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Offline Dascoo

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Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« on: July 11, 2006, 10:09:49 pm »
Answer the question......I'm pretty sure, actually 90% sure it can't.

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2006, 10:16:31 pm »
no it cant since no oxygen=no spark. but you could use one of those new 20-50 feet long magnetic poswered pistol that can shoot 10X as far as a pistol.

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2006, 10:49:34 pm »
You can fire one underwater. I think if there is some oxygen in teh bullet then it will fire. not dure about this one. Ask peemonkey, he knows guns.

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2006, 10:54:52 pm »
Yes you can, why would you think you cannot?
The explosion all happens within the cartridge, correct? so what stops the hammer from falling and striking the primer? nothin. what stops the primer from sparking and setting off the charge of smokeless powder? nothing. what stops the gas build-up (explosion) from pushing the bullet out as it normally would? nothing.

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2006, 10:57:10 pm »
There's oxygen in water

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2006, 10:57:34 pm »
Yes you can, why would you think you cannot?
The explosion all happens within the cartridge, correct? so what stops the hammer from falling and striking the primer? nothin. what stops the primer from sparking and setting off the charge of smokeless powder? nothing. what stops the gas build-up (explosion) from pushing the bullet out as it normally would? nothing.

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2006, 10:59:07 pm »
sadist, water+smokeless powder=dud
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dascoo, please give me your logic on how it would not fire.
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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2006, 11:04:16 pm »
true. all i know about guns is that they're awesome, and i'm not as accurate with a rifle as i am with a pistol.


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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2006, 11:33:39 pm »
How can you be less accurate with a rifle?  You must be doing something wrong...either that, or you didn't realize that you usually place the target further away when you shoot with a rifle.

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #9 on: July 11, 2006, 11:37:57 pm »
In a vacuum?
That heavily depends on what kind of gun. You should be able to fire a LAW in space because of the propulsion system used, but I'm not sure, I'd have to double check.
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Nope, I don't think it can. But I did find an interesting scrap of information that contributes to Soldat's lack of true realism:
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Once fired, the launcher is no longer useful and may be discarded. Due to the single use nature of the weapon, it was issued as a round of ammunition by the Canadian Army and the US Army.
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But, yeah, as far as I know, only certain types of guns can be fired in a vacuum.
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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #10 on: July 11, 2006, 11:42:57 pm »
Please, use words, or die.

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2006, 11:49:29 pm »
How can you be less accurate with a rifle?  You must be doing something wrong...either that, or you didn't realize that you usually place the target further away when you shoot with a rifle.

I don't quite know why, honestly. I'm positive i'm not doing anything wrong, i just prefer pistols to rifles. I like how you hold pistols out in front of you, rather than shouldering rifles. I can hit a soda can at fifty yards with my dad's Taurus magnum (early version of a tracker.)

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #12 on: July 12, 2006, 12:21:53 am »
What peemonkey said.

I don't think a shotgun is able to fire in a vaccum though, only clips and magizines, not shells.

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #13 on: July 12, 2006, 12:27:00 am »
sadist, water+smokeless powder=dud
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dascoo, please give me your logic on how it would not fire.
I thought oxygen is needed for the gunpowder to ignite? Seems that i'm not thinking properly.Or am I right? I don't really trust you peemonkry on this one :P

Now guys, lets stay on topic about if a pistol can be shot in a vacuum, not discuss whether a rifle is les accurate then a pistol, even though thats stupid.....

EDIT: Alright, I forgot gunpowder has some sort of oxidizer in it so um eh....topic closed? Or are we gonna keep on disussing shooting guns in space?
« Last Edit: July 12, 2006, 12:30:15 am by Dascoo »

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #14 on: July 12, 2006, 12:44:45 am »
The explosion is happening inside the sealed cartridge, so the outside doesn't matter if there's a vacuum or not. once the explosion has happened, the bullet is on it's way. It's like if you have a structure(bullet+casing seal) in space (vacuum) with dynamite in it, with the right heat, the TNT(gunpowder inside sealed casing) would ignight and go off.

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #15 on: July 12, 2006, 12:54:57 am »

Why wouldn't you trust meh, dasc?

Because you touch yourself at night.
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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #16 on: July 12, 2006, 12:58:57 am »
sadist, water+smokeless powder=dud
EDIT:
dascoo, please give me your logic on how it would not fire.
I thought oxygen is needed for the gunpowder to ignite? Seems that i'm not thinking properly.Or am I right? I don't really trust you peemonkry on this one :P
Explosions can not occur underwater. Can fire burn underwater? I think that's kind of obvious, but maybe not to you, so I will provide you with the correct response: liek hel no
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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #17 on: July 12, 2006, 01:00:08 am »
I have a person I give food and housing to that does that for me.

^Explosions CAN occur underwater. Dude.

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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #18 on: July 12, 2006, 01:04:11 am »
Well. Um. Not like...
When they're not in watertight containers.
And you're right, they can. What was I thinking? I should be in bed.
But the trigger for gunpowder to go off cannot occur. Um, right? Fire has no place in there.
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Re: Can a pistol be fired in a vacuum
« Reply #19 on: July 12, 2006, 01:10:11 am »
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Explosions can not occur underwater. Can fire burn underwater? I think that's kind of obvious, but maybe not to you, so I will provide you with the correct response: liek hel no

During 2004 olympics they designed that little torch **** to actually burn underwater and few divers with scuba gear were swimming with it, while it was burning.


And about explosion, check this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=z4WtzEBLEj8&search=underwater%20explosion

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