SO I HERD U VOET RUDDKIPS

[EnEsCe]

So, no more John Howard. Kevin Rudd is the new Prime Minister of Australia. Glad I voted for him/Labor >_>
At least now Australia might get broadband that is as good as the rest of the world.




Macro time, to heck with rules.

[SpiltCoffee]

Yeah, he managed to hit on important topics everywhere.

Seriously, fast internet is a very serious issue.

[NinjaGimp369]

GG Kev.

[Slashnoob]

bitches dont know

[Brock]

The Prime Minister of the land down under?

[TiReD]

How about just keeping this where it originated, ;>.

[Kszchroink]

hey guys

guys

all your prime minister are belong to rudds

heh, heh, get it

[a-4-year-old]

All your oil are belong to U.S.

[Svirin Kerath]

All your oil are belong to U.S.

Maybe some day. Middle East still dominates.

[Brock]

We shouldn't even be used oil nemore.

[Kszchroink]

Yeah, I mean, we have so many alternatives, right?

[a-4-year-old]

Yeah, I mean, we have so many alternatives, right?

... yes?
In terms of electricity we have a lot of other fuels such as hemp or coal or any other substance that is flamable enough to burn.
Also
Solar
Hydro
Wind
Geothermal
Nuclear

in cars there is
Veggie oil
Bio diesel
electric
compressed air
hydrogen

<3 discovery channel

[Svirin Kerath]

Yeah, I mean, we have so many alternatives, right?

... yes?
In terms of electricity we have a lot of other fuels such as hemp or coal or any other substance that is flamable enough to burn.
Also
Solar

Expensive till now, and mass production of solar panel sheets may take years to take off.

Hydro

Need to be near water- a luxury not all have...

Wind

Doesn't yield nearly enough energy.

Geothermal

See above.

Nuclear

We've had this for a while, it's not quite safe, and creates a ton of dangerous waste.

in cars there is
Veggie oil

Prolly the best, most economical alternative.

Bio diesel

Will take years to catch on.

electric

Requires more of the above list, but is increasing in efficiency and power output.

compressed air

lol wut

hydrogen

Hah! That's a looong way off.

<3 discovery channel

You should get Popular Science.

[BondJamesBond]

The thing about hydro and geothermal is that they are unreliable - for example the shrinking Niagara Falls or the cooling down of geothermal sites. People also have problems with these techniques because of adverse effects on the region.

For bio diesel our public transportations department recently began implementing it into their buses, so maybe it's closer than we think, but the important issue would be the emissions. - I think about 30% more than petroleum.

Compressed air - pneumatics.

But a-4-year-old is still makes a valid point about the variety of power sources. Naturally few of them are actually developed, because alternative energy sources have never really been prioritized.

[frogboy]

Nuclear disarmament is a crock of shit, Chernobyl happened 20 years ago in the Soviet Union.

But solar power is still inefficient, and that and wind require vast areas for relatively little energy. Geothermal is useless unless you're near a volcanic area, and hydro unless you're near water. And all of these require land, and therefore environmental damage.

Electric car power just moves the pollution away from the car, as does hydrogen, if it ever becomes close to feasible. Air requires power to pressurise, and decreases in power as the air tank decompresses. Biodiesel is great if you want to void your car warranty.

[Svirin Kerath]

The thing about hydro and geothermal is that they are unreliable - for example the shrinking Niagara Falls or the cooling down of geothermal sites. People also have problems with these techniques because of adverse effects on the region.

For bio diesel our public transportations department recently began implementing it into their buses, so maybe it's closer than we think, but the important issue would be the emissions. - I think about 30% more than petroleum.

Compressed air - pneumatics.

But a-4-year-old is still makes a valid point about the variety of power sources. Naturally few of them are actually developed, because alternative energy sources have never really been prioritized.

Yeah, that 'compressed air' bit really gets me. xD

My point is, sure, there are alternatives. But none are really as feasible as oil yet.

Nuclear disarmament is a crock of feck, Chernobyl happened 20 years ago in the Soviet Union.

But solar power is still inefficient, and that and wind require vast areas for relatively little energy. Geothermal is useless unless you're near a volcanic area, and hydro unless you're near water. And all of these require land, and therefore environmental damage.

Electric car power just moves the pollution away from the car, as does hydrogen, if it ever becomes close to feasible. Air requires power to pressurise, and decreases in power as the air tank decompresses. Biodiesel is great if you want to void your car warranty.

Oh no, not my warranty!!! D=

[Fluffy]

You sad little misguided foolish people.

[a-4-year-old]

BS

you are an idiot, there is enough wind in North Dakota to power the USA's electric bill. Not to mention offshore, which many countries have.

Compressed Air: Take the combustion out of the internal combustion engine.

Nuclear is perfectly safe, Chernobyl was caused by shitty soviet union safety regulations and cheap unreliable systems. And the only reason it isn't catching on is because of retards like you perpetuating the myth that it is somehow a ticking time bomb.

Wind does take up land, but it isn't like the land is completely taken up. The towers take up very little of the land itself.

[Svirin Kerath]

Not BS, though some may simplify it to that if they don't understand it

Nuclear is perfectly safe

saf 4 teh envrnments?!1!?


LOLZ

As for wind, yeah, there are a lot of windy places. But it would require a lot of towers to actually use enough of it to be effective, which costs a lot of money, and they're pretty delicate, so maintainance would be a bitch, which is more money.

As supplemental sources of energy, sure, they don't hurt, but they don't generate nearly enough as oil as cost-effectively. thus, not too practical at the moment.

As for compressed air, "Compressed Air: Take the combustion out of the internal combustion engine." sounds like a political slogan, not a scientific explanation. Like, "we only use 10% of our brains."

The Soldat Forums is a place for elaborate, sophisticated scientific discussion. if you're going to bring up some weird new technology, the burden of proof is on you, explain it, link it, don't be a lazy ass and expect us to.

[a-4-year-old]

As for wind, yeah, there are a lot of windy places. But it would require a lot of towers to actually use enough of it to be effective, which costs a lot of money, and they're pretty delicate, so maintainance would be a feck, which is more money.

As supplemental sources of energy, sure, they don't hurt, but they don't generate nearly enough as oil as cost-effectively. thus, not too practical at the moment.

As for compressed air, "Compressed Air: Take the combustion out of the internal combustion engine." sounds like a political slogan, not a scientific explanation. Like, "we only use 10% of our brains."

The Soldat Forums is a place for elaborate, sophisticated scientific discussion. if you're going to bring up some weird new technology, the burden of proof is on you, explain it, link it, don't be a lazy ass and expect us to.

The combustion engine uses pressure from the explosion inside to push pistons, instead of that, you use compressed air to do the same thing.

Also you are still an idiot who has no idea what you are talking about. Wind energy is one of the cheapest energy sources to produce. Cheaper than coal.