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Offline Drizzy

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Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot. Teh Idea
« on: March 25, 2008, 11:40:05 am »
I came up with this idea watching other games (probably I am not first) but let's get to the point. I haven't found any other topics like this. Only in MonK's topic about DE, there was only few words.


What do you think about moding DEagles, so you would shoot alternately, not 2 guns at once, so they would be faster instead of "strong"  ??? ?? I tried something like that, but with lowering power instead of "deleting" 1 bullet (cuzz I don't know where change it :(). I tested it on bots and I must say that I had a lot of fun. They were something like fusion of HK & Ruger. Guy with full life: 2-4 shots=kills although those 2 was hard to do. I also noticed that they are much easier to use.


Although for someone may be it fun but for someone not, so thats why I ask you what you do think about that. I predict that some DEaglers would went emo, whine and kill themselves if they would see something like that , not what they usualy used to butI may be wrong, it's just a prediction.

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If someone would be bored and would like to test it, here is what I have now (Most of this were more or less lowered/increased twice. Rest just left in peace)

Realistic:
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[Desert Eagles]
Damage=90
FireInterval=13
Ammo=14
ReloadTime=106
Speed=190
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=2
Recoil=30

Yeah, and I also don't forget about those normal mode, so I just quickly fu**ed up this. If you think that damage is too low/high, change it on your own:
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[Desert Eagles]
Damage=92
FireInterval=13
Ammo=14
ReloadTime=94
Speed=190
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

PPS:
Ow yeah, and if you know how to change to shoot with 1 bullet instead of 2, I would be happy if you will write it. I also would like to see opinions (mainly from some DEagler)
« Last Edit: March 27, 2008, 12:10:33 pm by Drizzy »

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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #1 on: March 25, 2008, 12:03:56 pm »
It isn't a bad idea, but I think it shouldn't be taken. The deagle's arc and slow rate combined with lots of power make it so special and also, I don't know wether it's even possible to change that.
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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #2 on: March 25, 2008, 12:40:05 pm »
The dual bullet mode always make me problems when modding and I really like your idea 'cause of realistic but I think that we should keep it orginality and leave this weapons as it is. :)

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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2008, 01:39:11 pm »
Sound alot like the USSOCOM

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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2008, 01:41:29 pm »
Yeah, I also was thinking that some crazy tester may try and bring this idea to live causing mess in Soldat and whinning some of DEaglers, like I mentioned above. But I knew that is only a dream and just smilling when it came to my mind :). Besides DEagles had it change once, long time ago (adding second pistol)

Anyway I also didn't like that I "global Soldat change" that have high possibility to be forgotten just like other topics like Steyr AUG with scope etc. but once one thought came to my mind (Yes, I am thinker and dreamer ::)): "Why it must be global change?? Servers have their own weapon mod, so some hardcored server owner may take it and try it, so it wouldn't make big mess" or something like that. Even so, I also start smile when this come to my mind ;D

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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #5 on: March 25, 2008, 02:20:21 pm »
AUG with scope wasn't forgotten. It was turned down.
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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2008, 08:40:28 pm »
Honestly, it sounds good in theory but it would just be another Socom, it would also make aiming drastically harder (not a bad thing just irritating). This may just be an Eaglers whine, but I don't think it would work right. The dual bullet right now is one of the great factors that make the eagles such a fun and strange weapon.

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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2008, 11:40:00 pm »
Ow yeah, and if you know how to change to shoot with 1 bullet instead of 2, I would be happy if you will write it.
It's impossible to change this...


You simply made 2nd socom, which isn't needed. DE's are ok.

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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2008, 01:49:15 am »
Hmmm.... It really would be something like socom >:(

Honestly, it sounds good in theory but it would just be another Socom, it would also make aiming drastically harder (not a bad thing just irritating). This may just be an Eaglers whine, but I don't think it would work right. The dual bullet right now is one of the great factors that make the eagles such a fun and strange weapon.
Like I said, I tested it, and for me it's easier. I will only add that I am realistic player that use Steyr, so for me it's just the matter of "click, click". And it haven't that, what he have in Ruger - great bink... At least not that big :P. But yeah, it is like socom. I haven't noticed >:(

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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2008, 01:55:38 am »
Alternate firing of bullets sounds kind of cool.
But i doubt MM would want it changed.
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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #10 on: March 26, 2008, 03:30:29 am »
Not a bad idea, it's a good idea to be able to make dual-wield guns and allow the option of firing one shot at a time. However, I don't think this is suitable for Soldat.

It is too similar to the USSOCOM if that was the case... DEs are made unique for its versatility and ability to shoot quite quickly and deal alot of damage in a single shot (which is = 2 bullets) but with limited range.

So... no.
« Last Edit: March 26, 2008, 03:32:38 am by STM1993 »

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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #11 on: March 26, 2008, 07:22:19 am »
I can see where you're coming from, But instead of making it so it has to be clicked for every shot, maybe make it so that 1 click= two separate bullets fire with an interval between them.
I think this should at least be tested by the beta testers, if it's possible, It would make the DEagles much more appealing to me, as well as a larger number of people too.
It would still be a semi-auto, But it would have a slightly faster fire interval. It just seems like the smart thing to do, who actually would fire two massively powerful guns at the same time? (And i know it's like playing the Realistic card but i'm not trying to say; BECAUSE IT'S REALISTIKE!" I just think it's worth testing.)
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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #12 on: March 26, 2008, 07:37:27 am »
I can see where you're coming from, But instead of making it so it has to be clicked for every shot, maybe make it so that 1 click= two separate bullets fire with an interval between them.
I think this should at least be tested by the beta testers, if it's possible, It would make the DEagles much more appealing to me, as well as a larger number of people too.
It would still be a semi-auto, But it would have a slightly faster fire interval. It just seems like the smart thing to do, who actually would fire two massively powerful guns at the same time? (And i know it's like playing the Realistic card but i'm not trying to say; BECAUSE IT'S REALISTIKE!" I just think it's worth testing.)
yea...this is what im my mind in these past yrs. and i posted a topic for this(its not well said though)

Edit: i'd keep searching for that topic, minutes and i remember i've erased it.... lol

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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #13 on: March 26, 2008, 07:42:39 am »
Perhaps if you cut the damage in half to make it even, it would still be the same, it would have a fast rate of fire and slight bullet speed increase, but less damage to makeup for the faster speed.
Just a thought.
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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #14 on: March 27, 2008, 12:40:41 am »
No ty, keep the deagles the way it is.

Its just gonna be another socom as most peep said, and not a unique weapon.

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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #15 on: March 27, 2008, 01:41:36 am »
I love my deagles as they are. If you ruined those, I'd be shit outta luck in Soldat.
Don't nerf my fave gun :(
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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #16 on: March 27, 2008, 03:25:56 am »
But it would be unique, it would just have a faster firing rate and 14 bullets instead of just 7, (7 in each gun).
I still think it's a good idea, and i doubt it would be a nerf.
Why don't you think it's a good idea, and don't just whinge about how "but ppls will cry because DEagles will be useless!!!"
Because that's not exactly true.
Why would it be a bad idea?
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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #17 on: March 27, 2008, 03:35:59 am »
But it would be unique, it would just have a faster firing rate and 14 bullets instead of just 7, (7 in each gun).
I still think it's a good idea, and i doubt it would be a nerf.
Why don't you think it's a good idea, and don't just whinge about how "but ppls will cry because DEagles will be useless!!!"
Because that's not exactly true.
Why would it be a bad idea?
But it'll be like an advanced socom =(

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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #18 on: March 27, 2008, 05:18:42 am »
But it would be unique, it would just have a faster firing rate and 14 bullets instead of just 7, (7 in each gun).
I still think it's a good idea, and i doubt it would be a nerf.
Why don't you think it's a good idea, and don't just whinge about how "but ppls will cry because DEagles will be useless!!!"
Because that's not exactly true.
Why would it be a bad idea?
But it'll be like an advanced socom =(
how?
Socom doesn't kill in 3 shots.
and i think it would be kind of cool to come in guns blazing firing round after round from your DEagles into your opponents head without having to wait for the fir interval as much.
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Re: Desert Eagles: 2 guns - 1 shot
« Reply #19 on: March 27, 2008, 10:24:16 am »
Socom doesn't kill in 3 shots.
and i think it would be kind of cool to come in guns blazing firing round after round from your DEagles into your opponents head without having to wait for the fir interval as much.
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If you lower the dmg by half, HOW it's still possible to kill in 3 shots?
Duh, just a socom with 14 ammo (and as a primary).