gun worse than any other gun.

[Twistkill]

hmm i would say about 5-15%

The MP5's damage right now is 102 points. 5% of that is 5 points of damage, which is far too much. Now imagine 15%... :S

[Clawbug]

I'd say 2% at the most. The 5% to any weapon will amke it overpowered. So the tolerances are in few %'s at the most.

[Zeating]

MP5 IMO is the best weapon in the game, it has just the right amount of accuricy so you don't have to aim dead-on to hit someone, u can aim near them and the bullets will do the work. The damage on the other hand is horrible, it needs a bit damage boost because you usally have to unload a clip and a half just to kill someone, but it reloads quite fast. so MP5 is great if you know how to use it, and it needs a little boost just to be even with the rest of the guns.

[TiReD]

wut.

You dont need to unload a clip and a half to kill someone, lol.

[mxyzptlk]

I believe that every weapon should be buffed. Buffs, at this point, are what's needed, where nerfs were before. I believe that 5-15 % on everything is indeed an acceptable buff, would make the game much faster paced and enjoyable.

[Clawbug]

I believe that every weapon should be buffed. Buffs, at this point, are what's needed, where nerfs were before. I believe that 5-15 % on everything is indeed an acceptable buff, would make the game much faster paced and enjoyable.

There was about 15% buff in 1.2 While it was fast version indeed, there was less skill involved in killing.

Now you need at least 3 hits with deagles to kill. Back then 1 hit could kill someone in extreme case. Basicly you needed less hits to kill = easier to be "good" with some weapon. When 1.3 came, you could see how the "good" people became not-so-good, as they had problems with the good aiming. It created bigger gap between good aimers and those not-so-good aimers. Which one of those didn't like it?

[.Ryan.]

I would vote on NO changes tbh, im fed up of weapons being rebalanced and having to re-learn the feel of them. just keep it as it is, the balance is nice.

if you HAVE to change a weapon then do something with the minigun.

[Chuck]

I agree. I dont even thunk a weapon balance section is nescessary... Maybe even just 1 stickied thread in general discussion

[Toki]

The minigun is kinda useless the only place I've ever seen it do any good is at the Zombie Matches.

[mxyzptlk]

The minigun is kinda useless the only place I've ever seen it do any good is at the Zombie Matches.

The minigun is quite useful in many situations, like in tunnels, in encampments (defensively), keeping a EFC from advancing, there are many situations, even though the minigun could still stand a buff, it is not completely useless.

[Clawbug]

Minigun is, and will always be fucked, as long as Soldat dev team decide to keep the bullets being randomly created.

[excruciator]

Minimi can be more accurate than Ak if you know how to handle it

[.Long-Range]

I love the MP5 but that things really needs a damage boost in my opinion. The only situation where the MP5 dominates is when you're in a mega CQB. And the spas even owns it in that situation.

[Mr.Giggles]

if you cant get a kill with it it means you arnt good enough with it. I have used nothing but the mp5 for most my soldat career (about 2 years) and can kill from far and short range with ease. The faster rate of fire for the mp5 creates the need for it to be less powerful than other guns. Dont forget an mp5 uses 9mm that will bounce off body armor at longer ranges but at short range is fairly successful. The trick really (if u play realistic) is to click repeatedly and get a perfectly straight stream going. It takes practice but again, like the real gun, the mp5 is meant for burst fire and is pretty acurate when u pulse it.

[7th_account]

Minigun is, and will always be fecked, as long as Soldat dev team decide to keep the bullets being randomly created.

Not really the issue. The spread can always be narrowed and firerate increased to compensate this. What's really disappointment is the aimbug that's exclusive to minigun. You've all had times when you've pumped someone with 100 bullets and they still walk. On your screen the bullets hit, but for the server and their screens, you were aiming somewhere else.

[.Ryan.]

Minimi can be more accurate than Ak if you know how to handle it

sorry but i have used ak for 5 years and i dont see that happening EVER, even with aimbot or something no way dude lol

[excruciator]

Minimi can be more accurate than Ak if you know how to handle it

sorry but i have used ak for 5 years and i dont see that happening EVER, even with aimbot or something no way dude lol

release the moviment button.. and tap repeatedly.

Date Posted: December 20, 2007, 12:34:40 pm

Minigun is, and will always be fecked, as long as Soldat dev team decide to keep the bullets being randomly created.

Not really the issue. The spread can always be narrowed and firerate increased to compensate this. What's really disappointment is the aimbug that's exclusive to minigun. You've all had times when you've pumped someone with 100 bullets and they still walk. On your screen the bullets hit, but for the server and their screens, you were aiming somewhere else.

would that mean If I change the mp5 for example, to the same data in waepon.ini, I would have no aimbug?

[Clawbug]

Minimi can be more accurate than Ak if you know how to handle it

sorry but i have used ak for 5 years and i dont see that happening EVER, even with aimbot or something no way dude lol

release the moviment button.. and tap repeatedly.

Date Posted: December 20, 2007, 12:34:40 pm

Minigun is, and will always be fecked, as long as Soldat dev team decide to keep the bullets being randomly created.

Not really the issue. The spread can always be narrowed and firerate increased to compensate this. What's really disappointment is the aimbug that's exclusive to minigun. You've all had times when you've pumped someone with 100 bullets and they still walk. On your screen the bullets hit, but for the server and their screens, you were aiming somewhere else.

would that mean If I change the mp5 for example, to the same data in waepon.ini, I would have no aimbug?

Same can be done to the AK.

And you should test the Minigun. ;o

[.Ryan.]

Tapping the minigun repeatedly..that would damage the enemy about..2%, the minigun does next to no damage, unless your within kissing range of the enemy.

ak is more accurate, does more damage, infact im going to stop right here..how can you compare these 2 weapons at all, is beyond me sorry..

it could be useful for boosting but thats its limit tbh. But then why wouldnt you use spas? that does a better job in itself.

[adadqgg]

It might be that I've done most of my playing on realistic servers, but I've never had a problem going up against a rugerer/rugertard with an MP5. Though, I'm a barrettard and rugertard myself, so I can predict the shot from both pretty well. Take that for what you will.

Still...in a straight duel, MP5 does feel a bit nerfed.

it just need to have about 5 more damage, or be more accurate.

if ruger pwned you, take cover behind a sand bag or other collider (not on it, but behind it), and shoot over it(mp5's low speed bullet curves down and hit the rugertard).

samething applied to fights against barrett.