 10:13:14 am »
I agree with Clawbug, knife is already very effective. I'm a law user, but im not complaining about not being able to kill someone right when I spawn. If you look at the stats on a major server, you will find that many many more people use knife than any other secondary. This kinda goes along the lines of the barret a couple versions ago, where they added delay. It was the most used weapon, so it had the same effect.
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2007, 10:15:46 am »
well i dont use the knife so, thats no problem with me
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #17 on: August 18, 2007, 05:22:47 am »
the knife-only side of that change:
you spawn - you wanna throw because an enemy is near you.
what happens? the enemy is happily throwing at you - your knife just drops lowly down because you threw too early, his knife happily cuts off your ass... you just have no chance to throw back.
and what's the reason for this change? if someone is in your base ready to spawnkill you the i think it's good if you have a small advantage. AND: the invincibility is not THAT long. for real it doesn't help (me) anything..

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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #18 on: August 18, 2007, 06:51:20 am »
So what? Let him spawnkill. I haven't been spawnkilled in public servers since 1.1.5 at least not that much I would think it as lame tactic, or would even bother to complain about it.

Same goes for clanwars, sure it is annoying in maps like ctf_Voland, 1 enemy just spawnkills and 2 others run the flags, 1-3 easy caps.

Knifes advantages over others, and now people whining that they can not kill spawnkillers with it, oh come on! ;(
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Re: what happened to my knife
« Reply #19 on: August 18, 2007, 08:02:24 am »
This update dosent help against those lame spawn killers and that sux. but yeah, i can understand why they did it. i have no problem with it. i just play on and have fun.