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[bja888]

The French Revolution (1789–1799)

I'm talking about France from 1789 to 1795, fool.

Apparently so am I.

I'm talking about the radicals that took down the monarchy and instituted commune rule preceding the Reign of Terror.

The Reign of Terror (5 September 1793 – 28 July 1794)

Geee. A 4 year government. What a shining example of communism at work.

[Vltava]

Geee. A 4 year government. What a shining example of communism at work.

Historical examples vary, but anarchy is definitely not a result. With France, a revolution that at first resulted in anarchy quickly turned statist, quite the opposite.

Originally my point was that statism was the result of anarchy in the case of the French Revolution, as you so pointedly denied.

I never said the commune brought statism (also never said communism) in entirety over France. The Paris Commune merely was responsible for the Storming of the Bastille and much radical activity until 1795.

I'm talking about France from 1789 to 1795, fool.

Apparently so am I.

What you had said was that the government of the revolution was the monarchy, completely nonsensical.

The French revolution was against the monarchy. Not a communist party.

[bja888]

I never said the commune brought statism (also never said communism) in entirety over France. The Paris Commune merely was responsible for the Storming of the Bastille and much radical activity until 1795.

So you saying you where not contributing to the discussion of communism? You just decided to spit out historical fact #87,286. Leaving my to assume you where implying something about the subject at hand?

Here is an example...

Historical examples vary, but anarchy is definitely not a result. With France, a revolution that at first resulted in anarchy quickly turned statist, quite the opposite.

"Coke machines spit out many different flavors, but not Cherry Coke. At the Coke machine down the street, I kicked it and a Diet Coke came out, which is not Cherry Coke."

Isn't that implying that your likely get a Diet Coke out of the Coke machine? To bad we are talking about Cherry Coke, and not kicking Coke machines!

(Here is a key, just in case your confused)
Coke Machines =  Countries
Cherry Coke = Communism
kicked = Anarchy
Diet Coke = Statism

[{LAW} Gamer_2k4]

Capitalism and Communism are both as bad as each other. They are both systems where a select few people at the top end up with all the money. Capitalism is only slightly fairer.

Except with capitalism, the select few worked to get there and were rewarded for their efforts.

[PaFel]

"This website has no affiliation whatsoever with the owner of this software program, and provides ONLY a link to the software program.
Copyright 2005,2008firefox.com All rights reserved."

What? Do I understand it well? You pay and they give you the link to main firefox download page

Btw: I see that topic has changed a "little"...

[bja888]

"This website has no affiliation whatsoever with the owner of this software program, and provides ONLY a link to the software program.
Copyright 2005,2008firefox.com All rights reserved."

What? Do I understand it well? You pay and they give you the link to main firefox download page

The question is, should that be allowed? Do you know anyone who would fall for it?

Btw: I see that topic has changed a "little"...

Blame 4 year old for blaming communism.

[a-4-year-old]

Anyone nerdy enough to know of, and bother getting, firefox would not fall for some stupid scam.

[Vltava]

I never said the commune brought statism (also never said communism) in entirety over France. The Paris Commune merely was responsible for the Storming of the Bastille and much radical activity until 1795.

So you saying you where not contributing to the discussion of communism? You just decided to spit out historical fact #87,286. Leaving my to assume you where implying something about the subject at hand?

Here is an example...

Historical examples vary, but anarchy is definitely not a result. With France, a revolution that at first resulted in anarchy quickly turned statist, quite the opposite.

"Coke machines spit out many different flavors, but not Cherry Coke. At the Coke machine down the street, I kicked it and a Diet Coke came out, which is not Cherry Coke."

Isn't that implying that your likely get a Diet Coke out of the Coke machine? To bad we are talking about Cherry Coke, and not kicking Coke machines!

(Here is a key, just in case your confused)
Coke Machines =  Countries
Cherry Coke = Communism
kicked = Anarchy
Diet Coke = Statism

Bja888, you are a presumptuous fool.

Did you even read what I said? I said that the lawlessness (anarchy) was caused by communism.

I was disproving that until you entered the discussion with your head miles up your ass.

[a-4-year-old]

You call giving an example of something barely related to communism in an entirely different country AND time period "disproving?"

[Vltava]

You call giving an example of something barely related to communism in an entirely different country AND time period "disproving?"

How is statism not related to communism? What country did you mention in the first place?

Communism does not lead to anarchy, fool.

[a-4-year-old]

You call giving an example of something barely related to communism in an entirely different country AND time period "disproving?"

How is statism not related to communism? What country did you mention in the first place?

Communism does not lead to anarchy, fool.

The site is from russia, so russia would be the country I was referring to. Secondly, you mention the french revolution, which happened way before the idea of communism existed. The result of the resolution was socialist at best. The economy was barely changed (still horrible, but not communist) the only thing that was remotely communist about it was that the nobility was overthrown (which is not unique to communism)

[Vltava]

you mention the french revolution, which happened way before the idea of communism existed. The result of the resolution was socialist at best. The economy was barely changed (still horrible, but not communist) the only thing that was remotely communist about it was that the nobility was overthrown (which is not unique to communism)

That's silly.

It is usually considered a branch of the broader socialist movement that draws on the various political and intellectual movements that trace their origins back to the work of theorists of the Industrial Revolution and the French Revolution.

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communism.

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[Vltava]

I linked Wikipedia out of a lack of patience to sort through different sources. Your whole argument about communism not existing at the time of the French Revolution is absurd, though. Why don't you actually post some evidence/support instead of making broad generalizations about the nature of the French Revolution?

[a-4-year-old]

you seem to think that anything that shares a similar name is obviously the same, the paris commune was nothing more then a totalitarian rule for 4 years who's sole reason for existence was to get rid of the monarchy it is nothing more than a coup.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Commune_%28French_Revolution%29

[Vltava]

It was quite statist; everyone had to be "equal" and addressed each other as "citizen". There was no private property. Do you even know what a commune is?

8.   the Commune. Also called Commune of Paris, Paris Commune.
   a.   a revolutionary committee that took the place of the municipality of Paris in the revolution of 1789, usurped the authority of the state, and was suppressed by the National Convention in 1794.
   b.   a socialistic government of Paris from March 18 to May 27, 1871.

[The Bone Collector]

I thought the software was free. Why am I being asked to pay?
The software is free. You are paying for the online help and support and the online tutorials for the lifetime of the membership.

Ahem... lets get a few viruses as well eh?

[a-4-year-old]

It was quite statist; everyone had to be "equal" and addressed each other as "citizen". There was no private property. Do you even know what a commune is?

This was repealed since farmers got so pissy, and even if they hadn't repealed it, the commune of paris was in power for such a short time that nothing significant happened. they tried it, but ultimately they were not communist.

We are arguing a moot point, since you never really made a point.

Historical examples vary, but anarchy is definitely not a result. With France, a revolution that at first resulted in anarchy quickly turned statist, quite the opposite.

This just isn't true, France was a Monarchy before that period, not anarchy. And if it was not overthrown, it would have collapsed due to a number of different problems.

[bja888]

I thought the software was free. Why am I being asked to pay?
The software is free. You are paying for the online help and support and the online tutorials for the lifetime of the membership.

Ahem... lets get a few viruses as well eh?

Nice attempt to get back on topic.

Do you really think that once they get your money they will threaten to loose your subscription by giving you a virus?

Then again, I read a recent article on how viruses are proving to be profitable.

[a-4-year-old]

I thought the software was free. Why am I being asked to pay?
The software is free. You are paying for the online help and support and the online tutorials for the lifetime of the membership.

Ahem... lets get a few viruses as well eh?

Nice attempt to get back on topic.

Do you really think that once they get your money they will threaten to loose your subscription by giving you a virus?

Then again, I read a recent article on how viruses are proving to be profitable.

is a one time shot... what do they care?