Avarax servers; childish

[GAMEOVER]

Never in my 3 years ish + or - of play have I seen a more immature "looked up" to figure amongst this community since someones trainer making days. Today.. I enter a script server just playing minding my own buis when this obnoxious player named squall SD something whines about spawning. I simply stay stop crying man and just pull out a knife when you spawn then shut up. This admin; who at the time claimed to be Avarax, completely just sat there acting like he was some god because of his admin power. Then blurted my name and password all over the server to my acct. All for just saying go spawn with a knife and pop a spawner. I have screens to prove it and the 3 or so things I only said if needed.

I posted this topic in hopes of-
1) Finding out if it was indeed Avarax.
2) Give feedback to a community that is growing in age as to what they may expierence in such a server if they so choose to take part in it.

Being 24, having my own familly, paying my own bills, I have better things then to sit here and lie about this so to the person(s) responsable, I expect to see it cleaned up if you wish to gain the communitys respect as say Leo and his RS servers. I understand this is a new, popular, game mode being heavyly played with communitys developing for it. So this post will either-

1) Inform Avarax or the head server admin about the incident to take necessary action.
-or
2) Show other older players who have been around longer then just this new forums age what they may expect if they want to have fun in such a server.

[SirJamesaford]

Speaking of immature arent you the guy who says everyfuckingtime you enter a server that your "a proven soldat player and this server is full of unskilled noobs"....

[GAMEOVER]

Uh nope, have a screen of such? ..ask the clan community- I been MIA every spring and summer for years and I come back every fall. I dont play as much as I use to and use a diff nick to avoid the attn this names draws. Hiding my nick for this purpose, that last thing I would do is say who I was. I did in the incedant of this post though.. hoping an expierenced players input would be looked at for what it was. Unless I was inhaIe it wasnt me. Judgeing by your warning level on here for an obvious immature or negative thing you did spoted by a responsable admin such as FLAB etc, id say your not off to a good start as a new player..

[SirJamesaford]

LOL LIES LIES LIES.....but w/e orange hair duder

[GAMEOVER]

LOL LIES LIES LIES.....but w/e orange hair duder

Yeah 24 year olds with famillys and known relationships in the community is just going to go split personality on you because your special.. I got better things to do, take this topic as you will. Im talking with Ava in PMs.

[DePhille]

This happens a lot at other servers too. And like you said, "I have better things to do", so I really suggest you just ignore such behaviour. The server is owned by the admin and he or she may do whatever he/she likes to. Also, I don't see why you hide your nick . I get recognised too, and I like it, it always starts a good conversation between the players. And that is what Soldat lacks these days, so I find myself very lucky to get in such conversations.

I really doubt if it was Avarax. If it was then he must have had a good reason, of that I'm sure.

Grtz, DePhille

[GAMEOVER]

He'll be posting soon.

Even if some guy came in there and directly talked trash to him for no reason he shouldnt be as immature to go post their acct and password all over the server and thats the bottem line.

You may like the attn DePhille but I do not and dont usually have more then a half hour at a time to play. So id rather play then strike up a convo with someone who knows me. Thats why I do the name thing.

This happens a lot at other servers too. And like you said, "I have better things to do", so I really suggest you just ignore such behaviour.

Well I and most do ignore such but with a community being developed for his servers I wasnt sure if it was him or some immature admin he put in charge. So feedback is always good. I assumed it was someone else because ive talked to him before and he never acted that way. It was indeed him though as I see in PMs he'll be posting to clear it up from what I understand. After stateing my name, expierence, and position on the topic that was being discussed I expected a debate of some sort in regards to the topic at hand "spawners" but instead I just got jumped on and left completely confused as to what in the hell just happend and why im being singled out by this admin. So either it was miscommunication or w/e.

From the PMs I have it sounds like he feels I did something wrong yet knows he was wrong by taking it that far. Thats just what I get so far. Ill check back later im taking my kid out.

Later

[Will]

Such a shame people who only want to have fun and play soldat for years have to endure things like this. I remember  a long time ago, when TW only started and I played a lot of it, avarax was very reasonable and clear headed. Maybe he just had a bad day or something, happens to everyone.

Not that I'm trying to defend anyone, it was not the purpose of this post.

[SirJamesaford]

LOL LIES LIES LIES.....but w/e orange hair duder

Yeah 24 year olds with famillys and known relationships in the community is just going to go split personality on you because your special.. I got better things to do, take this topic as you will. Im talking with Ava in PMs.

Never said it was just me....you do it to everyone and you know it....to deny it is retarded.  Every two seconds its a "OWN U NUB" or a "NOONE IN HERE IS SKILLED EXCEPT ME BECAUSE IM A PROVEN PLAYER".....its just annoying...

[Avarax]

Aight just to clear some things up.

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Begin of the story:
Quintinon highlights me on IRC and tells me to do something about the hexer server:
<Quintinon> ava can you get on and kick and or ban this spawn killer(5 rounds in a row runs threw us)

(Note: Intentional spawnkilling is not allowed on both Hexer servers, non-intentional (like running through the base on ctf_Ash to get to the flag and then spawnkilling) is.)

I take a look at the ARSSE console and then start making the rules clear in what I think is a very friendly way:
(21:50:41) /say Spawnkilling with intention is NOT allowed.
(21:50:44) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] u go get enemy flag u get it u can kil lbut u lEAVE
(21:50:53) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] tif enemy doesnt have ur flag u dont go in his base n kill
(21:51:06) /say If you really need to enter the spawn area, leave it as fast as possible again.
(21:51:10) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] if enemy does have ur flag but flag isnt in his base u dont attack his base

Then, GAMEOVER raises his voice under the nick "inhaIe":

(21:51:35) [inhaIe] IF YOU CANT KILL SPAWNERS THEN YOU SUCK
(21:51:38) [inhaIe] ITS THAT SIMPLE

I must say I do actually kind of agree on that, but spawnkilling in my eyes is a result of unbalanced teams, which can involve the one team sucking (so what?), and gives an even greater disadvantage to the team being spawnkilled. Furtheremore, GAMEOVER didn't really choose the kind way of telling people his oppinion. But hey... let's procede.

(21:51:48) [Quintinon] hard to kill something that you cant shoot cuz you die before you can fire
(21:51:52) /say Inhale that's only partly true
(21:52:07) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] wasnt inhale spawning yesterday :o xD
(21:52:25) /say The fact that spawnkilling happens usually means that teams are unbalanced
(21:52:28) /say Plus
(21:52:47) /say Spawnkilling gives an initial advantage to the spawnkillers
(21:53:03) /say Like: m79s are loaded, the spawning team's ones are not.

...a small discussion about the vote% on the server starts...
(21:54:41) [Quintinon] you should disable vote kicking unless your logged into an account lvl
(21:54:58) /say That's not possible
(21:55:09) /say Too bad it isn't
(21:55:17) [inhaIe] admin dont even listen to these inexpierenced players
(21:55:22) [inhaIe] theyll just mess everything up
(21:55:24) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] oh stfu inhale
(21:55:29) [inhaIe] tlike they have balances in past versions
(21:55:36) /say I could however set up a pseudo vote system
(21:55:51) /say A player with minimum lvl 10 account says
(21:56:14) [inhaIe] ADMIN read what i said
(21:56:19) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] no
(21:56:23) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] u dont help in anyway
(21:56:22) /say And then the server starts a kickvote for him... note how I've been ignorring him up to this point...
(21:56:26) [inhaIe] dude stfu
(21:56:32) [inhaIe] i been around this game for years
(21:56:32) [inhaIe] i'm GAMEOVER .

...my hand starts gently gripping my beloved banhammer...

(21:56:38) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] wer tryin to fix spawncampers
(21:56:41) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] ur tryin to stop that
(21:56:45) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] suuuspiciousss
(21:57:01) [inhaIe] W/e WHINE
(21:57:15) /say Inhale -1 lvl for you because you piss me and others off
(21:57:15) /insertsecretlevelreductioncommandhere
(21:57:32) [inhaIe]  R U SERIOUS
(21:57:45) /say I IS SERUIS!!1
(21:57:50) [inhaIe] whats your name
(21:57:55) /say Avarax
(21:58:03) [Quintinon] i asked ava to get on cuz of spawn killers
(21:58:12) [inhaIe] dude that is lame .
(21:58:27) [inhaIe] you minus an expierenced pro vetern player for disagreeing imagine me laughing out loud here.
(21:58:27) [inhaIe] wow
(21:58:29) /say The way you talk is lame.
(21:58:40) [inhaIe] how so
(21:59:01) /say Quote: [inhaIe] W/e WHINE
(21:59:06) [inhaIe] omg no i havent lol this is the 2nd time i played with this name
(21:59:09) [inhaIe] IM  GAMEOVER ./
(21:59:11) /say and more of that kind referring to my previous quote here
(21:59:16) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] u was on a few days ago spawning
(21:59:21) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] and we argued over it
(21:59:23) [inhaIe] wow dude you lie
(21:59:23) /say And I'M AVA and I don't care :o
(21:59:48) [inhaIe] do what you want ava.. your script
(22:00:20) [inhaIe] spawning can be easyly delt with by spawning with a knife and hitting them
(22:00:21) [inhaIe] its so easy
(22:00:28) [inhaIe] tand your crying squall?
(22:00:35) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] i only cry when u spawn
(22:00:48) /say Inhale spawnkill countering is not really possible anymore since 1.4.2
(22:00:53) [inhaIe] this is the 1st time i played in this server with this name
(22:00:55) [inhaIe] tava go look
(22:01:00) [inhaIe] tyoull see hes lieing
(22:01:01) /say You can't throw the knife anymore while blinking after respawn
(22:01:15) /say Inhale I really don't care who you are
(22:01:26) /say I'd punish anyone acting like this
(22:01:33) [inhaIe] acting like what!?
(22:01:39) [Quintinon] like you?
(22:01:42) [inhaIe] i simply called him out on a lie
(22:01:46) [inhaIe] he said i was spawning
(22:01:54) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] u was spawnin when u played a fewdays ago
(22:01:54) [inhaIe] this is my 1st time in this server on this name
(22:01:55) /say :-|
(22:01:56) [inhaIe] go look ava
(22:02:16) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] inhale ur level 12
(22:02:17) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] 13
(22:02:20) [inhaIe] this is my 3rd map and i been talking yet im spawning
(22:02:21) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] first time on this server?
(22:02:29) [inhaIe] you can lvl up under diff names
(22:02:34) [inhaIe] you just login with your main acct
(22:02:35) [inhaIe] ffs
(22:02:46) [inhaIe] ava go check
(22:02:47) [inhaIe] youll se
(22:02:49) /say Dude
(22:02:50) [inhaIe] im tellin the truth
(22:02:56) /say I don't care
(22:02:59) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] xD
(22:03:08) /say I know you are the oh so great GAMEOVER
(22:03:20) /say But that doesn't change anything
(22:03:23) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] and no oen cares?
(22:03:24) /say not at all.
(22:03:43) [inhaIe] dude why you bringin that up i just caught this guy in a lie and your taklking about
(22:03:45) [inhaIe] what?
(22:03:47) [inhaIe] my name?
(22:03:52) /say Either you shut up and be happy that I didn't delete your account...

...now he's got me mad :D I guess this is the part that he refers to as "childish"...

(22:03:52) [inhaIe] stay on subject
(22:04:03) [inhaIe] fine w/e
(22:04:16) /say or... or... I'll come rape your dog!
(22:04:34) /say If you don't have a dog, I'm gonna rape your cat
(22:04:54) [inhaIe] i dont believe your ava PM me on soldat forums
(22:05:11) /say duh.
(22:05:18) /say just... wagh!
(22:05:34) /say You're one of the most challenging R-tards I ever encountered  oh noes, i actually insulted him :(
(22:05:38) [Quintinon] and if he wanted to he could say your acc name/pword to prove it
(22:06:15) /say On the other hand my Banhammer ready to knock you out
(22:06:27) /say And I'd love to, really
(22:07:04) /say Good Idea actually
(22:07:09) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] what
(22:07:16) /say [Quintinon] and if he wanted to he could say your acc name/pword to prove it
(22:07:19) /say sec.

...I then told the whole accountname and password to the entire server. I apologize for doing this, I should not have done that. I basically abused my access to the account database with unencrypted passwords. I am of course willing to restore your account with the same level you had before as an apologize (I've backed your account up). But wait, the conversation is not completly done yet.

(22:08:11) /say There you go ppl
(22:08:14) [Quintinon] lol
(22:08:14) [RagnorakSquall {SD}] YAY
(22:08:14) /say Have fun
(22:08:17) /say haha.
(22:08:48) [inhaIe] you just buryed your reputation amongst all honorable players
(22:08:51) [inhaIe] later
(22:08:56) inhaIe has left alpha team.
(22:08:57) /say Ciao.

[SirJamesaford]

OMG Gameover you played under inhale yesterday...if it was yesterday then it was the day before....so YOUR the liar and not rag...Way to go avarax...i hate this guy anyway.

[Avarax]

It's not that he's all that bad, I just wanted to keep the Hexer servers in honor.

[LtKillroy]

Wow that was really something, talk about your wall of text. Anyway don't even say Avarex was being childish if what he says is true, it is very hypocritical and makes you look retarded.

[Demonic]

GO, GO... is it me or do you really make an asshole out of yourself every time you make a return? ( not just here, on Fracs too ) Drama queen.

[SirJamesaford]

You should see this guy play...hes always saying hes pro and everyone else sucks....its the most annoying thing in soldat.

(offtopic:  Ive trained myself not to spawnkill so much lol havent got bitched at all day lol)

[Eagles_Arrows]

Ironic much?

[SirJamesaford]

Ironic much?

Whats ironic?  the fact that i spawnkill too?  If so the spawnkilling rule wasnt made "official" untill the other day...or at least thats when people started caring about it....so i had to train myself not to.

[BondJamesBond]

hehe. This guy reminds of me of the player 'niceguy' remember him?

[LtKillroy]

This topic reminded me of some other stuff about people complaining about guys named GAMEOVER from various clans. Don't know if they all are real but I can think of various occosionally see people named GAMEOVER or other names then saying they are GAMEOVER after sucking, amking fun of people for being noobs, being made fun of back, and then, like I said, saying he was GAMEOVER then leaving. Very annoying.

[Avarax]

Very annoying.

Very amusing if you ask me