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Offline The Rogue

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AK aiming.
« on: January 06, 2008, 05:10:46 am »
hi. i recently redownloaded soldat and i started using the autos. the autos (imo) are like: hk - closerange, aug - midrange, ak - longrange and minimi - longrange as well (support weapon).

anyway, since ak is the longrange auto, i tried using it and it is much harder to aim with @ longrange compared with the aug and minimi. the minimi is understandable but how is the aug, the midrange auto have easier aim @ longrange.. not right.

(if u dont understand)..

AK longrange requires you to place your crosshair higher above from the enemy soldat to hit them.

AUG + Minimi does not require you to place your crosshair as high as the AK.

i think this is dumb and you should somehow change it, like the AK and AUG aim for longrange should be swapped. kthx.
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2008, 05:59:32 am »
Just decrease you mouse sens to play with AK.

But I agree, AK got a bit weaker compared to other auto's during the last version changes.
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #2 on: January 06, 2008, 06:51:18 am »
All weapons got weaker over time. I'd support boosting every single weapon.


But for this, aw no. The AK is powerful enough.
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #3 on: January 06, 2008, 06:53:42 am »
All weapons got weaker over time. I'd support boosting every single weapon.


But for this, aw no. The AK is powerful enough.
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No, it isn't. It's significantly inferior to both minimi and aug. The only time I see anyone playing with AK is when they are just playing around.

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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #4 on: January 06, 2008, 07:07:43 am »
All weapons got weaker over time. I'd support boosting every single weapon.


But for this, aw no. The AK is powerful enough.
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No, it isn't. It's significantly inferior to both minimi and aug. The only time I see anyone playing with AK is when they are just playing around.

You're obviously not so known with the other modes.

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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #5 on: January 06, 2008, 07:58:35 am »
All weapons got weaker over time. I'd support boosting every single weapon.


But for this, aw no. The AK is powerful enough.
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No, it isn't. It's significantly inferior to both minimi and aug. The only time I see anyone playing with AK is when they are just playing around.

You're obviously not so known with the other modes.
As in, in different gamemodes the AK loses that aspect of aiming does it?
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #6 on: January 06, 2008, 08:13:26 am »
It's realistic. The 7.62 bullet has damn fecky traiectory it flies quite staright for ~400 meters (don't remember well) and after that distance it goes fastly down. That's one of reason why Tabuk "sniper rifle" is usless at longer distances (it uses the standard 7.62x39)

5.56x45 which is used in M249 and auG has a way better traiectory and it's more accurate and it flies far but it has disadvantage too. It's so light that it's traiectory can be upseted by wind or by hiting a leaf.
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #7 on: January 06, 2008, 08:32:07 am »
What I think the problem with the AK is that it's too similar to the Minimi now. It used to have a very different firing rate and compensated for that with damage, but now it's only a difference of one tick. It's a minimi with bink and a smaller clip.
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #8 on: January 06, 2008, 08:40:15 am »
Theres no such thing as mid and long range..., unless you can guess someone is coming from like 2 screens away, you get the same range with ak and steyr.

Just go for the overpowered one, steyr.
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #9 on: January 06, 2008, 10:42:42 am »
Theres no such thing as mid and long range..., unless you can guess someone is coming from like 2 screens away, you get the same range with ak and steyr.

Just go for the overpowered one, steyr.
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #10 on: January 06, 2008, 01:34:59 pm »
Theres no such thing as mid and long range..., unless you can guess someone is coming from like 2 screens away, you get the same range with ak and steyr.

Just go for the overpowered one, steyr.

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I don't know if you quoted this because you agree or disagree but I happen to think he has the right idea, skill=range. Any skilled person can use the steyr effectively at a distance of a screen, the spread of the bullets doesn't have enough of an affect to make it much worse than the ak like it probably should be.
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #11 on: January 06, 2008, 05:38:05 pm »
AK is used for close counter maps like nuubia how its compact unlike Ash, where u have a whole lot of space to shoot, unless you go low

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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #12 on: January 06, 2008, 08:21:25 pm »
AK is used for close counter maps like nuubia how its compact unlike Ash, where u have a whole lot of space to shoot, unless you go low
You aren't serious, are you?

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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #13 on: January 06, 2008, 08:33:37 pm »
i was being sarcastic

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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #14 on: January 06, 2008, 08:36:16 pm »

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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #15 on: January 06, 2008, 08:49:17 pm »
yeah. i dont even use ak thats why i was saying that

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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #16 on: January 06, 2008, 10:28:42 pm »
i dont think you understand my point..

what i call longrange is a fullscreen, midrange is halfscreen and closerange is anything less.

when you try to hit someone on the very edge of your screen with the aug, you only need to put your crosshair like 5mm above them. however, when you use ak you need to go like 1cm above..
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #17 on: January 07, 2008, 02:47:59 am »
i dont think you understand my point..

what i call longrange is a fullscreen, midrange is halfscreen and closerange is anything less.

when you try to hit someone on the very edge of your screen with the aug, you only need to put your crosshair like 5mm above them. however, when you use ak you need to go like 1cm above..
Also remember that AK's bullets fly slower, which adds a tad longer delay for the bullet to hit the target @ long range, meaning you need to predict more.
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #18 on: January 07, 2008, 08:04:01 am »
i dont think you understand my point..

what i call longrange is a fullscreen, midrange is halfscreen and closerange is anything less.

when you try to hit someone on the very edge of your screen with the aug, you only need to put your crosshair like 5mm above them. however, when you use ak you need to go like 1cm above..
Any auto that isnt mp5 will hit from one side of the screen to the other, why would you want ak, it loses accuracy over distance(lolng range), just go for steyr, it has a huge bullet speed, almost the same reload as mp5, the accuracy of old ak, and a 30 bullet mag, which is more than you need for each kill. Also, steyr is like... super straight now, which makes it easier to aim.

Unless you wanna spray choke points (which you CAN do well with steyr, since it has a huge pushback.) or kill 2 guys without reloading just go for steyr.

For the record, im not saying ak is underpowered. Im just saying you get a lot more advantages as a steyr user.
« Last Edit: January 07, 2008, 02:20:44 pm by TiReD »
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Re: AK aiming.
« Reply #19 on: January 07, 2008, 08:11:12 am »
Im decent at steyr, from what I can tell, Ak takes around the same time as steyr to kill a person, steyr takes a lit less. But, ak is very accurate in all occasions, while steyrer could do very well on one kill, but suck horribly on the next. So I think its pretty balanced.

and p.s. with a little worm, ak can easily out gun steyr
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