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Offline ~Niko~

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Default maps remake [UPDATED]
« on: August 22, 2007, 10:43:53 am »
I'm doing some remakes of default maps like Lagrange (Did it - SunnyPath)and Bunker. They are good maps but them looks (In my opinion) ugly. So i decided to do some map remakes like X-Tender's Airpirates remake. I ask (My ones)if they will be added in future versions of Soldat. Because they are the most played maps- (Must look ok, the mapmaking is an art)- So I decided to remake some maps (Most poor looking) from Arena to Veoto.. (In my free time) Respecting the original layout. IF they will be replaced by the original ones. I can see our maps (Very good ones, better than the defaults) never will be played in any server, and that's cruel, because we spend a lot of time doing them and nobody enjoy them.

SO post your opinion. If you want support me or not. I'm working on them now, i like it, but if you want a remake of every map somebody must support me. I promise they don't will look ugly  ;).
« Last Edit: August 30, 2007, 12:19:03 pm by ~Niko~ »

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #1 on: August 22, 2007, 10:47:49 am »
If you only intend to improve the looks of the map and not the layout, it would be nice if you made the remade maps as playable as default ones. For example, see VTT's ice version of Arena 2, which can be played as the default map (by replacing the .pms file)


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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #2 on: August 22, 2007, 10:54:26 am »
If you only intend to improve the looks of the map and not the layout, it would be nice if you made the remade maps as playable as default ones. For example, see VTT's ice version of Arena 2, which can be played as the default map (by replacing the .pms file)
That's what I want do, because the polygons/sceneries looking is horrible for my taste. Nobody will play my maps so i'm sad. I love mapmaking buy nobody enjoy it. I respect the layout, I only change the looking.

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #3 on: August 22, 2007, 11:13:58 am »
i hate the airpirates remake. old one wasn't good either but i prefered that one. it has more of the soldat feel to it.. soldat = medium maps, not highq like all the new ones in my opinion..


but still, if you want to remake them just do it :)

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #4 on: August 22, 2007, 01:58:04 pm »
Like TBDM said, if you want to remake them, go right ahead. I'd love to see better looking maps. You'll get the support once we see the results.

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #5 on: August 22, 2007, 02:05:30 pm »
You'll get the support once we see the results.
You can see the Lagrange remake Tomorrow (I hope) I'll post the bunker remake.

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #6 on: August 22, 2007, 02:54:59 pm »
If you want to remake default map, it's alright.
But I don't think they should replace any current map.
Adding them though is another problem.
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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #7 on: August 22, 2007, 04:53:53 pm »
I asked Keron a while back asking if I can help him fix some of the maps, he allowed me and I made back-ups of some of them I think has the worst condition and I sent it to him through his email.  He said I did a nice job with some of them but it wasn't what he was looking for. 

The only thing that I don't like about how the maps have changed is the addition of new scenery like the ones in Bunker and inf_Outpost, it makes the maps look ugly.  But I did appreciate how polygon bugs were fixed and waypoints were revised.  MM, Beta Testers, and Keron would most likely not accept your copies of the default maps.  There really isn't a point to do this, just a waste of time.

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #8 on: August 22, 2007, 05:24:28 pm »
I like how Bunker looks, what I don't like is how you can't get on top of it...
Really I do like how the default maps are, I like the looks and layout (though cambodia's lower section needs to be shrunk).

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #9 on: August 22, 2007, 10:46:42 pm »
The Specialist, there was never new scenery added to Bunker. What you see, except for the polygons blocking the roof (too many people abused it), has always been there.

You may remake any levels if you want, ~Niko~, but if you want them to get into the next version of Soldat they may not be treated any differently than as if custom maps were being added, and may be even stricter (like in looking to see if you fixed any gameplay problems and other facets that could have been improved in the originals).

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #10 on: August 22, 2007, 10:52:32 pm »
What about the smaller bunker.bmps on the sides of the map.  Weren't they added?

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #11 on: August 23, 2007, 01:56:23 am »
Niko, remake inf_Undermine. That map was a great infiltration map, but it had a few too many polybugs.

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #12 on: August 23, 2007, 04:52:07 am »
Niko, remake inf_Undermine. That map was a great infiltration map, but it had a few too many polybugs.

Ask me if you don't have it.

Agreed, it was a really decent map. Better than moonshine.
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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2007, 05:14:03 am »
Niko, remake inf_Undermine. That map was a great infiltration map, but it had a few too many polybugs.
I PM you, I'll see what I can do.

I like how Bunker looks, what I don't like is how you can't get on top of it...
Really I do like how the default maps are, I like the looks and layout (though cambodia's lower section needs to be shrunk).
You will see how it will look.

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #14 on: August 23, 2007, 07:07:36 am »
Agree, some maps need theme, example arena, i think it can be a forest or things like that :D

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #15 on: August 23, 2007, 08:25:20 am »
Really you don't want see the maps remaked? I can't believe only one want see them remaked! What a mapmaking community...  :(

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #16 on: August 23, 2007, 10:00:35 am »
Well firstly I want to see one of your remakes on a custom map. If the others and I like it, I guess you'd have a lot of support. Just remake one, post it up and let us see.
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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #17 on: August 23, 2007, 10:58:26 am »
A custom map? Which? I did the Lagrange remake and was very very well.

Date Posted: 23 August 2007, 17:54:53
I'm remaking bunker. You will see it soon.

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #18 on: August 23, 2007, 04:02:05 pm »
What about the smaller bunker.bmps on the sides of the map.  Weren't they added?
Those have always been there. The ONLY changes there have been in the past are what I did into v1.4, that you can find in the Maps Change-log. I never added any scenery to Bunker if that's what you're implying; I only tweaked the waypoints, a few colliders, and some polygon structure.

That Lagrange remake is actually pretty nice, ~Niko~... I just don't like the sun at all. It makes the screen too yellow IMO :P But that's just my personal preference

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Re: Default maps remake
« Reply #19 on: August 23, 2007, 04:05:13 pm »
I've must have remebered wrong then, they should be removed eitherway because they are unnecessary and makes the map look ugly.