gun worse than any other gun.

[excruciator]

Tapping the minigun repeatedly..that would damage the enemy about..2%, the minigun does next to no damage, unless your within kissing range of the enemy.

ak is more accurate, does more damage, infact im going to stop right here..how can you compare these 2 weapons at all, is beyond me sorry..

it could be useful for boosting but thats its limit tbh. But then why wouldnt you use spas? that does a better job in itself.

ohh you guys are talkin about minigun..I was talkin bout minimi...

but there is a way to use minigun, it can be quite deadly if you know how, In a good day I can get double and trip pretty often when playing a gather.(no nade, straight gunning) scare the sheet outta people

I only figure out the "big picture" of that technique, I'm pretty sure that there is a way to own with it. people dont know that if there is no bug, minigun can kill the fastest

Date Posted: December 20, 2007, 09:18:03 pm

It might be that I've done most of my playing on realistic servers, but I've never had a problem going up against a rugerer/rugertard with an MP5. Though, I'm a barrettard and rugertard myself, so I can predict the shot from both pretty well. Take that for what you will.

Still...in a straight duel, MP5 does feel a bit nerfed.

it just need to have about 5 more damage, or be more accurate.

if ruger pwned you, take cover behind a sand bag or other collider (not on it, but behind it), and shoot over it(mp5's low speed bullet curves down and hit the rugertard).

samething applied to fights against barrett.

it just me that feels that mp5 is good enough?

[ElGato]

No for once I actually agree, Mp5 is fine. But your idea of owning with the minigun is wrong, listen to what Skoskav has to say about the issue with it. Unless it's changed, it's pretty much useless.

[excruciator]

No for once I actually agree, Mp5 is fine. But your idea of owning with the minigun is wrong, listen to what Skoskav has to say about the issue with it. Unless it's changed, it's pretty much useless.

another guy that actually "aims" with it.
Im not saying that its not close to useless, im saying that is usable, but its just too hard and different from all the other guns.

EDIT: omg elgato in a clan, I never thought I would see the day...

[FearTheReaper]

I found out how to use MP5 effectively: I started crouch-and-spray.

Immediate ownage.

[excruciator]

I found out how to use MP5 effectively: I started crouch-and-spray.

Immediate ownage.

you are easy meat once you are not moving.

[Clawbug]

I found out how to use MP5 effectively: I started crouch-and-spray.

Immediate ownage.

you are easy meat once you are not moving.

Agreed. One nade to the legs and you can say goodbye.

Also it is incredibly easy to aim on a stationary target.

[ElGato]

No for once I actually agree, Mp5 is fine. But your idea of owning with the minigun is wrong, listen to what Skoskav has to say about the issue with it. Unless it's changed, it's pretty much useless.

another guy that actually "aims" with it.
Im not saying that its not close to useless, im saying that is usable, but its just too hard and different from all the other guns.

EDIT: omg elgato in a clan, I never thought I would see the day...

But it's not usefull for killing people, which is what you implied.

[.Ryan.]

it's good for boosting, that's about it. no serious player would consider using it to frag, unless your playing utter noobs, and taking the pi** out of them.

But then again, if you are looking to boost, the m79 and spas are far better i think.

[Morik]

The mp5 is balance and should not be changed. Playing on Nuubia against 3 mp5'er is not a pretty expirience, as this is what happened to me last night. In that situation my shotty < thier mp5's.

[8th_account]

So you're saying that one shotgun can't beat three mp5s? No shit =)

[excruciator]

No for once I actually agree, Mp5 is fine. But your idea of owning with the minigun is wrong, listen to what Skoskav has to say about the issue with it. Unless it's changed, it's pretty much useless.

another guy that actually "aims" with it.
Im not saying that its not close to useless, im saying that is usable, but its just too hard and different from all the other guns.

EDIT: omg elgato in a clan, I never thought I would see the day...

But it's not usefull for killing people, which is what you implied.

it doesnt mean that it cant. and it doenst mean that it wont own, its just hard to get used to.

[KendiKong]

I disagree. The MP5 is my main weapon and I kick ass with it.

[Ziem]

Mp5 isn't universal weapon, its close range weapon, and it owns on short range.
I use it on nuubia when I play cw's, and it owns...

[.Ryan.]

Ruger could beat mp5 quite eaisily i think, especially if you get the height advantage, then its basically 2 headhots. steyr is just a stronger version of mp5, it's a bit inaccurate, fires fast ect. But it has a longer range, the bullets travel fast, it's more accurate.. atchually i think the mp5 needs a slight boost somewhere along the lines..so it can catch upto other weapons.

(other than the minigun, this is the only weapon in soldat i think is fairly weak compared to the other weapons, and thus worthy of a small boost)

I personally don't use it.. i just feel bad playing mp5ers and watching them die trying to get close to me, desperately spamming nades, then being forced to change primarys after they realise it's a bit pointless.

(slight decrease in bullet spread i would reccomend, at least then you can aim properly and trace your target like i do with the other autos.

[excruciator]

mp5 owns, seriously I played a couple of gathers with it and I own as a runner, mp5 and knife is a MUST for a runner(r2.psy-cho -.-)

I dont mind a little dmg boost though. 

[Ziem]

Ruger could beat mp5 quite eaisily i think, especially if you get the height advantage, then its basically 2 headhots. steyr is just a stronger version of mp5, it's a bit inaccurate, fires fast ect. But it has a longer range, the bullets travel fast, it's more accurate.. atchually i think the mp5 needs a slight boost somewhere along the lines..so it can catch upto other weapons.

(other than the minigun, this is the only weapon in soldat i think is fairly weak compared to the other weapons, and thus worthy of a small boost)

I personally don't use it.. i just feel bad playing mp5ers and watching them die trying to get close to me, desperately spamming nades, then being forced to change primarys after they realise it's a bit pointless.

(slight decrease in bullet spread i would reccomend, at least then you can aim properly and trace your target like i do with the other autos.

You aren't saying that it is not balanced. You just say that you can kill some random noobs who just took mp5 and can't kill you because you have ruger and keep the distance. (Anyway, with ruger you should be able to kill any auto-user...)

[Centurion]

What about nades? I've noticed that after grenading my opponent he is still alive, only loss some health and is bleeding? Are grenades meant to kill with single throw? Or there is a ruger rule? ( Hitting upper body will cause death with one grenade and lower body with two grenades? ) I can still remember times when I died by one grenade.

[Ziem]

What about nades? I've noticed that after grenading my opponent he is still alive, only loss some health and is bleeding? Are grenades meant to kill with single throw? Or there is a ruger rule? ( Hitting upper body will cause death with one grenade and lower body with two grenades? ) I can still remember times when I died by one grenade.

No, it seems to be reversed for nades, 1 nade in legs kills, and torso-hit deals more dmg than head (weird)
Do you play soldat for 3 days or wtf? -.-'

[Centurion]

Yes, I DO Play soldat for 3 days. Last 1 year and 362 days I was playing r/s.Oh sorry, you problably don't know what r/s stands for. In r/s you need only one grenade to kill your enemy, doesn't matter where. So, I am sorry if I am not as talented as you are and I haven't learned all those tips and infos how weapons kill.   

r/s = Realistic and Survival.

[The Owls]

These forums are dedicated to discussion of normal mode only.  Oh sorry, you probably don't know what normal stands for. In normal you need only one grenade to the leg kill your enemy, anywhere else, it takes two. So, I am sorry if I am not as stuck up as you are and I haven't learned all those tips and infos how weapons kill.