Barret considered a nooby gun

[~Niko~]

I NEVER camp with sniper. I RUSH WITH IT. Incredibly it's a nice weapon if you get a knife, so you kill somebody while you get to enemy's base, capture, spawnkill somebody with knife, and while you are running to your base, get to the middle of the map and wait some dude who was trying to stop you, then you blow up his head before he see you (Thanks to this long range weapon), start running another time and get to your base alive, and cap. (That would be perfect but  )

[excruciator]

dont flame me for this.
I think many of you have done that.

you can actually hold the fire button when you cooldown to skip in delay. I use that all the time back in 1.3.1
and now, when that feature is gone, I find the barrett, well crippled. because now you have to keep a eye onto the cooldown.

and also, is it me or the bink system is different; back at the 1.3.1, if you hold the Fire before you got hit by a bullet, the bink doe not affect you,  but now, even a stray shot will bink you so much that for a well aimed shot is close to impossible.

I think the barrett should have SOME anti-bink ability.

to counter balance it we could make barrett harder in terms of long range shots. Dunno it seems to me that in 1.3.1 the barrett was somewhat harder to use at long range..

[Lone-Wolf]

dont flame me for this.
I think many of you have done that.

you can actually hold the fire button when you cooldown to skip in delay. I use that all the time back in 1.3.1
and now, when that feature is gone, I find the barrett, well crippled. because now you have to keep a eye onto the cooldown.

and also, is it me or the bink system is different; back at the 1.3.1, if you hold the Fire before you got hit by a bullet, the bink doe not affect you,  but now, even a stray shot will bink you so much that for a well aimed shot is close to impossible.

I think the barrett should have SOME anti-bink ability.

to counter balance it we could make barrett harder in terms of long range shots. Dunno it seems to me that in 1.3.1 the barrett was somewhat harder to use at long range..

From 1.3.1 to 1.4.2,

Barret :

Movement accuracy +1
Bink + 10
Shot delay.

I wouldn't call it crippled it's still a devastating weapon to use. It just got a lot more challenging.
And the barret does have an anti-bink ability.

Dance and avoid the bullets for a split second and shoot the enemy without dying in the process.
Depending on the type of autos from good players, you really only have a maximum of 3 seconds to get your shot in.
If you miss, you will most probably die.

Do or die. XD

[~Niko~]

Movement accuracy +1
Bink + 10
Shot delay

That was a bad change, if you back to 1.3 you can use barret and always hit, even if someone is firing to you, now if some bullet hits you, you can't do any right shot =/

Maybe MM hate snipers? 

[excruciator]

dancing isnt really a solution when fighting against a skilled player. And you aim will become less accurate because now you are effected by mov acc.

I would like to see some real anti bink ability (other than dancing -.- )
and make the long range shots harder(dunno, back in 1.3.1, you cant actually aim where your target is to hit the target)

[O.R.I.O.N.]

One thing that gets on my nerves more than anything is people who bitch about me camping with the Barrett. For the love of god, it's a sniper rifle. I intend to use the scope, and anybody who complains about it is too brain-dead to think up away to take me out. The M82A1 is only a nooby gun in the eyes of noobs going up against a true master of the weapon.

[~Niko~]

Sniper was made to snipe, kill the enemy in long range, so if anyone whine, just use /mute <nameofthewhiner>
And you won't listen him again.

[Zamorak]

Skipping the delay can be relatively worthless in non-public games, since you are forced to fire into a specific timeframe. Which, in my opinion, renders worthless any advantage possible gained by having no delay. Since you still have the cool down time, and you cannot use instant reaction by holding the button down, you are forced to fire when the reuse time is up, and that in itself is more limiting than the delay would be.

[Lone-Wolf]

dancing isnt really a solution when fighting against a skilled player.

Yes it is. If you know how to dance baby, dance ! xD

And you aim will become less accurate because now you are effected by mov acc.

Like I said it's become more challenging !

 Make the long range shots harder(dunno, back in 1.3.1, you cant actually aim where your target is to hit the target)

I have no idea what you are talking about. Once you master the bullet curve you can shoot anything your scope can reach.

The barret is fine as it is, we are meant to lose at close range against other weapons anyways.
Can a real life sniper still get the shot in as his arms and hands and balls and brains are being shot to pieces ?

[Supernaut]

Real life soldiers would probably survive a knife throwed at them;)

[Psycho]

The "Omg its a barrett its SUPPOSED to be powerful" isnt really an argument.

If we put in a homing plasma explosive minigun, its SUPPOSED to own the feck out of the other weps.. Doesent improve gameplay though.

The moveacc is not really any problem. Even a newbie sniper like me, know that as long as you let go of the keyboard for half a second, there's no self bink whatsoever.

[.Ryan.]

Like every weapon in soldat, it's as good as the user, it also has strengths and weaknesses like every other weapon. this topic is very old

[wolfofman]

Ryan, I'm glad you didn't read the post, or you have poor reading comprehension.

I was asking as to why it is considered nooby by some, but apparently that is hard to understand.

I am not asking about strengths and weaknesses just why do people think like they do.

[Xaero]

Point, click, shoot. I think I've made my point.

Only idiots complain about guns, because they don't know how to dodge.

You can't dodge a bullet. >.> You can only move before the bullet shoots. Thats just dodge the big "TARGET" on you're head... Well only if they have laser scope.

Why do laser scope? It pretty writes:
"WARNING WARNING YOU ABOUT TO BE SHOT!!!"
all over it... But all over the SMALL dot it shows. >.> I guess it ain't that notice-able.

ANYWAYS. That genede luncher or whatever is over powered.

Your warning level tells us what kind of kid you are.
What you just said is more wrong than right.

[.Ryan.]

Ryan, I'm glad you didn't read the post, or you have poor reading comprehension.

I was asking as to why it is considered nooby by some, but apparently that is hard to understand.

I am not asking about strengths and weaknesses just why do people think like they do.

Well i gave my points on the first page if u bothered to read them. I don't consider it a noob weapon, but sometimes the user can act like one. the weapons are reasonably well balanced in soldat so it's down to skill in the end.

People will only call it nooby when they get killed by it, if they are owning someone who is using the ret  they won't really say anything.

So if someone is annoying the life out of you with the barrett dont blame the weapon blame the user/yourself.

Tbh, binking the sniper with auto fire is too easy and makes the weapon slightly weak in my opinion, but as i said, its really down to the user at the end of the day to stop that happening and get  an accurate shot off.
This will reduce the sniper to sort of run/miss/heal tactics which people consider nooby, as do i, but..instead they blame the weapon thinking thats how its designed to be used. Not really:
The best player I have seen rushes u with sniper and picks u off from incredibly long distances and strange angles. How can u consider that nooby?

[wolfofman]

Thanks for giving me an answer, the first one was rather unclear.

[Scorpian]

One thing that gets on my nerves more than anything is people who feck about me camping with the Barrett. For the love of god, it's a sniper rifle. I intend to use the scope, and anybody who complains about it is too brain-dead to think up away to take me out. The M82A1 is only a nooby gun in the eyes of noobs going up against a true master of the weapon.

Truer words could never have been spoken.

[Di3hard]

Barret isnt a noob weapon .. espesically when you rush with it . it takes skill to use it.
<now i dont believe in camping so my answer is based on that>
Have you been in Elite Snipe and Slice =S its just a colaboration of ussally 16 good to sickin-ling good snipers 95% of which DONT CAMP and it takes skill to get like 30kills + in a game So Barret Isnt a noob weapon ... M79 on the other hand i would classify it as a "noob weapon" people just rush around with it and when a person runs out of fuel and start falling infront of an m79er they just point and click..... pointing and shooting takes no skill .. walking up to someone while they are turned takes no skill This is a pathetic conversation.

Il also Have to agree with ryan because its not the weapon and who can mass killl with a barret in an m79 or auto game is a good player and if you get kill thousands of times all you can really say is "Wow hes got skills" and dont blame people of hacking if there good with 1 weapon also =S -Unless they  are hacking =]-

[mxyzptlk]

What I hate is this: I'm the kind of person who will rush with the barrett, then, when it's clear, prone and look ahead for a second. If I see anyone shootable, I shoot, then get back up while it reloads and run, pull out my socom if I run into someone while reloading. The thing is, people call this camping. What? It's not camping, it's tactical sniping. Camping is staying in the same place, usually an opportune place, and continually snipe. That's not what I do.

Get this straight, Sniping =/= camping. Get your teminology right

One thing that gets on my nerves more than anything is people who feck about me camping with the Barrett. For the love of god, it's a sniper rifle. I intend to use the scope, and anybody who complains about it is too brain-dead to think up away to take me out. The M82A1 is only a nooby gun in the eyes of noobs going up against a true master of the weapon.

Agreed. Quoted for truth, my friend, quoted for truth.

[FearTheReaper]

I miss the delayless barrett back from 1.2.1 : 3
Fun times.

That would be godly.

I hate the delay on the Barrett.