Socom

[-Major-]

lol, this topic is more than 2 years old.
and no, socom is not the most overpowered gun in the game. it can work very well, but primary weapons ussualy beat it, unless the opponent is reloading or if you make good use of the nades.

[DarkCrusade]

Necroposting is bad for your health.

Consider reading the whole topic again, and especially take a look at STM's big post. The pistol is actually the weapon that is balanced BEST. Why do you think people use primaries if they can use a "so overpowered" gun like the pistol? So common sense disagrees, and common sense is what you apparently lack

[Monsteri]

Off topic: I want the USSOCOM to have 171 +1 = 172 damage D=

Anyway, back on topic:

USSOCOM? It's an excellent weapon, very formidable in the hands of a skilled player.

1. Exactly 6 shots can kill a single opponent
2. It holds 12 ammo per clip
3. It has the fastest reload of all choosable(can be selected from weapon menu) guns in Soldat
4. Very fast firing rate for a semi-automatic: 12 ticks
BUT
It has a low bullet speed (180), so it is built for close or mid-range encounters.

^ With this in mind, the USSOCOM is a very strong secondary weapon, for backup and finishing off injured(low HP) or disadvantaged (killing a binked a Barret or a reloading M79 for example) opponents or even chasing. It is kinda like a mini-version of the DEs. But the fact remains that:

1. In the hands of two equally skilled players, one with a Primary weapon VS one with the Socom, the Primary weapon is most likely to win 95% of the time, depending on what kind of primary weapon you are talking about and the situation. Typically the primary wins, unless the primary is reloading, made a terrible miss with slow guns like Barret or M79, or has been insanely binked. But is that the case all the time? No. And all the autos can easily beat the Socom.

2. It is the only secondary weapon that can't kill in one hit. What's more, no one's aim is 100/100 and there's lag/bullet reg etc, and it is not always possible to kill a person even with one full clip.

USSOCOM is perfect. No change needed at all.

Thats damn right.

[SoldatFire]

for me the socom is perfect balanced 
and it makes a big psychical aspect cause its small but got a awesome punch
and i like it cause it is the only weapon that can pull up the barrett up to life because barrett with knife saw and law isnt good (for me) 

[Clawbug]

Perfectly balanced when it can deal more damage per second than AK, AUG or Minimi? What the eff?

[Monsteri]

Socom is one of our best weapons!

[Clawbug]

Socom is one of our best weapons!

If it is better or worse than others then it is unbalanced and requires balancing.

[Monsteri]

I didn't mean that and you know it 

[SoldatFire]

if the socom gets power down i dont think there will be any snipers(barrett's) more 

[Clawbug]

if the socom gets power down i dont think there will be any snipers(barrett's) more 

No need to nerf it because other weapons should be buffed instead for faster and more fun gameplay.

[demoniac93]

if the socom gets power down i dont think there will be any snipers(barrett's) more 

No need to nerf it because other weapons should be buffed instead for faster and more fun gameplay.

Well, this sounded like a good idea back when we first hit .5, but if you were active during 1.4.2 and actually played Soldat when .5 first came out, you'll have noticed how drastically the weapon buffs changed gameplay, Soldat become very much like CS (Something MM I suppose shouldn't like) in the way that players started dying a whole lot faster...--->More respawning.

[Clawbug]

if the socom gets power down i dont think there will be any snipers(barrett's) more 

No need to nerf it because other weapons should be buffed instead for faster and more fun gameplay.

Well, this sounded like a good idea back when we first hit .5, but if you were active during 1.4.2 and actually played Soldat when .5 first came out, you'll have noticed how drastically the weapon buffs changed gameplay, Soldat become very much like CS (Something MM I suppose shouldn't like) in the way that players started dying a whole lot faster...--->More respawning.

As far as I can tell, that wasn't a problem back in 1.2/1.2.1, ask anyone who played back then.

[Monsteri]

Well, I'd still keep them damaging people

[SoldatFire]

and why touch the dmg,and fire rate maybe make a bit longer reload
if you got a socom and you get shooted your acc is going to be worser then a BINK-ed BARRET!!! so it keeps its power for right!

[Monsteri]

No no no don't touch to it at all.

[STM1993]

Last balance I saw (sogeking v30), they experimented with a rather drastically modified Socom - lowered damage for an increased rate of fire.

// Socom        dmg -26, fireinterval -2, reload -13, moveacc -1

[USSOCOM]
Damage=148
FireInterval=10
Ammo=12
ReloadTime=52
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=0
Recoil=0
Aimlag=0

[SoldatFire]

Last balance I saw (sogeking v30), they experimented with a rather drastically modified Socom - lowered damage for an increased rate of fire.

// Socom        dmg -26, fireinterval -2, reload -13, moveacc -1

[USSOCOM]
Damage=148
FireInterval=10
Ammo=12
ReloadTime=52
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=0
Recoil=0
Aimlag=0

C**P

[10th_account]

Don't knock it till you try it.

[Foxconn]

[USSOCOM]
Damage=501
FireInterval=1
Ammo=200
ReloadTime=1
Speed=360
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=0
Recoil=0
Aimlag=0

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[thegrandmaster]

Last balance I saw (sogeking v30), they experimented with a rather drastically modified Socom - lowered damage for an increased rate of fire.

// Socom        dmg -26, fireinterval -2, reload -13, moveacc -1

[USSOCOM]
Damage=148
FireInterval=10
Ammo=12
ReloadTime=52
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=0
Recoil=0
Aimlag=0

If looking at realism, I agree with that mod (see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p6-yrf2US3A). Else, USSOCOM is fine as it is. When mastered it's very useful indeed.