Need Answers on why ppl say barret sucks!

[Ziem]

Using an auto doesn't require less skill then a barret, it shoots straight so if you can point and click then you can aim a barret.  It's more or less, Use gun on man.
And autos aren't exactly effective 2 screens away.

It is not the hardest gun to aim Seeing as it's point and click.

And you must of been versing morons in DM because in any DM people avoid the barret because you've got to get up in people's faces and that's one of the most effective ways to get kills.

Sure, barret is easy, as long as you are standing or prone-flying.
And he just faced some noobs on public server who wanted him to join their noob clans -.-

[Sir Jeremy]

I love using Barret it's like my fav gun.  When u reload ure barret and enemies there just nade em like mad But idk what noobs say barret pwns :]

[Noobinabox]

The "running from bush to bush" technique is an utter disgrace to all Barrett users.

1.) You rarely get to cap (which is what you need to do to win)
2.) You are easily overrun when you decide to have a stationary defense.

What I do like is the Barrett user who can cap strategically (i.e, rushing at the right time) and end up near the top of the end game score-sheet because they've been capping lots.

[$niper]

Barret is one of the hardest weapons to use when attacking but once you get use to it it becomes one of the best and easiest weapons.
I find it funny when people run around the map with m79's then call me a noob for killing them with a barret while im moving in the air.

[tehsnipah]

i kicked many people's ass with barret, even in cw and scrims. so don't whine crap about it. just my opinion, you probably don't even kno bollockss about barret, so untill you know barret like back of your head, don't whine about barret. or i'll head shot you

[M.rSnow]

Barret is one of the hardest weapons to use when attacking but once you get use to it it becomes one of the best and easiest weapons.
I find it funny when people run around the map with m79's then call me a noob for killing them with a barret while im moving in the air.

Please dont bump old treads.

I think the barrets perfect. 100% perfect. I can kill a sniper whit my knife allthough il (probebly) die in the process.
I look at the barret as a high risk-high deadliness weapon. If you miss the first shot while facing a moderate player you dont have a chance.

i kicked many people's ass with barret, even in cw and scrims. so don't whine crap about it. just my opinion, you probably don't even kno bollockss about barret, so untill you know barret like back of your head, don't whine about barret. or i'll head shot you

That's a brag-post or your just trying to say that the barrets too easy to use. Becasue i dont think either make's sence.

[tehsnipah]

no, i'm saying that if i can kill many people with barret, then other people should be able. if that sounds like a bragging, then you're probably overthinking

[InoX]

I think barret and m79 dont need skill.
Why do you think all beginers choose them? Major enter in a server and be blasted until he takes m79 or barret and simply click and kill people. Thats why in public servers those weap are like 70-80% of primary weap usage.

In good servers ( gathers/clanwar ), m79 is really harder to master and usefull to make fast caps,
but, too many maps are so tiny, and make it even more easy to kill with. In such servers, barret is just way overpowered, so easy to use. The fact is when a normal player try to kill you with barret, if he fail, he just made an error. YOU cant do anything against a barretard, you cant dodge the bullet, thats why its so anoying, you can try to bink him but 70% of time he will kill you before. Maybe increasing the movement speed of players can fix it? so we would be able to make faster prone dodge?

[STM1993]

I think barret and m79 dont need skill.
Why do you think all beginers choose them? Major enter in a server and be blasted until he takes m79 or barret and simply click and kill people. Thats why in public servers those weap are like 70-80% of primary weap usage.

In good servers ( gathers/clanwar ), m79 is really harder to master and usefull to make fast caps,
but, too many maps are so tiny, and make it even more easy to kill with. In such servers, barret is just way overpowered, so easy to use. The fact is when a normal player try to kill you with barret, if he fail, he just made an error. YOU cant do anything against a barretard, you cant dodge the bullet, thats why its so anoying, you can try to bink him but 70% of time he will kill you before. Maybe increasing the movement speed of players can fix it? so we would be able to make faster prone dodge?

M79 simply needs estimation. That is why it is quite easy to use. However, it fires only one shot and it takes 3 seconds to reload, so during this time he's as good as dead ; just rush him and he's bound to be killed unless he is clever enough to switch to his secondary and is good with the secondary. Its bullet speed is so low that if you stay at a distance away, he can't even hit you and is forced to either get closer, run away or use another weapon. However, the low bullet speed allows the projectile to arc, so it is quite useful in making angled shots while other guns can't reach you or do the same thing. To make up for all these glaring weaknesses of the M79, it has th ability to do what we call the "M79 Boost".

Barrett is actually fine, though I heard its getting a faster firing rate by 15 ticks (which may make it slightly overpowered or still remain balanced). The Barrett is easy to use only if you have aim and estimation, and if you know how to move while using the Barrett. The only problem would probably be the bink or bullet reg actually, because it seems that despite being binked severely, a Barret-user may still be able to shoot straight. For Barrett, its all about aim and estimation at once. Why estimation? The startup time, and if you are shooting over scoped ranges, you need to aim slightly beyond where the opponent is because it takes time for the bullet to travel.

If a Barrett user fails to kill you, it means he has failed to estimate correctly, failed at aiming, you being agile and getting him off-guard, or the bullet register (hits you, but deal no damage). Overall I think the Barrett is fine ever since startup time is implemented. It's about getting a suitable distance towards the Barrett-user (depending on the gun you use), deceive him, try avoiding his line of sight, make him miss and rush him down. He has 4 seconds (and slightly more due to startup time) before he can fire again, much longer than the M79.

So...

M79
- Easy to use (it is a very basic weapon, you can just pick up and use)
- Difficult to Master (if you're fighting against good players, they can easily dodge you)
- Knowledge on how to make use of its explosive power (to repel enemies, to boost yourself)
- You must not miss.

Barrett
- Knowledge on how to move with the Barrett required (so movementacc doesn't affect)
- Aiming skill and Estimation skill (that would be quite easy, but if you are horrible at either, good luck)
- You can only fight against one or maximum two people. A third person = High chance of losing.
- You must not miss.

[ashxu]

i dont thing the barret is a noob wep, the m79 is.
The barret requires some skills to aim, just dont listen to any dumbass that says u are "cheap"

Yeah, i think the Barret is wind affected. You only get one shot, then your screwed. You deserve the kill if you hit. But usually snipers are the lowest scores, but the most feared.

[MY_FIREMAN_IS_HUGE]

i dont thing the barret is a noob wep, the m79 is.
The barret requires some skills to aim, just dont listen to any dumbass that says u are "cheap"

Yeah, i think the Barret is wind affected. You only get one shot, then your screwed. You deserve the kill if you hit. But usually snipers are the lowest scores, but the most feared.

orly?Most snipers get the highest usually if they know how to snipe.

[Ziem]

orly?Most snipers get the highest usually if they know how to snipe.

In r/s maybe...
Definately not in normal.

[theSTATWHORE]

the barrett has always been one of the most hated because it's a darting one hit kill with range. it's kind of like picking boston in NBA live.

the legit gripes are when people don't get binked.

[Platehead]

They do, except they get lucky most of the time they seem to "not get affected by bink".

[cunchy]

I think barret and m79 dont need skill.
Why do you think all beginers choose them? Major enter in a server and be blasted until he takes m79 or barret and simply click and kill people. Thats why in public servers those weap are like 70-80% of primary weap usage.

Its funny because a good m79er/sniper is very rare, although "they dont need skill".

Sure all you have to do is click and kill but isnt that what you do with all the other guns? <_<;

[STM1993]

Sure all you have to do is click and kill but isnt that what you do with all the other guns? <_<;

Well... when we say point-and-click, we're talking more about the M79. As in, you just point at the enemy, just click once, the person's dead if it hits. That's unlike the other weapons, because you either need to hold down or you have to keep clicking. Even the Barrett now has a startup time, so you must hold down the shoot button and estimate a little, in addition to the fact that the "overcoming movementacc" thing isn't 100% accurate ; there's still a slight inaccuracy and the bullet will still curve a bit after a distance.

[Platehead]

^^
Which is what makes people think M79 is so "cheap".  The only 1 hit killer except chainsaw where you can just click and kill.

Barret is pretty much OK though due to its startup time

[tehsnipah]

I swear, people who actually think m79 is cheap are complete moronic dumbasses. They probably don't know shinyfoo about how to play soldat.

I think Barret should have a more stability when they get shot. It's so easy to get inaccurate even with one shot with socom.

[a-4-year-old]

as long as the wb don't do something stupid like make it so weak it doesn't kill in one hit when you leg shot someone the balance is perfectly fine.

[Cold Hand]

Barret was a perfect weapon until it got those nerfs , charged shoot , movement accuracy and bink.

Then scrubs appeared to deploy an endless river of tears and whining and now it can only be used as a defensive weapon.
Now some will jump here to say " n00b it can be used both ways". I say no.

Rushing with barret is imposible now. Just play againts automatic users with acuracy and reflexes. Bink wont let you hit him. Dont tell me "learn to aim". When you get killed by a barret user after you got 3 of your bullets on him is because of pure luck.


So, you use it to snipe, defensively or to give cover to your teammates. You get almost an instant vote kick.

Thats why its sux"" , because barret users have a better aim and ppl ( rushers ) dont like to be killed by ghost bullets.

Next weapon to be nerfed until its useless: M79