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Offline Kerrazyeye

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Suggestions? Tips?
« on: January 07, 2008, 11:06:50 pm »
I kinda wanted to start to learn how to mod soldat weapons, just need help and suggestions on the stuff I make: Just created this SCAR - L




Suggestions, Critique? 

EDIT: Made a SCAR - H to go with it:


« Last Edit: January 08, 2008, 01:46:48 am by Kerrazyeye »

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« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2008, 02:21:35 pm »
Pretty good if you're starting out.. Shading isn't bad, but could use a little work.

Why's it yellow though?
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« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2008, 02:41:17 pm »
The shapes are OK. But the shading is a bit weak.
Here are some of the tutorials(made by very talented members) I used whe making guns for my mod:

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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2008, 05:25:00 pm »
Pretty good if you're starting out.. Shading isn't bad, but could use a little work.

Why's it yellow though?
Believe me, different modders have different contrast, saturation and callibrated colors at different monitors. In fact, at some PC's colors are similiar but never perfectly same, also every people sees colors in different way.
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Outline is nice but too small contrast and too bright colors (yellow).

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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2008, 12:03:51 am »
Its because....The SCAR's in GRAW are that kind of tan/peachy color, as in a few pictures ive seen. Ill try to fix it up or make a new gun...

Desert SCAR-L w/ Combat sight--> http://screenshots.filesnetwork.com/66/others/scar.jpg

Thanks for the help - I'm mainly trying to start modding because I didnt like Dairy's SCAR's, they just dont seem right to me :-\

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2008, 02:18:03 am »
The "L" one has a bit strange magazine but the "H" is damn beatiful. You just need to add some details.

Btw: color is almost the same as orginall and imo don't need to be changed.

...You also need to add some good holographic or colimator scope :)

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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2008, 06:52:33 am »
I like a lot that Scar-H also your style
What about add a Grenade launcher? :]

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2008, 02:08:42 pm »
I like a lot that Scar-H also your style
What about add a Grenade launcher? :]

I was actually planning on making the ELGM...
Question: Can the ELGM fire without the SCAR? Look at the picture....
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/e6/FN_EGLM.jpg

The "L" one has a bit strange magazine but the "H" is damn beatiful. You just need to add some details.

Btw: color is almost the same as orginall and imo don't need to be changed.

...You also need to add some good holographic or colimator scope :)

(G&G Asg replica)

I'll add accessories like handles/combat scopes/silencers when I get shading and stuff as best as can be....

Thanks again, means alot from you super awesome modders.

EDIT: Fixed up the magazine for SCAR-L, looks much better then before IMO. Im gonna darken the colors a wee bit and fix the shading. I just started an XM8 compact for the MP5 slot - and after I'm done work it into its other configurations (stock, sniper, support).

My ambition is to make a Future Force Warrior/GRAW full mod.
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Re: Suggestions? Tips?
« Reply #8 on: January 10, 2008, 06:13:50 am »
Nice one but I quess its a little bit too much plain. And by the way whats so wrong on my SCARs ?

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2008, 08:05:30 am »
EDIT: Fixed up the magazine for SCAR-L, looks much better then before IMO.

could you show us the image of the new one? 'Cause I can't spot the difference :)

I've also found the bug on the SCAR-H. It has too long magazine. The real one looks like this:


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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2008, 09:11:02 am »
New SCAR L:




New SCAR H:




I just have to fix up the magazine for SCAR-H I think....

M8 Compact:




Nice one but I quess its a little bit too much plain. And by the way whats so wrong on my SCARs ?
Oh, they're fine, it just seems kinda squished together alittle...and a handle on a SCAR-L seems wierd. I love your mods Dairy, BF2 is awesome  :P
EDIT: Fixed up the magazine for SCAR-L, looks much better then before IMO.

could you show us the image of the new one? 'Cause I can't spot the difference :)

I've also found the bug on the SCAR-H. It has too long magazine. The real one looks like this:
Ill shorten it a pixel...That pic is wrong? SCAR-H uses 7.62 NATO. Look at the magazine  :-\

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2008, 09:25:41 am »
Ill shorten it a pixel...That pic is wrong? SCAR-H uses 7.62 NATO. Look at the magazine  :-\

Oh yes, it's bulls*it wroten on it :) I didn't spoted that when i was pasting a link here :)

New SCAR-L is way better but H is damn worser imo :)

I mean that:

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« Reply #12 on: January 10, 2008, 11:21:19 am »
I like more your other style, he 1st one...
You can do a great weapon without a lot of colours, but is your style :]
CAn you add the other scope and add the Grenade launcher please? :P

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« Reply #13 on: January 10, 2008, 11:33:10 pm »
I like more your other style, he 1st one...
You can do a great weapon without a lot of colours, but is your style :]
CAn you add the other scope and add the Grenade launcher please? :P
Yeah, sure. Ill do it after I finish up my M8. So you want the SCAR - L/H to have both the GL and scope? Or what combinations of accessories do you want on them?

On the SCAR - H I added a darker line where the magazine clips into the gun to better differentiate between both parts - similar to what I did on the newer SCAR - L. I think it looks much better because of it. I kinda like the newer style, but some of you like the older - maybe I'll stack both on top of each other and do half of each (top one with 50% opacity)  :P

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« Reply #14 on: January 11, 2008, 08:03:01 am »
You can do different accesories to add to the weapon. Like:
 1 - Normal Scar - L/H
 2 - + GL
 3 - + Scope
 4 - + Handle

that's my idea...

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« Reply #15 on: January 11, 2008, 08:18:56 am »
You can make as many configurations as you want. Few examples:

SCAR-L + ACOG + vertical grip

SCAR-L + EoTech + vertical grip with mounted flashlight in.

And much more....

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« Reply #16 on: January 16, 2008, 01:07:47 am »
Just made the somewhat fictional MR-C from GRAW (Crye Modular Caseless Rifle)

My best work to date IMO (took about 5 minutes whereas others took 30 minutes to an hour)



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« Reply #17 on: January 16, 2008, 01:21:32 am »
Just made the somewhat fictional MR-C from GRAW (Crye Modular Caseless Rifle)

My best work to date IMO (took about 5 minutes whereas others took 30 minutes to an hour)



It's a little boxy near the end of it and it could use a few Alpha pixels in the middle of the grip.
But it;s good colours. :D
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« Reply #18 on: January 16, 2008, 02:21:42 am »
Newest SCARS:








The XM8's are giving me nothing but trouble...I quit trying to make them.

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« Reply #19 on: January 16, 2008, 05:50:34 am »
New SCARs are really good ;)

Date Posted: 16 January 2008, 10:51:52
I've spoted one thing - shell ejector is too long it should be as long as the numver of inside mag pixels + 1 pixel (4). And in "H" it should be higher (bigger shell diameter).

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« Reply #20 on: January 16, 2008, 06:31:22 am »
Nice shading on the MR-C although the shape really is too boxy... The SCARs would look a lot better with that style of shading.
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« Reply #21 on: January 16, 2008, 09:53:33 am »
Oh feck, I should take modding (pixelart) less linear and more seriously now. ::)
Good work, We have probably new growing talented modder. :P
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2008, 12:45:15 pm »
Update:

2x 90two (1)

M8 Compact (2)

SCAR-H (3)

MR-C (4)

SCAR-L (4)

M1014 (5)

M107 (8)

LWRC SABR (9)

Px4 (10)

Sharp Pointy Knife w/ holes (knife)

M72E10 LAW (law)


Bracketed numbers dictate what weapon they replace. None of these guns are final. Might make (semi?)transparent holes in the M8 compact, LWRC SABR, and M107. Forgot ironsights for LWRC SABR, ill add em soon. Now that i look at it the M8 needs a new shading job around the top left edges.

Statgun will be a (X)M312
I need suggestions on a ruger replacement - I was thinking Rx4, but its 5.56 semiauto and has 30 round clip - Then I thought Cx4 but it fires crappy pistol ammunition. (going for somewhat realism here). Guns gotta be designed/made 1990's-->2010ish (Ill probably just make it a gauss or railgun)

Criticism? Suggestions?

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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2008, 02:14:21 pm »
I wouldn't suggest using two very similar weapons (Scars H & L in this case) in the same mod. It gets confusing during play when you want to know what your enemy's using. Then again, you could just use the MR-C and one of the SCARs, so it's not really a problem...

I'd suggest some slightly more drastic shading on the LWRC SABR, and a PSG-1 for the ruger replacement.
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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2008, 05:20:35 pm »
I wouldn't suggest using two very similar weapons (Scars H & L in this case) in the same mod. It gets confusing during play when you want to know what your enemy's using. Then again, you could just use the MR-C and one of the SCARs, so it's not really a problem...

I'd suggest some slightly more drastic shading on the LWRC SABR, and a PSG-1 for the ruger replacement.
Yeah, the SCAR-L an MR-C are  Steyr replacements, I just made the SCAR-L because it was a simple to do extra weapon....

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« Reply #25 on: February 29, 2008, 10:35:46 pm »
Sorry to be a total melonhead (yes, melonhead.), but what program do you guys use to make these guns? (Sorry, been playing for a couple months, just got interested in modding, unfortunately.)  :P
   Is it just some painting program ersumpin'?

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« Reply #26 on: February 29, 2008, 11:12:57 pm »
Some people just use paint, but I'm a noobcake so i use photoshop cs3 (mostly just the pencil tool though)

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« Reply #27 on: February 29, 2008, 11:24:34 pm »
Hah. Good, I'm just using paint. Trying to make a Vektor CR 21 (Look it up, it's beasty.) but it's no going very well.  :P
                 
                 Any advice for the fellow newbie modder?  ;D Much obliged.
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« Reply #28 on: March 01, 2008, 09:21:35 am »
Back on the first page of this topic, 3rd reply theres a bunch of step by step pictures to help you out.

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« Reply #29 on: March 01, 2008, 09:44:17 am »
Or you could use this. Some people dislike the use of shrinking because it's 'lazy', but it you honestly care more about how it was made than the end result, drawing guns isn't what you should be worrying about.
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« Reply #30 on: March 01, 2008, 01:44:41 pm »
Frankly I think it looked worse after you shaded it. I mean it just lost all definition because there's no light/shade systems... >.<
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« Reply #31 on: March 01, 2008, 05:30:12 pm »
I thought the same thing; I was just going through the steps I normally do to give an example. I'd say I overdid the detail to the point where it didn't look like the same gun.

Were I just making a gun I would have stopped at step 4, but saying "Find a weapon and shrink it" isn't much of a tutorial, eh?

I wish I'd saved a step by step on one of my better weapons...
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« Reply #32 on: March 01, 2008, 05:33:06 pm »
Well sometimes increasing contrast works for shrinkydinks if you're really in the shrinkage mood...
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« Reply #33 on: March 01, 2008, 05:36:43 pm »
Easier said than done when it comes to MS paint. See, it's things like this that make me want to learn how to use Photoshop.
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« Reply #34 on: March 01, 2008, 05:40:26 pm »
Try Image -> Adjust -> Brightness/Contrast.
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