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Offline LtKillroy

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Knife Damage
« on: October 03, 2007, 06:58:30 pm »
Why doesn't knife stabs kill in one hit? They don't get hardly any kills anyway, so why not make it kill in one hit so people can goof around. It's not that big of a deal, but I think it would be a lot of fun.
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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2007, 06:59:38 pm »
Knife stabs do kill in one hit dont they?  Maybe hexer is corrupting your mind killroy lol
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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #2 on: October 04, 2007, 09:51:06 am »
Sometimes when you throw your knife and hit anyone, it doesn't kills! Your enemy got still ~10% hp... can this be fixed? Or was like a attempt to make possible survive to a knife hit?
You can hardly ever use knife as a close combat (With stabs) weapon, is more effective throw it...

A day i kill a dude with saw going ultra fast to me, but (With a lot of luck) i stab him.... (With knife!!!)

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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #3 on: October 04, 2007, 10:03:43 am »
Knife kills are only supposed to 1-hit-kill if you charge them up a bit, enemies surviving a weak throw isn't a glitch.
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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #4 on: October 04, 2007, 10:04:48 am »
It's not a bug, it's just lack of knifes speed.

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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #5 on: October 04, 2007, 11:03:28 am »
It's not a bug, it's just lack of knifes speed.
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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #6 on: October 04, 2007, 11:40:50 am »
One stab knife kill would be stupid - nobody would use chainsaw anymore.

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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #7 on: October 04, 2007, 03:16:01 pm »
One stab knife kill would be stupid - nobody would use chainsaw anymore.
Chainsaw is like ten times longer. And I mean stab, not throw.
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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #8 on: October 04, 2007, 08:10:05 pm »
Err, if anything I think the knife should be nerfed. For a 1 hit kill weapon it has very few restraints when compared with other 1 hit kill weapons.

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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #9 on: October 04, 2007, 08:31:04 pm »
Crappy range, startup time, annoying to get back...Few restraints? Not really.
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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #10 on: October 05, 2007, 12:42:17 am »
you gotta have perfect timing to stab someone, knife is not saw, the rate is much much slower.

Err, if anything I think the knife should be nerfed. For a 1 hit kill weapon it has very few restraints when compared with other 1 hit kill weapons.

hell yeah, other secondary are losing grounds to the knife.. I dont see anyone using law anyone.. no one in gathers uses anything other than knife.
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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #11 on: October 05, 2007, 07:28:00 am »
you gotta have perfect timing to stab someone, knife is not saw, the rate is much much slower.

Err, if anything I think the knife should be nerfed. For a 1 hit kill weapon it has very few restraints when compared with other 1 hit kill weapons.


hell yeah, other secondary are losing grounds to the knife.. I dont see anyone using law anyone.. no one in gathers uses anything other than knife.
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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #12 on: October 05, 2007, 11:06:05 am »
you gotta have perfect timing to stab someone, knife is not saw, the rate is much much slower.

Err, if anything I think the knife should be nerfed. For a 1 hit kill weapon it has very few restraints when compared with other 1 hit kill weapons.


hell yeah, other secondary are losing grounds to the knife.. I dont see anyone using law anyone.. no one in gathers uses anything other than knife.
This is absolute bull****. Whenever I use ruger in a gather, I use SOCOM. You won't see most people using barrett WITHOUT a SOCOM. At all.
lol knife is very good with barret(t).


JonWood007 - skills plz, don't whine if someone owns you with weapon which is more than balanced (compare knife to any other 1 hit - barret-range... / m79 - no delay, more than 1 shot possible )


Rook_PL  - one >STAB< kills.


Knife dmg is just ok.

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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #13 on: October 06, 2007, 02:13:35 pm »
Knife is balanced imo, but i'd agree that if the stabs were one hit kill, it would basically cancel out the chainsaw, just for the mere fact you can throw it and still do damage, you cant throw a chainsaw at someone and hope they get stabbed by the blade of it.

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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2007, 10:17:34 am »
you gotta have perfect timing to stab someone, knife is not saw, the rate is much much slower.

Err, if anything I think the knife should be nerfed. For a 1 hit kill weapon it has very few restraints when compared with other 1 hit kill weapons.


hell yeah, other secondary are losing grounds to the knife.. I dont see anyone using law anyone.. no one in gathers uses anything other than knife.
This is absolute bull****. Whenever I use ruger in a gather, I use SOCOM. You won't see most people using barrett WITHOUT a SOCOM. At all.

you and your 1% of the population.... We are talkin about the general public not your 1 or 2 exeptions

 
you gotta have perfect timing to stab someone, knife is not saw, the rate is much much slower.

Err, if anything I think the knife should be nerfed. For a 1 hit kill weapon it has very few restraints when compared with other 1 hit kill weapons.


hell yeah, other secondary are losing grounds to the knife.. I dont see anyone using law anyone.. no one in gathers uses anything other than knife.
This is absolute bull****. Whenever I use ruger in a gather, I use SOCOM. You won't see most people using barrett WITHOUT a SOCOM. At all.
lol knife is very good with barret(t).


JonWood007 - skills plz, don't whine if someone owns you with weapon which is more than balanced (compare knife to any other 1 hit - barret-range... / m79 - no delay, more than 1 shot possible )


Rook_PL  - one >STAB< kills.


Knife dmg is just ok.


you dont compare a secondary with a primary because you can have a primary and a secondary when you respawn. the primary is supposed to be better than a secondary because its the main killer.

if anything do you see any one that uses anything other than knife these days?? people dont choose stuff for no reason. and the reason why people chooses knife over law/saw/socom is because knife is better than the rest. and that is not balanced.

« Last Edit: October 07, 2007, 10:21:14 am by excruciator »
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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #15 on: October 07, 2007, 10:40:56 am »
you gotta have perfect timing to stab someone, knife is not saw, the rate is much much slower.

Err, if anything I think the knife should be nerfed. For a 1 hit kill weapon it has very few restraints when compared with other 1 hit kill weapons.

hell yeah, other secondary are losing grounds to the knife.. I dont see anyone using law anyone.. no one in gathers uses anything other than knife.

Actually I almost always see 2+ laws in each gather I go in, often with a socom user in there too.

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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #16 on: October 07, 2007, 12:49:11 pm »
excruciator - ... its all situational

saw - sux. xD
law - good on several maps, long range
socom - just a standard secondary ...
knife - it is short range only, ONLY. It seems to be best for rusher, so that's probably why it's overused

overused <> overpowered

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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #17 on: October 07, 2007, 04:50:27 pm »
you gotta have perfect timing to stab someone, knife is not saw, the rate is much much slower.

Err, if anything I think the knife should be nerfed. For a 1 hit kill weapon it has very few restraints when compared with other 1 hit kill weapons.

hell yeah, other secondary are losing grounds to the knife.. I dont see anyone using law anyone.. no one in gathers uses anything other than knife.

Actually I almost always see 2+ laws in each gather I go in, often with a socom user in there too.

compare it to the amount of knife users.

excruciator - ... its all situational

saw - sux. xD
law - good on several maps, long range
socom - just a standard secondary ...
knife - it is short range only, ONLY. It seems to be best for rusher, so that's probably why it's overused

overused <> overpowered

whats your secondary? Do you switch secondary depending on the map? I think not.

Date Posted: October 07, 2007, 05:43:58 pm
comparison: knife and law
knife                                                          law
- less start up                                         - Long Range
- can be picked up and used again         - bullet does not lose dmg due to range
- fire while flying                                      - ....and thats it.....
- fire while moving, fast or slow

you can see that knife is better than law... better than any other secondary. Before the knife had the start up decrease, there were as much knifers as lawers. I think the start up should go back to what it was. thats all. also the law should go back too
« Last Edit: October 07, 2007, 04:52:13 pm by excruciator »
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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2007, 01:45:17 am »
if anything do you see any one that uses anything other than knife these days?? people dont choose stuff for no reason. and the reason why people chooses knife over law/saw/socom is because knife is better than the rest. and that is not balanced.
What? knife is good ONLY if youre good with it AND if youre using a non-1 hit weapon

if youre using barrett/knife youll waste a "full" hit on a less than 25% health enemy(if you miss you let a dead enemy go thru when he should have been easily killed)
if youre using soccom you only have to do a couple hits


In fact, it is the soccom that is overpowered(low reload time, low "delay" between hits, good ammo)
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Re: Knife Damage
« Reply #19 on: October 08, 2007, 02:46:24 pm »
knife is like a coruse cause ...IS A KNIFE IS DOSNT KILL U WITH ONE CUT FACE IT, i mean a bullet do more damage than a knife right??' but im learning to use it so watch out cause im coming ..with knife
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