Who are you voting for?

[Graham]

Religion+Politics=Mess. Feel free to be a devout christian, catholic, Jew, Muslim, or follower of Scientology, just leave religion at home and out of a place where it can turn things sour pretty fast. Especially since you're in a position of power and many many people will not agree with your views.

Won't happen, playing religion can help get votes.

[Radical Terrorist]

And lose some, but lets face it, most Americans are going to be Christian/Catholic. And majority votes wins.

[frogboy]

Isn't Ron Paul the one who supports getting rid of hundreds of government departments under the guise of his fairytale free market, installing the gold standard, which was deemed impractical in the 1930s, let alone today and either knowingly or unknowingly published, for over a decade, a racist newsletter under his name?

[n00bface]

I love racist newsletters

who the fuck would vote huckabee?  the guy is going around telling everyone that the reason he is leading in the polls is because of a "greater power"

i'd probably vote for clinton..it's hard picking between a chick and a black dude, but black dudes are just gross.

besides, bIRAQ hussein OSAMA

[Radical Terrorist]

Isn't Ron Paul the one who supports getting rid of hundreds of government departments under the guise of his fairytale free market, installing the gold standard, which was deemed impractical in the 1930s, let alone today and either knowingly or unknowingly published, for over a decade, a racist newsletter under his name?

Shh, read FLAB's Sig. You make big boom happen saying that!

[Vltava]

Isn't Ron Paul the one who supports getting rid of hundreds of government departments under the guise of his fairytale free market, installing the gold standard, which was deemed impractical in the 1930s, let alone today and either knowingly or unknowingly published, for over a decade, a racist newsletter under his name?

Yes, in addition to pulling out of the UN and NATO. Paul advocates "free trade", but without these organizations, without sanctions in South Korea, how are we going to keep trade free? Our withdrawal into the dark ages under Paul would allow other forces to step into America's place. He also wants to repeal the Taiwan Relations Act, effectively hindering further trade in Asia. At least he tries.

[Radical Terrorist]

Political Punditry is gonna tear this guy apart limb from limb...

Withdrawal from the UN/NATO? Ballsy, and anyone who hasn't been hiding out in a bunker for the past 80 years will not like that. At all.

[Svirin Kerath]

In order of preference, from very high to very low.

Obama
Paul
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Clinton
John Kerry
everyone else

[Kszchroink]

huckabee or RON PAUL RON PAUL RON PAUL are the comedy options so i guess i'd go with either of those

[bja888]

Ok, ok....

A little more about my candidate of choice.
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=About.Home

Every election a bunch of people raise money travel all across the US lieing and telling you only what you want to hear so they can secure their place in history. I like him cuz he always speaks the truth. It causes unfavorable press because the US press likes to make a big deal of nothing, but it is guy ain't gonna lie to us about WMDs.
When it comes to his religions views people people start acting like southern redneck children on the subject of skin color. The president does not have the power to force religion on the citizens of the US. A presidents religion is irrelevantly. Just look at Bush, he claims to be Christian but he sure as hell gets a kick out of killing people in the middle east.

Anyway,
Endorsed by Chuck Norris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjYv2YW6azE

[frogboy]

When it comes to his religions views people people start acting like southern redneck children on the subject of skin color. The president does not have the power to force religion on the citizens of the US. A presidents religion is irrelevantly. Just look at Bush, he claims to be Christian but he sure as hell gets a kick out of killing people in the middle east.

You can't honestly say that many "controversial" conservative opinions - abortion, homosexual rights, stem cells, and drug use, for example, aren't rooted in the bible and fundamentalist christian beliefs. And you can't honestly say that a politician, regardless of political views, is completely truthful.

Especially a guy who believed that AIDS patients should be quarantined, when it was known 5 years prior that there was no causal connection, and claims that being a pastor is good experience for leading a country.

[tehsnipah]

ima go for first non-white guy Obama!

[bja888]

You can't honestly say that many "controversial" conservative opinions - abortion, homosexual rights, stem cells, and drug use, for example, aren't rooted in the bible and fundamentalist christian beliefs.

Those are all topics for congress buddy. President doesn't get to touch those with a 10 foot pole.

And you can't honestly say that a politician, regardless of political views, is completely truthful.

No, I can't. But I think he is the most honest one out there right now.

Especially a guy who believed that AIDS patients should be quarantined, when it was known 5 years prior that there was no causal connection, and claims that being a pastor is good experience for leading a country.

Are there any direct quotes in that statement? Or are you trying to find something just to complain about?

ima go for first non-white guy Obama!

Leadership skills mean nothing to you, do they.

[a-4-year-old]

You can't honestly say that many "controversial" conservative opinions - abortion, homosexual rights, stem cells, and drug use, for example, aren't rooted in the bible and fundamentalist christian beliefs.

Those are all topics for congress buddy. President doesn't get to touch those with a 10 foot pole.

Until he vetos everything.

Andrew Jackson was a great president, aside from the whole moving Indians off their land thing. He vetoed everything, and he came closest to bringing the country out of debt.

[Mangled*]

A 2 party system is not a fair system.

The outcome doesn't matter though, what matters is that Bush is taken out of office.

Anyway you can't tell which candidate is corrupt until he's already in office.

[FliesLikeABrick]

Isn't Ron Paul the one who supports getting rid of hundreds of government departments under the guise of his fairytale free market, installing the gold standard, which was deemed impractical in the 1930s, let alone today and either knowingly or unknowingly published, for over a decade, a racist newsletter under his name?

He supports getting rid of them at a federal level and letting states handle those responsibilities.  Education, for example, was something that was always supposed to be handled by states, not the federal government.  When these powers are transferred to the states, they are exercised much more efficiently and appropriately for the state's interests.

Yes, the paper was published in his name but without his knowledge/consent, etc.  With Ron Paul it is a matter of looking past the FUD on things like that.

Isn't Ron Paul the one who supports getting rid of hundreds of government departments under the guise of his fairytale free market, installing the gold standard, which was deemed impractical in the 1930s, let alone today and either knowingly or unknowingly published, for over a decade, a racist newsletter under his name?

Yes, in addition to pulling out of the UN and NATO. Paul advocates "free trade", but without these organizations, without sanctions in South Korea, how are we going to keep trade free? Our withdrawal into the dark ages under Paul would allow other forces to step into America's place. He also wants to repeal the Taiwan Relations Act, effectively hindering further trade in Asia. At least he tries.

Are you saying that is a good or bad thing?

I am googling more about it, though my girlfriend seems to know more about it and think it is a good idea... I'll probably just ask her to explain it to me

http://www.antiwar.com/paul/?articleid=2256
http://www.fdrs.org/nato_facts.html
google search on the matter


As for Huckabee:

Ok, ok....

A little more about my candidate of choice.
http://www.mikehuckabee.com/?FuseAction=About.Home

Every election a bunch of people raise money travel all across the US lieing and telling you only what you want to hear so they can secure their place in history. I like him cuz he always speaks the truth. It causes unfavorable press because the US press likes to make a big deal of nothing, but it is guy ain't gonna lie to us about WMDs.
When it comes to his religions views people people start acting like southern redneck children on the subject of skin color. The president does not have the power to force religion on the citizens of the US. A presidents religion is irrelevantly. Just look at Bush, he claims to be Christian but he sure as hell gets a kick out of killing people in the middle east.

Anyway,
Endorsed by Chuck Norris
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjYv2YW6azE

He's a ridiculously religious guy.  He wants to modify the constitution to include all kinds of stuff about religion.  Chuck Norris is nearly a religious fanatic, his support means nothing to me.

Almost every word out of Huckabee's mouth has to do with religion, and that scares me.  Ron Paul is religious, but he keeps that in his personal life and almost never says anything about it publicly with respect to his candidacy.

Religion+Politics=Mess. Feel free to be a devout christian, catholic, Jew, Muslim, or follower of Scientology, just leave religion at home and out of a place where it can turn things sour pretty fast. Especially since you're in a position of power and many many people will not agree with your views.

Won't happen, playing religion can help get votes.

Using religion to get votes is sleezy and alluding to incorporating religion into your presidency is scary.  One of my first criteria for figuring out which candidates to ignore was "Are they outwardly super-religious?"

[Radical Terrorist]

"Jesus Loves America"

Ok, so they just secured the votes of everyone south of Arizona... That's the sad truth. The Holy Rollers will vote for the holy rollers.

[8th_account]

Bricks,

Ron Paul said in a video that he didn't accept evolution as a theory. Still think a man that hasn't been taught biology or just refutes the scientific method in favour of religious principles is a man worthy of full ops?

edit
http://digg.com/2008_us_elections/Ron_Paul_Does_Not_Accept_Evolution_2

[Vltava]

FLAB, aside from Paul's policy of low foreign intervention, he's also against net neutrality and advocates repealing several anti-trust acts that keep our country safe from corporate control. I don't know about you, but I like my net neutral and my country monopoly-free. In the Jefferson years, such ideals may have been perfect, but we live in the twenty-first century. I like Paul, he's an honest man, but his ideals just aren't practical. The Articles of Confederation didn't work; state individuality isn't the answer. Essentially, under Paul, Washington can't tell you you can't get an abortion, but Salem can. Washington can't deny a gay couple they have no rights, but Atlanta can. If Congress weren't in the way, he'd go as far as to privatize everything. No more socialized fire protection, police, or mail. The problem with privatization is that corporations have all the rights of a human but none of the morals. It's what makes corporations like Bechtel royally screw an entire population.

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

Isn't Ron Paul the one who supports getting rid of hundreds of government departments under the guise of his fairytale free market

No, he supports getting rid of them because the Constitution says that those should be the states' responsibility (such as the department of education).

installing the gold standard, which was deemed impractical in the 1930s let alone today

We already discussed this in another thread.

and either knowingly or unknowingly published, for over a decade, a racist newsletter under his name?

Don't know anything about this.