Challange anyone to a 1 on 1

[excruciator]

Challange anyone to a 1 on 1, for fun, or glory no spawn killing, 2 rounds, to 20 or time.

PM me here or look for FearDespair on #sna.gather

List of people that I've 1 on 1ed with at least once

AV Trooper AV shank, mafia' korrupt, mafia' Amid, mafia' Dead-bolt, R7. stryder, R4. D.Shadow, LP control, Drought, FTM evil homer, Ghost of c4ncer, farah 2wai, vX psycho, AE/ Dragonslayer, Kzya, kid!, cha-riot, re^ sarge, rai-dei, lessard, cubeboy, priv. ryan, EF novella

[truup]

Challange anyone to a 1 on 1, for fun, or glory no spawn killing, 2 rounds, to 20 or time.

PM me here or look for FearDespair on #sna.gather

What's wrong with spawnkilling? You're just supposed to watch while your enemy prepares to kill you? That's ridiculous.

[CriminalJoe]

Challange anyone to a 1 on 1, for fun, or glory no spawn killing, 2 rounds, to 20 or time.

PM me here or look for FearDespair on #sna.gather

What's wrong with spawnkilling? You're just supposed to watch while your enemy prepares to kill you? That's ridiculous.

think about it dude. you just dont go fly over to thier spawn point and wait.

just go grab some nades or something

[excruciator]

Challange anyone to a 1 on 1, for fun, or glory no spawn killing, 2 rounds, to 20 or time.

PM me here or look for FearDespair on #sna.gather

What's wrong with spawnkilling? You're just supposed to watch while your enemy prepares to kill you? That's ridiculous.

I just want to make it fair for the general public. Most people would complain when they are being spawnkilled. but sure. Rules are twickable...

just come on fight people...I need more practice!!!!

damn dragonslayer... stop avoiding me ;_;

[truup]

Challange anyone to a 1 on 1, for fun, or glory no spawn killing, 2 rounds, to 20 or time.

PM me here or look for FearDespair on #sna.gather

What's wrong with spawnkilling? You're just supposed to watch while your enemy prepares to kill you? That's ridiculous.

I just want to make it fair for the general public. Most people would complain when they are being spawnkilled. but sure. Rules are twickable...

just come on fight people...I need more practice!!!!

damn dragonslayer... stop avoiding me ;_;

It looks like you have played agaisnt DSlayer, and let me tell you a secret: He isn't the only good player in IRC community. Most of the people on SoldatForums aren't even near his level. But it's different in IRC.

[excruciator]

I played a lot of people, but its just hard to find the right ones to play with.
I played with LP control once, and he's been avoiding me ever since , cha-riot, once, again hiding somewhere, d.shadow once, and now dont know where he went, r7.stryder once, and now he does not know who I am anymore -.- , vX] [psycho, many times, and I improved a lot playing with him(great gunner by the way), always afk, kzya few times and dslay once.

most IRC soldat player does not believe in 1 on 1s, they think is stupid. So is hard to find the right people. Again I already know that IRC has a much better player base, but whatever, its still worth to try

[truup]

Most of the IRC players are intrested in playing 3on3 CTF usually agaisnt other clans, and that's pretty much what they do. That is the reason why they don't play much 1on1s, even though there are a lot of 1on1 situations in 3on3 CTF where you have to kill the enemy. That is the reason why they "avoid you", and why they don't "believe" in it. How ever, my mate likes to play a lot of 1on1s and he might play with you more than once, and he's not so bad at it. May I ask you if you live in EU or America?

[excruciator]

I'm NA, although I have no problem playing with anyone anywhere. As long as you put on a challange, I will accept

[Demonic]

Haven't I played you before?

[excruciator]

yes you did....and people change, skill changes too

[Despair]

1v1 does not denote skill at all by the way.
(I'll duel ye for fun if I find ye)

[excruciator]

ctf is just a series of mini 1 on 1s. Sometime 2 vs 1. if 1 v 1 does not denote skill, what does?
but sure I will 1 on 1 you.

Date Posted: January 12, 2008, 06:39:29 pm

1v1 does not denote skill at all by the way.
(I'll duel ye for fun if I find ye)

how can I find you?

[Poop]

The best way to play a 1v1 and the norm for most 1v1 tournaments ive seen made recently is survival mode. The reason is there is no med whoring, no spawnkilling, and you will always start with full health when you kill someone, thus it is essentially about pure skill.

[Squakingcow]

ctf is just a series of mini 1 on 1s. Sometime 2 vs 1. if 1 v 1 does not denote skill, what does?

Arrgh, sorry, I hear this said far to much, in CTF you do get 1 on 1 situations, however the two people are proberbly going to be rushing straight towards eachother, getting within nading range.

In a real 1v1 people generally play alot differently, hoovering in one place at the highest point, constantly retreating out of nading distance whilest shooting into the opponents face. Or just miss running with a barrett. These tactics are virtually useless in most situations (there are exceptions, like if you choose to defend).

So IMO 1v1 really isn't much of a test of skill, although what poop said could reduce the chances of some of these '1v1' tactics occuring, but it will never be eliminated ;/

[Poop]

ctf is just a series of mini 1 on 1s. Sometime 2 vs 1. if 1 v 1 does not denote skill, what does?

Arrgh, sorry, I hear this said far to much, in CTF you do get 1 on 1 situations, however the two people are proberbly going to be rushing straight towards eachother, getting within nading range.

In a real 1v1 people generally play alot differently, hoovering in one place at the highest point, constantly retreating out of nading distance whilest shooting into the opponents face. Or just miss running with a barrett. These tactics are virtually useless in most situations (there are exceptions, like if you choose to defend).

So IMO 1v1 really isn't much of a test of skill, although what poop said could reduce the chances of some of these '1v1' tactics occuring, but it will never be eliminated ;/

By pure skill, please note that I mean Pure skill as would be applied to 1v1's. In general, a good/awesome 1v1 player may not necesarily be a good CTF player (Which is usually the standard for "Good player" in the clan community). Anyone remember Kzya? He beat alot of good CTF players in 1v1's, however in CTF he was pathetic.

generally speaking, 1v1 is ONLY about accuracy and defensive playing, whereas CTF is about positioning, Accuracy, strategy(Both defensive and offensive), and teamplay/teammates.

[youngtoto]

Ill play you in R/S Though...On the topic or your first post you did'nt specify so i believe i can post
MSN:deadjeste@hotmail.com
AIM:Casual415

[excruciator]

ctf is just a series of mini 1 on 1s. Sometime 2 vs 1. if 1 v 1 does not denote skill, what does?

Arrgh, sorry, I hear this said far to much, in CTF you do get 1 on 1 situations, however the two people are proberbly going to be rushing straight towards eachother, getting within nading range.

In a real 1v1 people generally play alot differently, hoovering in one place at the highest point, constantly retreating out of nading distance whilest shooting into the opponents face. Or just miss running with a barrett. These tactics are virtually useless in most situations (there are exceptions, like if you choose to defend).

So IMO 1v1 really isn't much of a test of skill, although what poop said could reduce the chances of some of these '1v1' tactics occuring, but it will never be eliminated ;/

so nade = skill, and gun =/= not? man biased people around here.

Date Posted: January 13, 2008, 10:37:58 am

ctf is just a series of mini 1 on 1s. Sometime 2 vs 1. if 1 v 1 does not denote skill, what does?

Arrgh, sorry, I hear this said far to much, in CTF you do get 1 on 1 situations, however the two people are proberbly going to be rushing straight towards eachother, getting within nading range.

In a real 1v1 people generally play alot differently, hoovering in one place at the highest point, constantly retreating out of nading distance whilest shooting into the opponents face. Or just miss running with a barrett. These tactics are virtually useless in most situations (there are exceptions, like if you choose to defend).

So IMO 1v1 really isn't much of a test of skill, although what poop said could reduce the chances of some of these '1v1' tactics occuring, but it will never be eliminated ;/

By pure skill, please note that I mean Pure skill as would be applied to 1v1's. In general, a good/awesome 1v1 player may not necesarily be a good CTF player (Which is usually the standard for "Good player" in the clan community). Anyone remember Kzya? He beat alot of good CTF players in 1v1's, however in CTF he was pathetic.

generally speaking, 1v1 is ONLY about accuracy and defensive playing, whereas CTF is about positioning, Accuracy, strategy(Both defensive and offensive), and teamplay/teammates.

I'm pretty offensive in my 1 on 1s, it all depends on people. Kzya was surely one of those player that does not want to get any surprizes whatsoever. And yes, you are right, in essence ctf trains you more than 1 on 1s. but some people want to be focused. I do 1 on 1s because I want to practice aiming, nothing else. At ctf you practice a bit of that and a bit of something else confuses me because is not focused. Also like scarecrow said, always get within the nade range, at that point, its more about nading, knifing, and pointblank shooting. and you dont get much skill by doing pointblanks.
Also, I like 1 on 1s because the outcome of the match depends solemnly on how YOU are doing. There is no messing up because of teammates. there also no surprises in a 1 on 1, you know where they are, you know that they are expecting you, so it basically minimize the ambush factor, interference, and other things that people can whine of complain about.

Date Posted: January 13, 2008, 10:47:55 am

Ill play you in R/S Though...On the topic or your first post you did'nt specify so i believe i can post
MSN:deadjeste@hotmail.com
AIM:Casual415

I suck serious b*lls at R/S, you'll beat me 20 0 hands down.

[Demonic]

To put it simple, if you don't nade enough, someone will out nade you, and you will lose, relentless if it's 1v1 / ctf. Grenading is really what makes the difference between decent, good and best.

[excruciator]

To put it simple, if you don't nade enough, someone will out nade you, and you will lose, relentless if it's 1v1 / ctf. Grenading is really what makes the difference between decent, good and best.

I would rather lose than to be a ho

[The Rogue]

rely on some aim instead of ur nade spam.

[excruciator]

rely on some aim instead of ur nade spam.

Word.

[The Owls]

Grenades aren't used much at all in 1v1's, simply because both players tend to sit back behind polygons and spray.  The reason why most IRC players tend to not like 1v1's, is because it turns into 1 of 2 things almost every time.  A spray fest, where both players try to weaken each other, then go in for the kill.  Or a barrett/ruger match, where they both pop up, shoot, then hide, and so on.  For most players, that isn't considered fun at all.  Most of us enjoy the fast pace gameplay that ctf offers. 

As for grenades, once again.....  They are one of the key things that make good players, great.  Without them soldat would be quite boring in my opinion, and there would be almost no surprises in any clanwars.  Whether you think they're cheap or if you think they don't take any skill, that's your opinion.  But the whole soldat community has embraced them as a major part of the game.  Not using grenades in scrims or gathers, is like going into a boxing fight, using only one arm.  It's a huge disadvantage against you, so why would you limit yourself like that?

[excruciator]

Grenades aren't used much at all in 1v1's, simply because both players tend to sit back behind polygons and spray.

now you are just lying. Nade works wonderfully in 1v1, since most players that cant handle a run extremely well, they would move in and nade the hell out of the other guy.

[Demonic]

Owls is saying that the competitive duelists ( such as sneaky bastard ) tend to use the same tactic - which means running around the map, constantly luring the enemy into your spray. If your enemy does that, than your nades will depend more on luck than on skill - however, when you're the one on the good side of the steyr, they do wonders, carving down huge chunks of HP off the enemy.

[excruciator]

Owls is saying that the competitive duelists ( such as sneaky fecktard ) tend to use the same tactic - which means running around the map, constantly luring the enemy into your spray. If your enemy does that, than your nades will depend more on luck than on skill - however, when you're the one on the good side of the steyr, they do wonders, carving down huge chunks of HP off the enemy.

I wouldnt say spray, I 1 on 1ed sneaky, and I must say that I lost horribly due to the extreme difference in both terms of aiming skills and 1 on 1 experience. But I still wouldn't say they are spray, they are very accurate bursts.

As for grenades, once again.....  They are one of the key things that make good players, great.  Without them soldat would be quite boring in my opinion, and there would be almost no surprises in any clanwars.  Whether you think they're cheap or if you think they don't take any skill, that's your opinion.  But the whole soldat community has embraced them as a major part of the game.  Not using grenades in scrims or gathers, is like going into a boxing fight, using only one arm.  It's a huge disadvantage against you, so why would you limit yourself like that?

again, if your arm is very capable, you could still cripple the other guy. Also, if I win without the nade I can say this: "You just got beaten by a crippled!!!!111"
Again, its all about personal preferences, I'm against things that are known to be great, even overpowered. I would rather pick a gun or tactics, that are none the less good, yet under appreciated by most people. Using a overpowered, overused weapon does not gives me the sense of accomplishment that the later does. (Even at CS, I never use AK, M4, or Deagle, my gun of choice are Famas and scout, less powerful version of M4 and AWP, but when you are good enough, you can own with those none the less)

[Poop]

Again, its all about personal preferences, I'm against things that are known to be great, even overpowered. I would rather pick a gun or tactics, that are none the less good, yet under appreciated by most people. Using a overpowered, overused weapon does not gives me the sense of accomplishment that the later does. (Even at CS, I never use AK, M4, or Deagle, my gun of choice are Famas and scout, less powerful version of M4 and AWP, but when you are good enough, you can own with those none the less)

Bad logic, if you do something that is considered overpowered "Better" than the other person does that same thing, that is an accomplishment in and of itself.

Not that im saying you should use all the lame tactics, and I do see where your coming from. Im in the same boat myself, however sometimes doing certain things are necesary when it comes to competitive soldat. I have been against spray and its effectiveness for over 3 years now, and im still against it, and I do not spray 95% of the time. However when im getting owned massively in a clanwar by sprayers (Which sometimes happens depending on the situation), then the only way to even compete is by spraying yourself.

[excruciator]

Again, its all about personal preferences, I'm against things that are known to be great, even overpowered. I would rather pick a gun or tactics, that are none the less good, yet under appreciated by most people. Using a overpowered, overused weapon does not gives me the sense of accomplishment that the later does. (Even at CS, I never use AK, M4, or Deagle, my gun of choice are Famas and scout, less powerful version of M4 and AWP, but when you are good enough, you can own with those none the less)

Bad logic, if you do something that is considered overpowered "Better" than the other person does that same thing, that is an accomplishment in and of itself.

PS.: Is everyone just going to question my playing style of choice instead of requesting for 1v1s?

but If I beat you with a good weapon when you are using a overpowered one, doesnt it gives me MORE sense of acoomplishment?

[Sir Jeremy]

I love 1 vs 1 on bigfalls camp and snipe ftw :]

[homerofgods]

Add my Xfire: HOMEROFGODS  I usually say yes to a 1 vs 1

or my msn:  PRO@X.XX

[CIA]

fear u still play?

[DragonSlayer]

Wooh, I never knew you had a topic on Soldatforums.

By the way, I never avoided you, and we did duel though I dunno if that avoiding thing was said before or after it. I'm just not that fond of 1v1's for two reasons. One, I have played more duels than 99% of the community has, I can guarantee that. I played many duels on a daily basis for like 2½ years before joining AE/ so I really got tired of dueling. The other reason is that duels are a fairly inaccurate way to know one's level of skill and that it always turns into a stupid hide and seek game where the other player runs away and you have to chase him and everyone knows where that will lead. I'm glad it wasn't like that with you excruciator and dueling you was definitely pretty fun as I think we were both on the offense and there was no hiding, spraying, nade spamming or anything of the sort. But even so, I still think CTF is much better for gauging one's skill because the pace is faster, there are tactics involved and you don't have as much time to think which makes it a lot more intense and more difficult to play against good players. You need to be more aware all the time and there's just this GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF THE GAME which isn't apparent in duels. I think a decent player can put up a fight against a clearly better one in duels while in ctf he could lose easily, especially if it was 3v3, assuming the skill difference would be the same between all the players.

But again, if someone likes dueling, I think dueling excruciator was more fun than I have had dueling in a long time so you could take up on the offer.

[Jonny-Central]

Fear, you know Im always up for a 1v1 with you

[Ya,adon]

http://www.liga.soldat.int.pl/rejestracja_indywidualna.html
POLISH 1 v 1 LEAGUE!

[excruciator]

The other reason is that duels are a fairly inaccurate way to know one's level of skill and that it always turns into a stupid hide and seek game where the other player runs away and you have to chase him and everyone knows where that will lead.

word, I think that is also the main reason why people avoid 1 on 1s, the one that sprays, spams, camps are the ones that has the upperhand.

I'm glad it wasn't like that with you excruciator and dueling you was definitely pretty fun as I think we were both on the offense and there was no hiding, spraying, nade spamming or anything of the sort.

thanks for the compliment

But even so, I still think CTF is much better for gauging one's skill because the pace is faster, there are tactics involved and you don't have as much time to think which makes it a lot more intense and more difficult to play against good players. You need to be more aware all the time and there's just this GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF THE GAME which isn't apparent in duels. I think a decent player can put up a fight against a clearly better one in duels while in ctf he could lose easily, especially if it was 3v3, assuming the skill difference would be the same between all the players.

I used to think that 1 on 1 it was a gauge of pure aim.

But now I realized that 1 on 1 style aiming(hovering, minimizing movimentAcc, and maximizing DPS) rarely happens in situations outside of that small circle.

I guess 1 on 1 is a better gauge of aim then ctf, but it is certainly equally flawed.

But again, if someone likes dueling, I think dueling excruciator was more fun than I have had dueling in a long time so you could take up on the offer.

Did y'all heard it? come on people

[CIA]

fear go to #eo.soldat i wanna talk to u.

[Extacide]

Thats why CTF in the same respect is also about luck. Whoever spawns the fastest to get a head start, whoever dies in a 4-man buttsex orgy in the middle of the map, etc. 1v1 tests a player's pure ability to play. A lot of people complain that 1v1 is all about defense camping and "basing" as the Australians put it. If you duel an opponent who does such (Like me :F), the real skill is manipulating every situation to place yourself in a superior position. 1v1 requires a lot more mental strength, whereas CTF is more based on preset strategies and instincts.

[excruciator]

Thats why CTF in the same respect is also about luck. Whoever spawns the fastest to get a head start, whoever dies in a 4-man buttsex orgy in the middle of the map, etc. 1v1 tests a player's pure ability to play. A lot of people complain that 1v1 is all about defense camping and "basing" as the Australians put it. If you duel an opponent who does such (Like me :F), the real skill is manipulating every situation to place yourself in a superior position. 1v1 requires a lot more mental strength, whereas CTF is more based on preset strategies and instincts.

though I do hate playing 1 on 1s DM style. too unpredictable and too unfavorable if you have a weapon thats made for mid-short range combat. In that case, weapon makes too big of a difference.

A lot of people complain that 1v1 is all about defense camping and "basing" as the Australians put it. If you duel an opponent who does such (Like me :F), the real skill is manipulating every situation to place yourself in a superior position. 1v1 requires a lot more mental strength, whereas CTF is more based on preset strategies and instincts.

I would put that under the category of strategies. I must say extracide's got a lot of strategies. playing a big DM map for one, choosing ruger as another.

[Sir Jeremy]

Lol Fear, Add me on xfire if it's possible, and I might have time for a small 1v1
on ROK If you're still interested in it.

My xfire is xxxjeremyxxx.

Thanks, I will also be in #sna.gather to see if you're there.

Thanks, Take care.

[bloodzcape]

excruciator---i wouldnt mind versing u contact me and we'll c how it goes

[AntiHero]

I Would Gladly Like To 1 On 1 Battle Me & You But I Dont Know #SNA Gather Password  Aim Me Or Message Me Its On My Page About The Password Or We Can Go To A Diffrent Server PS..Dont Aim Me Or Message Me If I Am Going To Have To Download That Teamspeak Or What Ever They Call That Becuase Im Not Going To Download That..

[xurich]

You don't need a password to join #sna.gather. Just type /join #sna.gather on your IRC client once you're connected to QuakeNet.