Limited Ammo/Stealing off dead persons

[Eclipse]

Now, Im am new to the fourms, but ive played soldat for a few years.

It would be MUCH cooler if we had more limited ammo. Having to scab off dead bodys,  Stealing greandes etc. This could be incorporated into a backpack,which you can alot space to!

[jakobs]

soldat is not diablo ffs

[valion]

I can understand the scabing amo of bodies, it may be worth having if soldat matches lasted longer and people didnt die quiet so often.
sorry but i think this can only realy be implemented in games that have a campeign mode as in soldat people would just resort to team killing and suicide when their out of amo.

[di0xygen]

Oh and we could have weapon stats, and character levels and unique items, and monsters that give loot and stuff.

[echo_trail]

Oh and we could have weapon stats, and character levels and unique items, and monsters that give loot and stuff.

I agree. If we're gonna fuck soldat up, we might as well go all the way. I smell vehicles..

[1221995]

Ha ya... Army tankers, and airstrikes, and submarines (water, at that), and exploding polys, and... Oh... Got a little carried away there lol... But i dont think its gona happen 

[EnEsCe]

Lets just make Soldat an MMO. Watch out warcraft!

[Vilho]

I think Soldat doesn't need such change, though I gotta admit that it would be fun to test this.

...but still it's a 100% no.

[mxyzptlk]

I don't think that it would ruin soldat as an optional thing. It would add a good element of strategy.

Just think, Realistic mode probably got a similar ill reception when it was first announced. Same with survival and advance. I see no problem with adding Limit mode. (R-S-L-A mode, anyone?)

[-Skykanden-]

Nah i think it doesn't should be like that... should be:
 - Limited ammo: yes, with a new number where you can see how many clips you have
 - If you found a body if you crouch over it, you will take directly the clips he had, and the nodes

[Lord Frunkamunch]

Thus turning Soldat into an ammo-collect-o-fest.

[mxyzptlk]

Thus turning Soldat into an ammo-collect-o-fest.

No. There would be at least two clips per gun, which is realistic. There is more than enough ammo in two clips to survive a while, but if you want to keep going, you would need to collect. It would not, as you say, turn Soldat into an ammo-collect-o-fest.

[sai`ke]

Could be done already with scripting but it'd be awkward since bodies dissapear too quickly.

F11.5

[O.R.I.O.N.]

Lol @ limited ammo. That would entirely throw off the game's rhythm. F11.

[excruciator]

the gun are too weak, takes too many bullet to kill...

f11, because it simply can't work

[mxyzptlk]

Look at it as if it were a sub-game mode like Realistic or survival.

[excruciator]

would work on realistics...

[Iron Man]

Lets just make Soldat an MMO. Watch out warcraft!

actually, thatd be pretty sweet if someone made a "story mode" mod/map/something... dang, i want to try that now.

[O.R.I.O.N.]

Maybe "Campaign Editor"...? >___>

[drinkduff]

This would only work in Realistic Survial because its based on Rounds and everyone resets.  But really it only works with player classes etc.  Which isn't soldat.

And then then you'd run into the age old argument of real life.  You can still place well aim shots while running and full speed with sniper rifles in soldat.  In real life i'd be near impossible.  That's why  automatics are good during a spray and pray.  So sniper files would have a great advantage and blah blah blah. 

[ds dude]

Lol, Soldat has unlimited ammo anyway. When your out of bullets it just reloads and keeps on doing that.

[mxyzptlk]

Lol, Soldat has unlimited ammo anyway. When your out of bullets it just reloads and keeps on doing that.

Erm, he's talking about LIMITED ammo, not UNLIMITED.

[Eclipse]

A Story mode would work, But i wont know how.

[Pie]

I found a problem, Say i'm using a minimi and my enemy is using an Ak or mp5, how can i scab a completely different bullet type? It would just root my gun up and disable me from being able to kill people... Or what if i'm the only one using an auto aand everyone else uses barret or m79? I can't but grenades in my auto!!!
Maybe this will be implemented in link-dead, Depending on it's game pace and ect... MM did say it is a waaaaaaay more strategic game to play... :\
But in soldat no... i could see people running out of ammo completely and trying to fist each other to death...

[Eclipse]

What if they had Catagorys, Like Deagles and USSOCOM Were 9mm, All the Subs Together, Rilfe/sniper Together and Minimi and Mini together. They roughly use the same calibre.

[Shadow G-Unit]

F11, just retarded. Sorry, but Soldat is fine as it IS with unlimited ammo. All you people keep saying "story mode, story mode, story mode DAMMIT!", will never happen. I am pretty confident that MM has a life. He doesn't work and play Soldat 24/7 like you people think. Geez, he's a human.

[mxyzptlk]

F11, just retarded. Sorry, but Soldat is fine as it IS with unlimited ammo. All you people keep saying "story mode, story mode, story mode DAMMIT!", will never happen. I am pretty confident that MM has a life. He doesn't work and play Soldat 24/7 like you people think. Geez, he's a human.

It's not saying that it should be in the standard mode, but that it should be a sub-game mode, like advanced.

[Pie]

F11, just retarded. Sorry, but Soldat is fine as it IS with unlimited ammo. All you people keep saying "story mode, story mode, story mode DAMMIT!", will never happen. I am pretty confident that MM has a life. He doesn't work and play Soldat 24/7 like you people think. Geez, he's a human.

It's not saying that it should be in the standard mode, but that it should be a sub-game mode, like advanced.

I forsee it being as popular as htf. People would get frustrated," OMFG I CAN'tZ RELOADZ MY GUNZORZS!" *Rage quit* and ect.

[mxyzptlk]

F11, just retarded. Sorry, but Soldat is fine as it IS with unlimited ammo. All you people keep saying "story mode, story mode, story mode DAMMIT!", will never happen. I am pretty confident that MM has a life. He doesn't work and play Soldat 24/7 like you people think. Geez, he's a human.

It's not saying that it should be in the standard mode, but that it should be a sub-game mode, like advanced.

I forsee it being as popular as htf. People would get frustrated," OMFG I CAN'tZ RELOADZ MY GUNZORZS!" *Rage quit* and ect.

And yet, HTF has not been removed, because there are some who are hard core HTF players.

The same would possibly be true for this. However, more has been lost by not taking a risk than has ever been lost by taking it. It might flourish like Realistic for all you know.

[Pie]

Eh, all i'm saying is that i wouldn't play it and that i don't see it as being a popular option for people.
I am allowed to express my opinion aren't I?
I never see htf servers anymore, So therefore, i think it is unpopular.

[mxyzptlk]

Eh, all i'm saying is that i wouldn't play it and that i don't see it as being a popular option for people.
I am allowed to express my opinion aren't I?
I never see htf servers anymore, So therefore, i think it is unpopular.

Correction- you don't see any HTF -PUBS-. There are plenty. You just have to look for them.

Enough derailing.

F12.

[Eclipse]

I didnt mean it like a mian Game mode, Just like a script, Just like mxyzptlk said

[echo_trail]

Adding a script is something waaay different than adding it as a gamemode. Maybe one of you guys should write a script on this and test it out on your server before agreeing on implementing it to soldat.

F11, just retarded. Sorry, but Soldat is fine as it IS with unlimited ammo. All you people keep saying "story mode, story mode, story mode DAMMIT!", will never happen. I am pretty confident that MM has a life. He doesn't work and play Soldat 24/7 like you people think. Geez, he's a human.

It's not saying that it should be in the standard mode, but that it should be a sub-game mode, like advanced.

I forsee it being as popular as htf. People would get frustrated," OMFG I CAN'tZ RELOADZ MY GUNZORZS!" *Rage quit* and ect.

And yet, HTF has not been removed, because there are some who are hard core HTF players.

The same would possibly be true for this. However, more has been lost by not taking a risk than has ever been lost by taking it. It might flourish like Realistic for all you know.

Look, we all agree that soldat's a pretty fast-paced game, right? People wouldn't care to run around with no bullets in their gun, just waiting to get pwned. Someone allready brought up the issue of the weapons disappearing too fast as well.

So, there's just no way this will ever be added. It wouldn't be fun at al. I see the point in limited ammo and all, but I have massive doubts that the general mob will have much love for it. See, the players don't want things too complicated. They wanna be able to open soldat, join a server and kill everything that moves. They don't wanna have to consider their ammo as well.

Sorry if this doesn't make sence. I'm still drunk from yesterday.

[valion]

i think we're all being a bit hard on the guy. just understand. soldat is a small project made by a guy who likes programing and making easy money. not a major game like halo funded by a large LTD company

[Spasm]

The average life span is not near long enough to have this put in.  Even if you start with 2 or 3 clips, most of the time you would die before using all of that ammo.  Soldat is known for that crazy run and gun where you kill and die many times a game.

[Eclipse]

Adding a script is something waaay different than adding it as a gamemode. Maybe one of you guys should write a script on this and test it out on your server before agreeing on implementing it to soldat.

I cant write the script to test, as i cant write scripts. Maybe this should be a script for survival, I mean you dont last long...

[Shadow G-Unit]

Exactly echo and Spasm. It is just a dumb idea.

[excruciator]

I would actually like a story mode.. but soldat its just a gun and run, I can't see any story that would make it more interesting than it already is.

[valion]

yeah, what kind of story mode could you actualy have in soldat? i mean there isnt a lot that you could do that wouldnt happen in standered games.

although it would be extremly fun. it would need huge maps for this feature to be usable and would most lickely be an INF/TW game

[Pie]

yeah, what kind of story mode could you actualy have in soldat? i mean there isnt a lot that you could do that wouldnt happen in standered games.

although it would be extremly fun. it would need huge maps for this feature to be usable and would most lickely be an INF/TW game

So now it's a subgame mode off of a subgame mode?
Why not just make a script in a tw map? Then youve got a story, Make it so that you have to sneak past green team, and assassinate the blue member?

So script?

[Eclipse]

yeah, what kind of story mode could you actualy have in soldat? i mean there isnt a lot that you could do that wouldnt happen in standered games.

although it would be extremly fun. it would need huge maps for this feature to be usable and would most lickely be an INF/TW game

So now it's a subgame mode off of a subgame mode?
Why not just make a script in a tw map? Then youve got a story, Make it so that you have to sneak past green team, and assassinate the blue member?

So script?

I think so yeah...

[valion]

yeah, what kind of story mode could you actualy have in soldat? i mean there isnt a lot that you could do that wouldnt happen in standered games.

although it would be extremly fun. it would need huge maps for this feature to be usable and would most lickely be an INF/TW game

So now it's a subgame mode off of a subgame mode?
Why not just make a script in a tw map? Then youve got a story, Make it so that you have to sneak past green team, and assassinate the blue member?

So script?

i wasnt being serious. soldat isn't the kind of game that can have a story/campeign mode. i was just theorising what would this impossible thing be like.

[imacheater2k7]

Umm.... there's already been a mod that allows Limited ammo in realistic mode. It's called Tactical Soldat. Check it out sometime. (Sorry, no link...)

[Barry]

Umm, that mod doesn't do what we're looking for.

I despise those who flame this idea and says that it is retarded. It's a good suggestion and I would like to see it implemented. It would be very cool in R/S, it would be even more tactical.

By the way, if this is so "useless", what do you guys think about Advance mode? It's pretty close to this and yet it's in the game

[Lord Frunkamunch]

By the way, if this is so "useless", what do you guys think about Advance mode? It's pretty close to this and yet it's in the game

The fact that no one plays advance mode should tell you something.

Also, how the hell is advance mode even remotely related to having limited ammo?

[Magic Odd Effect]

Limited weapons, limited ammo.....somewhat similar.

Some awesome servers have Advance mode on...like Decaying Zombies, although it's heavily modded.

So does Leo's RSA, but it's got all modes turned on.

I could see this as an option for servers such as TW, realistic, RS, and RSA.

I think that it would be best if there was no difference between ammo types, a.k.a., you pick up ammo every time you kill someone. That would give this a bit of a Soldat sort of feel, as it would be more simple than reality but still have a bit of tactics to it.

What most of you people don't seem to get is that THIS WOULD ONLY BE IMPLEMENTED AS AN OPTION, IF IT EVER WERE IMPLEMENTED. Don't flame the guy just because he made a simple suggestion, just logically disprove it.

What this topic does prove is that more than a few people are highly opposed to changing and tailoring options for game modes, which would bring new tactics and gameplay. This leads me to believe that those of you who flamed in this topic may be opposed to any sort of change that may somehow alter the gameplay of Soldat (option or no option).

Just remember, if an option comes up that could have amazing opportunities, try to be a little bit more accepting.

Oh, and on this suggestion, I can see it being fun in Trenchwars or realistic, but it must be an option. MUST.

Who the @#&! came up with the "flame a story mode in a suggestion topic having nothing to do with it" idea?

[Will]

I totaly agree with Magic here, people who flame the guys with the new feature/mode suggestion can sometimes be a real pain in the arse for not reading the entire post. I am by no means attacking all the people who are opposing some suggestions, just those that don't have the patience to read everything.

Back on topic, it would bring a whole lot of options for soldat to be modded also, thus mroe players would play it etc.

[Barry]

The fact that no one plays advance mode should tell you something.

The fact that people do tells me something.

[Pie]

The last thing soldat needs is more options, let alone options that are fairly useless and ones that I wouldn't find entertaining, So no, i still think it's a bad idea.

[valion]

im not saying this is a crap idea, but a lot of the maps and gameplay insoldat makes it unfeasable.
people dont usely duck and cover before reloading and advancing.
manny players would then use /mercy to respawn and continue killing.
for this to be any good you'd need survival on and much larger, realistic maps.

[LOL]

i'd probaly say f11 mainly because bodies disaper.

i can imagne everyone running round with no ammo punching each other

[Zeating]

Guess what did anyone ever think of a NEW GAMEMODE?
If people dont like this ammo collecting sh** well how about we add a new game mode aka : "SOLDAT RPG" in soldat RPG gamemode u can buy weps from a menu, u will need to buy clips/loot them and all the stuff u guys said

Thus fixing all these probs

[Lord Frunkamunch]

The last thing soldat needs is more options

Please die now. Thanks.

[Zeating]

The last thing soldat needs is more options

Please die now. Thanks.

lol pwned

[Eclipse]

Limited weapons, limited ammo.....somewhat similar.

Some awesome servers have Advance mode on...like Decaying Zombies, although it's heavily modded.

So does Leo's RSA, but it's got all modes turned on.

I could see this as an option for servers such as TW, realistic, RS, and RSA.

I think that it would be best if there was no difference between ammo types, a.k.a., you pick up ammo every time you kill someone. That would give this a bit of a Soldat sort of feel, as it would be more simple than reality but still have a bit of tactics to it.

What most of you people don't seem to get is that THIS WOULD ONLY BE IMPLEMENTED AS AN OPTION, IF IT EVER WERE IMPLEMENTED. Don't flame the guy just because he made a simple suggestion, just logically disprove it.

What this topic does prove is that more than a few people are highly opposed to changing and tailoring options for game modes, which would bring new tactics and gameplay. This leads me to believe that those of you who flamed in this topic may be opposed to any sort of change that may somehow alter the gameplay of Soldat (option or no option).

Just remember, if an option comes up that could have amazing opportunities, try to be a little bit more accepting.

Oh, and on this suggestion, I can see it being fun in Trenchwars or realistic, but it must be an option. MUST.

Who the @#&! came up with the "flame a story mode in a suggestion topic having nothing to do with it" idea?

That would break the M79, Shottie, Saw + LAW.

[Iron Man]

how could soldat not have a story mode? few maps with a mix of climb and random bots.. and flags at the end lead to next level. bosses would be possible by making a hard bot and putting you two in a cage fight.


how is that not possible?

[Lord Frunkamunch]

how could soldat not have a story mode? few maps with a mix of climb and random bots.. and flags at the end lead to next level. bosses would be possible by making a hard bot and putting you two in a cage fight.


how is that not possible?

Yeah, just make most bots have weak favorite weapons, and get a script that makes them constantly spawn just off-screen (metal slug style)

[Zeating]

That whould be soo sweet..

[Avis]

Maybe as a customizable option, but this possibility would "RUIN" the game (sarcasm)

For normal mode - no limit on ammo, period. :/

[Kavukamari]

Maybe "Campaign Editor"...? >___>

you mean notepad?

[Noobinabox]

Lets just make Soldat an MMO. Watch out warcraft!

Ah, Warcraft is already doomed. Hexer mod made sure of that.