Ladies

[Brock]

Brock has always had major issues with ladies.  About 5 months back, I finally secured my 1st real girlyfriend, named Michelle.  I met her after bumping into her at various places in my school.  She gets 90 or more in all subjects, she's got a smoking hot body, she has great taste in music, and is very funny when shes not in a bad mood, plus she's really easy to talk to and such, usually.  I usually say no to asking girls out / them asking me out, etc, because I knew how bad I am with ladies.  But I try anyways.

I regret that decsion immensly because of the simple fact that whenever I get relatively close to a girl I like, I start to act all wierd and such.  I did that in grade 9, and I thought by grade 11 (last year) I would over that.  Not so.  I can't even hold hands with girls I like simply because I get so damn shaky and nervous that I pipe up and stop saying stuff.  Either that or start saying really stupid things.

Anyways, so that lasted 6 days.  I of couse was heartbroken, although I would never show that to her.  And now, I'm in grade 12 and I know for a fact I won't find another special lady for at least 3-5 years...  It wouldn't be so bad if my ex (Who I still talk to and hang out with occassionally) didn't keep reminding of what "could have been".  Seems every time I go over to visit her, she starts talking about her new boytoy, named Rob.  I know Rob, and I don't mind him at all, but it's how every time shes either talking about how they make out basically every single day.  A couple of times, when I'm visiting with 'er she brings Rob over and they start to kiss, right in front of me  o_o.  I don't know if I have ever experienced more emotional pain in my life.  Every day, she keeps reminding of what I'm missing out and never going to get back.  She seems to fail to realize the fact that I'm by no means "grade-A" dating material.  I'm not even half as good looking as her, not nearly as smart, not nearly as athletic, or funny in most cases.

Anyways, the point of all this, is that for once in my life I really do feel utterly depressed about something involving women.  Usually I couldn't care less.  But every waking moment I keep thinking about what I ****ed up on.
*sigh*

What should I do guys?



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I can't believe I'm actually asking y'all.





---Sorry for writing so much as well.  >_>   I just had to tell someone, other than my parents, because I'm not sure they know what it's like to date anymore.

[jrgp]

First of all, ditch and ignore your ex.

Second, You need confidence. Not being a strait A student is very irrelevant. Just try to see the good parts of life and ignore stuff that isn't very important but that makes you sad.

Third, whenever your with a girl, don't worry about saying stupid things, just TALK. It doesn't matter if it's just random BS you just pulled out of your ass on-the-fly. The important part is not to be silent to the point of making the chick think your a serial killer. (I have gone through this)

Fourth, try to not get nervous. If you ask a girl out and she says no, just forget about it and ask someone else. There are so many ****ing chicks in the sea, man. Also, there are more Women then men and I heard that in the future it will be very common for men to have multiple wives as the ratio of women to men is increasing.

other than my parents, because I'm not sure they know what it's like to date anymore.

I'm sure they do. I mean, once you find out how to date and date often, do you REALLY think your going to forget in a few decades? ****, no. They went through the same exact stuff your going through now. Don't let yourself feel alone because everyone is (or was) going through this.

[The Geologist]

^^ Agreed.

Sounds like she's either just messing with you or totally ignorant.  Either way, drop that baggage and move on.  No need to hang around her to just keep getting yourself beat down whenever she makes it a point to drag her new boy toy around.

Also, screw your preconceptions and habits.  If you like a girl( I mean really like her, not that wishy washy crap "Oh I get this feeling" b.s.), then just take her hand when the time comes, strike a conversation when need be.  Just DO it.  Actions speak louder than words, thankfully, because the words are often stupid in those sorts of situations. 

I say it because I was once in the same situation.  You can't walk towards the setting sun forever, so turn your eyes to the new horizon. 

[ThunderPantz]

Brock, you think that's bad? I am a very shy person and i havent had a girlfriend in 6 years. Nobody likes the smart, silent types anymore.Although i couldn't care more sometimes, and i couldn't care less, other times. even being talked to by girls makes me stutter. And sometimes people come up to me and ask why i have no friends i hang out with. i never get up the courage to tell them that nobody wants to visit my house or me to visit them.  Also i choose not to have friends that i visit often because it is a waste of time. and i have important stuff to do. But people just imagine things about me when they see me sitting on the bench right next to my next class. They think I'm emo because i have a poor disposition and black/green hair. What a bugger my life is.

[SirJamesaford]

You have to realize that she's bringing him over and doing that shit in front of you on purpose lol  I swear to god she is man.  Sounds like a bitch to me.  Fuck being depressed about it.  Be mad!!!!

(dont ever listen to me lol)

[ThunderPantz]

You have to realize that she's bringing him over and doing that **** in front of you on purpose lol  I swear to god she is man.  Sounds like a ***** to me.  **** being depressed about it.  Be mad!!!!

(dont ever listen to me lol)

Well then he should shoot the *****. End her ****ing life. I will make millions when I invent a hallmark card that fires a bullet at whoever opens it.

[The Geologist]

You have to realize that she's bringing him over and doing that **** in front of you on purpose lol  I swear to god she is man.  Sounds like a ***** to me.  **** being depressed about it.  Be mad!!!!

(dont ever listen to me lol)

Well then he should shoot the *****. End her ****ing life. I will make millions when I invent a hallmark card that fires a bullet at whoever opens it.

Wow..that's just...creepy and sadistic.  I hope you were joking; if not, you're messed up.

[SirJamesaford]

You have to realize that she's bringing him over and doing that **** in front of you on purpose lol  I swear to god she is man.  Sounds like a ***** to me.  **** being depressed about it.  Be mad!!!!

(dont ever listen to me lol)

Well then he should shoot the *****. End her ****ing life. I will make millions when I invent a hallmark card that fires a bullet at whoever opens it.

Can i pre-order 2 of em?

[ThunderPantz]

well i was joking, i would just beat her. But i wasn't joking about the hallmark cards

[Vltava]

Also, there are more Women then men and I heard that in the future it will be very common for men to have multiple wives as the ratio of women to men is increasing.

Warren Jeffs, is that you?

[Cloud Fox]

Yeah! go ThunderPantz!

Brock, I think you should get yeself a girlfriend and do what ever that Michelle person's been doing to yah. That'll teach her.

Oh yeah, when you go close to a girl you like, just forget that you like her and talk to her like a normal friend.

[echo_trail]

First of all, ditch and ignore your ex.

Second, You need confidence. Not being a strait A student is very irrelevant. Just try to see the good parts of life and ignore stuff that isn't very important but that makes you sad.

Third, whenever your with a girl, don't worry about saying stupid things, just TALK. It doesn't matter if it's just random BS you just pulled out of your ass on-the-fly. The important part is not to be silent to the point of making the chick think your a serial killer. (I have gone through this)

Fourth, try to not get nervous. If you ask a girl out and she says no, just forget about it and ask someone else. There are so many ****ing chicks in the sea, man. Also, there are more Women then men and I heard that in the future it will be very common for men to have multiple wives as the ratio of women to men is increasing.

other than my parents, because I'm not sure they know what it's like to date anymore.

I'm sure they do. I mean, once you find out how to date and date often, do you REALLY think your going to forget in a few decades? ****, no. They went through the same exact stuff your going through now. Don't let yourself feel alone because everyone is (or was) going through this.

^^ Agreed.

Sounds like she's either just messing with you or totally ignorant.  Either way, drop that baggage and move on.  No need to hang around her to just keep getting yourself beat down whenever she makes it a point to drag her new boy toy around.

Also, screw your preconceptions and habits.  If you like a girl( I mean really like her, not that wishy washy crap "Oh I get this feeling" b.s.), then just take her hand when the time comes, strike a conversation when need be.  Just DO it.  Actions speak louder than words, thankfully, because the words are often stupid in those sorts of situations. 

I say it because I was once in the same situation.  You can't walk towards the setting sun forever, so turn your eyes to the new horizon. 

Listen to these guys, mate. I agree 100% here, well, maybe 'cept for the parents thing. I don't think that parent just go and forget how it was back in their day, but times has moved on now, and dating know is probably much unlike the way it was back then. I know there's alot of basic stuff that I'm sure that your folks would be more than happy to tell you about, but the dance just isn't quite the same, I'll bet.
Other than that; They're you parents! They can only provide you with so much wisdom. And no matter how well intendet, the guidance they give you will always have a touch of "you're-our-baby-ism", you know?

But when it really comes down to it, no one can tell you how to act and feel. Talking to your mates about things would definitely be a good idea, and coming out here on the forums weeren't so bad either(As you can see, it brings out the best in [some] people). But brother, you've got to makwe your own decisions and experiences. You might feel like she broke your heart back then, and she really might've, but she provided something much more valuable than painfull: Experience and knowledge of how to reach to certain things in the future.
Believe me mate, I have been there as well. I've had my heart broken in a serious manor atleast once. So much, in fact, that I was very, VERY close to ending my own life. At the time I just couldn't see the light at the end of the tunnel, and I really didn't feel like searching on. All of the sudden I dragged my self out of that shit, and today I feel great

I'm not exactly a looker, and even though I weren't born yesterday, I don't know how to make up those killer punchlines that'll just knock the ladies over on your bed. So, what of it? I don't care, and it doesn't matter. I have a shitload of confidence, pretty much because I'm ot afraid to get hurt. I know that some girl might dump me, and I know I'm gonna feel dumb about it and embarrased, but I also know that it's okay to do so, and that I'll get over it eventually. ...So will you!

Ain't no reason to be running scared all the time, mate. Love is just a mysterious complex of twilight feelings no one knows how to handle. It's natural to get hurt, 'cause being in love feels so superhuman, and you feel like you're incapable of handeling it. That's also what makes it so good, you know? he adrenaline, the rush of achieving something that feels so much bigger than you. Don't stop chasing that, and don't be the chain around your own angle, mate. Love is definitely worth going for..

So, up and at'em tiger
echo_trail

Oh, and about your ex.. You gotta come clean to her. tell her how you feel and that she should shut the fuck up. Otherwise, ditch her! If she doesn't understand that, she ain't worth a bucket of piss!

Tar tar!

[Dascoo]

I gave up on ladies ;_;

They just want to be friends.

[Mitak]

Lul I actually tried to do something when I moved to another school in 8th grade - some girl back then seemed really sweet to me. She was smart as well.
In a new situation I was acting weird (the school, ma classmates, teachers) and suddenly she pops up with her gang and they start terrorizing me to write letters with'em - write one and pass by some mediator.
They wanted to know whether I like her @_@ I was like "Omgoink, what manly biotches". It surely beets yo ass off when a gang of girls makes you give your GSM numbah. I was dumb enough to do that and the next few weeks I got about 30-40 messages. I tried to write with her privately and did, but looks like the ***** was just puffed up and whatever information got near her or themz, the entire floor understood within minutes.
So that's how we contunued until late winter - some week before New Year 2007.
Then she suddenly started insulting me (Because I didn't pay her any attention, of course ) and I insulted back XD
My school is well-known of its bietches and kurwas so... You might say I was prepared for that moment.
After one year the ***** was in another school and I barely got to see it. But when that happened I just looked the other way.
Heh, the fault was in me coz I didn't do the first step, and in her for showing off every piece of intelligence to like the entire 2-nd floor (Where we studied). That girl is still a giant kurwass.

Brock, I surely can't give any advice that would not sound noobish to someone who's 2-3 years bigger but I think she's doing that on purpouse. Come on, what kind of insensible ***** would that be to kiss with her new toy infront of you? Either you've harmed her like hell (Which I don't believe) or she's just some easy girl that changes boys like toys.

But whoa. Shaking when you get close to a girl?
What are they anyway? Some 1 m shorter, long-haired and maked up till zombioid look, sometimes having the balconies which can scrape the ground infront of them, and sometimes (as we call them in our country) - wallpapers (titless gurlz).

That's when I started hating most of girls and that made me insensible. I can also very well hide my emotions so I have no probs. But I still haven't got a girlfriend, nor a girl-friend. I don't see the sense.
They just waste your time. Unless it's a stable relationship, it's a waste of time (money-for *****es) and brain cells.

As we people say:
"Live fo' today cuz there might not be a tomorrow and yestaday won't return"

[Shivorken]

Nobody likes the smart, silent types anymore.

This is the exact category I fall into. But when it comes to ladies, I, like Brock, am very inexperienced and nervous when it comes to talking to ladies. You guys have great advice, telling him to be confident and just grab a perfect opportunity and to just TALK to them. Seriously, If Brock is in the same situation I’m in, it’s very, very hard to do anything.

This is sorta off topic and I don’t want to create a new topic so I’m gonna interfere in yours Brock. If you want it removed, ask. 

I got quite a few hot lady friends who I talk to regularly but I’m used to them and they study with me and we normally go to empty classrooms during breaks and stuff, just the two of us, but I don’t get shaky or nervous or anything. This other time I was on the bus however, I sat next to a beautiful chick who I could see from the corner of my eyes (and times when I turn around to look out the window) that she had her eyes on me the whole time and FUK, I got nervous as hell and my hand started to shake a little but not too noticeably. Ever since I broke with an ex 3 years ago, I just couldn’t ever get the courage or confidence to look a girl straight in the eye, even if I know that they like me. When I mean by I know they like me, I have noticed either
- lust full gaze
- overheard them talking about me
- hear from a lady friend
- placed themselves artfully in my line of site, given my attention grabbing looks and then proceeded to give me a fantastic view.

I still just cannot bring the courage to talk up with a chick I don’t know too well. I’m sure Brock probably feels this way too and what you guys need to give is advice on how to overcome shyness. I really fkin hate myself for this crappy trait I have 

[Mitak]

Nobody likes the smart, silent types anymore.

This is the exact category I fall into. But when it comes to ladies, I, like Brock, am very inexperienced and nervous when it comes to talking to ladies. You guys have great advice, telling him to be confident and just grab a perfect opportunity and to just TALK to them. Seriously, If Brock is in the same situation I’m in, it’s very, very hard to do anything.

This is sorta off topic and I don’t want to create a new topic so I’m gonna interfere in yours Brock. If you want it removed, ask. 

I got quite a few hot lady friends who I talk to regularly but I’m used to them and they study with me and we normally go to empty classrooms during breaks and stuff, just the two of us, but I don’t get shaky or nervous or anything. This other time I was on the bus however, I sat next to a beautiful chick who I could see from the corner of my eyes (and times when I turn around to look out the window) that she had her eyes on me the whole time and FUK, I got nervous as hell and my hand started to shake a little but not too noticeably. Ever since I broke with an ex 3 years ago, I just couldn’t ever get the courage or confidence to look a girl straight in the eye, even if I know that they like me. When I mean by I know they like me, I have noticed either
- lust full gaze
- overheard them talking about me
- hear from a lady friend
- placed themselves artfully in my line of site, given my attention grabbing looks and then proceeded to give me a fantastic view.

I still just cannot bring the courage to talk up with a chick I don’t know too well. I’m sure Brock probably feels this way too and what you guys need to give is advice on how to overcome shyness. I really fkin hate myself for this crappy trait I have 

I'm shy too. It's not hard to hide your emotions but then the chicks will think that you're indifferent. They like more when ya shake
I have this gift that helps me A LOT while talking to people I don't like, or watching someone I like - I can somehow DEFOCUS my eyes at will @_@ It's strange but that's how you actually don't see their eyes well, and you feel like they see you the same way, so you're kinda "protected" as if you were looking at them from the other side of a smashed dirty window. But then I kinda feel unhonest - no matter for them you look at their eyes. You don't actually see their eyes very clear

You can't avoid shyness - it occurs to everyone the first times. Then you realize it just slows you down and foinks up the good emotions you can experience.
And when you feel shy - think about the reward you'll get if you get over it that moment - think about future with this girl, or how you play Soldat or whatever you like.
Talk to her as if you talk to your friends (boys). Be careful - You don't wanna sound like a professor or a gangzta junkie. Chill within the limits.
 

[Carlitos]

One tip:

If u like a girl and not shure if she likes you, DONT GRAB her out of nowhere! Has i done that 2 years ago


Just relax man, take it easy. I now in this situations is hard to talk...but dont worry in saying something or whatever. Its better them to be quiet the rest of the day

[Brock]

The thing is you guys, that she still wants to be friends with me as far as I can tell.  An it's not like I can just stop seeing her, even if I wanted to, she's in some of my classes still.  >_>

[jrgp]

The thing is you guys, that she still wants to be friends with me as far as I can tell.  An it's not like I can just stop seeing her, even if I wanted to, she's in some of my classes still.  >_>

Tell her that you do not care about the two of you's previous relationships and really wish that she wouldn't keep bringing it up since it hurts your feelings.

[Mitak]

Past is past.
Move on.
Simple as that.

Wow I'm the liar