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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #20 on: January 13, 2008, 06:36:47 pm »
rely on some aim instead of ur nade spam.

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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2008, 03:30:38 pm »
Grenades aren't used much at all in 1v1's, simply because both players tend to sit back behind polygons and spray.  The reason why most IRC players tend to not like 1v1's, is because it turns into 1 of 2 things almost every time.  A spray fest, where both players try to weaken each other, then go in for the kill.  Or a barrett/ruger match, where they both pop up, shoot, then hide, and so on.  For most players, that isn't considered fun at all.  Most of us enjoy the fast pace gameplay that ctf offers. 

As for grenades, once again.....  They are one of the key things that make good players, great.  Without them soldat would be quite boring in my opinion, and there would be almost no surprises in any clanwars.  Whether you think they're cheap or if you think they don't take any skill, that's your opinion.  But the whole soldat community has embraced them as a major part of the game.  Not using grenades in scrims or gathers, is like going into a boxing fight, using only one arm.  It's a huge disadvantage against you, so why would you limit yourself like that?

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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #22 on: January 17, 2008, 11:58:40 am »
Grenades aren't used much at all in 1v1's, simply because both players tend to sit back behind polygons and spray.

now you are just lying. Nade works wonderfully in 1v1, since most players that cant handle a run extremely well, they would move in and nade the hell out of the other guy.
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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #23 on: January 17, 2008, 05:31:33 pm »
Owls is saying that the competitive duelists ( such as sneaky bastard ) tend to use the same tactic - which means running around the map, constantly luring the enemy into your spray. If your enemy does that, than your nades will depend more on luck than on skill - however, when you're the one on the good side of the steyr, they do wonders, carving down huge chunks of HP off the enemy.

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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #24 on: January 17, 2008, 07:10:08 pm »
Owls is saying that the competitive duelists ( such as sneaky fecktard ) tend to use the same tactic - which means running around the map, constantly luring the enemy into your spray. If your enemy does that, than your nades will depend more on luck than on skill - however, when you're the one on the good side of the steyr, they do wonders, carving down huge chunks of HP off the enemy.

I wouldnt say spray, I 1 on 1ed sneaky, and I must say that I lost horribly due to the extreme difference in both terms of aiming skills and 1 on 1 experience. But I still wouldn't say they are spray, they are very accurate bursts.

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As for grenades, once again.....  They are one of the key things that make good players, great.  Without them soldat would be quite boring in my opinion, and there would be almost no surprises in any clanwars.  Whether you think they're cheap or if you think they don't take any skill, that's your opinion.  But the whole soldat community has embraced them as a major part of the game.  Not using grenades in scrims or gathers, is like going into a boxing fight, using only one arm.  It's a huge disadvantage against you, so why would you limit yourself like that?

again, if your arm is very capable, you could still cripple the other guy. Also, if I win without the nade I can say this: "You just got beaten by a crippled!!!!111"
Again, its all about personal preferences, I'm against things that are known to be great, even overpowered. I would rather pick a gun or tactics, that are none the less good, yet under appreciated by most people. Using a overpowered, overused weapon does not gives me the sense of accomplishment that the later does. (Even at CS, I never use AK, M4, or Deagle, my gun of choice are Famas and scout, less powerful version of M4 and AWP, but when you are good enough, you can own with those none the less)
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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #25 on: January 17, 2008, 09:38:06 pm »
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Again, its all about personal preferences, I'm against things that are known to be great, even overpowered. I would rather pick a gun or tactics, that are none the less good, yet under appreciated by most people. Using a overpowered, overused weapon does not gives me the sense of accomplishment that the later does. (Even at CS, I never use AK, M4, or Deagle, my gun of choice are Famas and scout, less powerful version of M4 and AWP, but when you are good enough, you can own with those none the less)

Bad logic, if you do something that is considered overpowered "Better" than the other person does that same thing, that is an accomplishment in and of itself.

Not that im saying you should use all the lame tactics, and I do see where your coming from. Im in the same boat myself, however sometimes doing certain things are necesary when it comes to competitive soldat. I have been against spray and its effectiveness for over 3 years now, and im still against it, and I do not spray 95% of the time. However when im getting owned massively in a clanwar by sprayers (Which sometimes happens depending on the situation), then the only way to even compete is by spraying yourself.
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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #26 on: January 18, 2008, 11:53:40 am »
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Again, its all about personal preferences, I'm against things that are known to be great, even overpowered. I would rather pick a gun or tactics, that are none the less good, yet under appreciated by most people. Using a overpowered, overused weapon does not gives me the sense of accomplishment that the later does. (Even at CS, I never use AK, M4, or Deagle, my gun of choice are Famas and scout, less powerful version of M4 and AWP, but when you are good enough, you can own with those none the less)

Bad logic, if you do something that is considered overpowered "Better" than the other person does that same thing, that is an accomplishment in and of itself.


PS.: Is everyone just going to question my playing style of choice instead of requesting for 1v1s?

but If I beat you with a good weapon when you are using a overpowered one, doesnt it gives me MORE sense of acoomplishment?
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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #27 on: January 25, 2008, 04:22:39 pm »
I love 1 vs 1 on bigfalls :P camp and snipe ftw :]

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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #28 on: April 15, 2008, 04:16:42 am »
Add my Xfire: HOMEROFGODS  I usually say yes to a 1 vs 1

or my msn:  PRO@X.XX
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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #29 on: April 17, 2008, 11:43:14 pm »
fear u still play?

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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #30 on: April 18, 2008, 03:29:51 am »
Wooh, I never knew you had a topic on Soldatforums.

By the way, I never avoided you, and we did duel though I dunno if that avoiding thing was said before or after it. I'm just not that fond of 1v1's for two reasons. One, I have played more duels than 99% of the community has, I can guarantee that. I played many duels on a daily basis for like 2½ years before joining AE/ so I really got tired of dueling. The other reason is that duels are a fairly inaccurate way to know one's level of skill and that it always turns into a stupid hide and seek game where the other player runs away and you have to chase him and everyone knows where that will lead. I'm glad it wasn't like that with you excruciator and dueling you was definitely pretty fun as I think we were both on the offense and there was no hiding, spraying, nade spamming or anything of the sort. But even so, I still think CTF is much better for gauging one's skill because the pace is faster, there are tactics involved and you don't have as much time to think which makes it a lot more intense and more difficult to play against good players. You need to be more aware all the time and there's just this GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF THE GAME which isn't apparent in duels. I think a decent player can put up a fight against a clearly better one in duels while in ctf he could lose easily, especially if it was 3v3, assuming the skill difference would be the same between all the players.

But again, if someone likes dueling, I think dueling excruciator was more fun than I have had dueling in a long time so you could take up on the offer.

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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #31 on: April 18, 2008, 10:56:41 am »
Fear, you know Im always up for a 1v1 with you ;)

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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2008, 11:02:00 am »
The other reason is that duels are a fairly inaccurate way to know one's level of skill and that it always turns into a stupid hide and seek game where the other player runs away and you have to chase him and everyone knows where that will lead.

word, I think that is also the main reason why people avoid 1 on 1s, the one that sprays, spams, camps are the ones that has the upperhand.

I'm glad it wasn't like that with you excruciator and dueling you was definitely pretty fun as I think we were both on the offense and there was no hiding, spraying, nade spamming or anything of the sort.

thanks for the compliment :D

But even so, I still think CTF is much better for gauging one's skill because the pace is faster, there are tactics involved and you don't have as much time to think which makes it a lot more intense and more difficult to play against good players. You need to be more aware all the time and there's just this GREATER UNDERSTANDING OF THE GAME which isn't apparent in duels. I think a decent player can put up a fight against a clearly better one in duels while in ctf he could lose easily, especially if it was 3v3, assuming the skill difference would be the same between all the players.

I used to think that 1 on 1 it was a gauge of pure aim.

But now I realized that 1 on 1 style aiming(hovering, minimizing movimentAcc, and maximizing DPS) rarely happens in situations outside of that small circle.

I guess 1 on 1 is a better gauge of aim then ctf, but it is certainly equally flawed.

But again, if someone likes dueling, I think dueling excruciator was more fun than I have had dueling in a long time so you could take up on the offer.

Did y'all heard it? come on people :D
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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #34 on: May 14, 2008, 09:08:39 pm »
fear go to #eo.soldat i wanna talk to u.

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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #35 on: May 17, 2008, 03:56:26 pm »
Thats why CTF in the same respect is also about luck. Whoever spawns the fastest to get a head start, whoever dies in a 4-man buttsex orgy in the middle of the map, etc. 1v1 tests a player's pure ability to play. A lot of people complain that 1v1 is all about defense camping and "basing" as the Australians put it. If you duel an opponent who does such (Like me :F), the real skill is manipulating every situation to place yourself in a superior position. 1v1 requires a lot more mental strength, whereas CTF is more based on preset strategies and instincts.
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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #36 on: May 17, 2008, 08:00:11 pm »
Thats why CTF in the same respect is also about luck. Whoever spawns the fastest to get a head start, whoever dies in a 4-man buttsex orgy in the middle of the map, etc. 1v1 tests a player's pure ability to play. A lot of people complain that 1v1 is all about defense camping and "basing" as the Australians put it. If you duel an opponent who does such (Like me :F), the real skill is manipulating every situation to place yourself in a superior position. 1v1 requires a lot more mental strength, whereas CTF is more based on preset strategies and instincts.

though I do hate playing 1 on 1s DM style. too unpredictable and too unfavorable if you have a weapon thats made for mid-short range combat. In that case, weapon makes too big of a difference.

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A lot of people complain that 1v1 is all about defense camping and "basing" as the Australians put it. If you duel an opponent who does such (Like me :F), the real skill is manipulating every situation to place yourself in a superior position. 1v1 requires a lot more mental strength, whereas CTF is more based on preset strategies and instincts.
I would put that under the category of strategies. I must say extracide's got a lot of strategies. playing a big DM map for one, choosing ruger as another.
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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #37 on: May 20, 2008, 02:16:56 pm »
Lol Fear, Add me on xfire if it's possible, and I might have time for a small 1v1
on ROK If you're still interested in it.

My xfire is xxxjeremyxxx.

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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #38 on: September 22, 2008, 11:30:59 pm »
excruciator---i wouldnt mind versing u :P contact me and we'll c how it goes :P
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Re: Challange anyone to a 1 on 1
« Reply #39 on: November 10, 2008, 08:44:45 pm »
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