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Offline STM1993

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Weapon Tips for DEs?
« on: April 02, 2008, 08:40:00 am »
Yep, I'm recently using the Desert Eagles ALOT now. I found them to be basically the perfect weapon for me, just that I need to work on my aim heavily, since strangely, I can miss terribly even at close distances but I can hit sometimes at long distances. So I'm basically training with them, but still using my USSOCOM as my trusty backup weapon, which have actually first brought me to using the DEs.

[ Note: I'm a public server player, usually playing INF (Game Arena 2) or DM (something with lower ping to Singapore (between 1-250), sometimes Game Arena 1) ]

I found that it seems to be a good situation to fight an opponent with DEs when you are in the air and above the opponent. It seems like sometimes, proning and jetting can work against opponents pretty well too.

I find that I'm having problems with my aiming (even at close ranges) and shooting at opponents who are either higher than me or are at the top of a ceiling. Most weapon that kill me tend to be the Spas, Minimi, AK and Knife, sometimes Ruger or Aug if in the hands of a stronger player. I noticed another weak spot is that I tend to keep shooting my DEs as though they were a socom, which isn't a good sign.

Any tips when I'm using DEs and how to counter these problems?

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2008, 09:07:17 am »
It's mid-close range weapon... don't try keeping the distance against auto (Ak, Minimi...).

Against enemies which are above you, use nades (or LAW ;E )
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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2008, 09:16:21 am »
Mmm, cuz I find I tend to run for some important reasons and I want to kill while moving away from the enemy so ya.

Nades eh? Ya I do that though not very well. Another problem: What if the nade can't reach because either too far or ceiling is just above? Also, its pretty much impossible to aim at the opponent who is at the top of the ceiling and you also at the same level. So I am forced to go lower if I have to hit him right?

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2008, 09:18:56 am »
As a dedicated Deagles user, I find it easier above any M79 user, that way you can plant 2 in his head before he pops off a nade. Stick high and get away from Steyr users. Also, take your time with shooting, don't spray. I tend to spray to much, and thats my problem. Stick to any backup weapon that you can use from a fair distance, like Socom (as I noticed that you used it, good choice ;)) or a LAW. Knife CAN help, but I find it useless most of the time.The main thing is... take your time with shots, and you'll usually survive (more often than if you spray helplessly... you WILL miss 90% of the time, and die easily).
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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2008, 09:53:04 am »
Thanks Bone ^^

Oh, I chose socom cuz I'm really used to it and it is very similar to my DEs at the same time, as well as an excellent backup weapon. I sometimes, instead of using DEs to kill a baddly injured person and waste lots of ammo and time (cuz of my bad aiming), I switch to my socom and shoot instead. M79 is really easy to defeat (unless in very tight places), its just like what you said, since DEs have better range than M79 actually.

I'm typically a ranged player in any game I play, but not a super long-range player who shoots incredible distances since my aiming isn't that good (ironically, I like to use snipers). I have a preference to fight in combat when I can maneuver alot and have suitable amount of space for me. I wanted something fast and powerful and without much inaccuracy (no bink, no movement acc). So DEs fit me well.

More comments and tips please?

Btw, is it okay if I use the MP5 or Socom to replace DEs occasionally while practising the aiming because they have very similar bullet speed?

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2008, 10:48:05 am »
Tip #1337 : Practice FTW.

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2008, 10:59:06 am »
Try to move a lot, most guns have crippling move acc, but the eagles don't. I would recommend cranking up your mouse sense (mine is 170).  Learn the arc, master it if you do that you'll be able to pull off amazing kills while keeping yourself in a safe spot.  When you're starting out try not to fire super fast, aim more so you don't miss them all.  For the socom as secondary I gotta tell ya, I don't really see the point, its just firing another weaker eagle.  The deagles have fast enough reload to not need  a socom. I recommend knife or law. 

Might be sloppy, never was good at explaining things!

Edit: Try not to end up in a close fight with people, try to make strange angles!   

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2008, 11:07:13 am »
Rai-Dei - socom is good for begginers...

Well, just don't use saw. That's all about secondaries.

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2008, 11:24:05 am »
Try to move a lot, most guns have crippling move acc, but the eagles don't. I would recommend cranking up your mouse sense (mine is 170).  Learn the arc, master it if you do that you'll be able to pull off amazing kills while keeping yourself in a safe spot.  When you're starting out try not to fire super fast, aim more so you don't miss them all.  For the socom as secondary I gotta tell ya, I don't really see the point, its just firing another weaker eagle.  The deagles have fast enough reload to not need  a socom. I recommend knife or law. 

Might be sloppy, never was good at explaining things!

Edit: Try not to end up in a close fight with people, try to make strange angles!   

Ssocom helps alot if ur done with ur magazine on the deagles and ur opponent got low health and a automat gun for instance..

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #9 on: April 02, 2008, 11:43:06 am »
Socom is just too slow. It might be good for complimenting slower reload guns, like M79, Barret or minimi. With deserts, you need to move fast all the time, and thus you need a fast killing secondary. The knife is the optimal choice, though I've seen some cool people harassing with LAW aswell.

Grenades are your friend. By default, deserts kill in 3-4 shots ( if you're fast enough, it can kill in 2, because your movement speed raises the damage value of your bullets ). If you hit someone with a grenade and a bullet at the same time, it's an instant kill. Hit an injured player with a grenade, instant kill again. Grenades fly farther and faster if you do a quick jump in the desired direction: if someone's above you, he's as good as dead, because feet hits with these green perls are deadly. If he's below you, you shred him with headshots. In one line, it takes the mentioned hit+nade combination.

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #10 on: April 02, 2008, 04:56:14 pm »
Just be patient with each shot. Don't try to fire them very quickly because then you'll miss all of them.

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2008, 04:33:15 am »
I just started using deagles too so thanks a lot =D
I love it when your team mate chucks you a nade, you boost, jet, then in mid air you see an enemy who's hurt... but not that much...
you plant 2 bullets in their head with the amazing speed then they magically die =P

EDIT: Currently I use knife as secondary... got any other opinions for that?
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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2008, 04:47:11 am »
start shootin slow, and as you get better click faster ;o
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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2008, 05:15:14 am »
Just be patient with each shot. Don't try to fire them very quickly because then you'll miss all of them.
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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2008, 06:10:02 am »
Alright, thanks guys! (especially Ziem, Bone, Rai and Demonic) ^^ I'll work on it.

Okay then, I'll learn to fire slower and try to use nades more often while shooting (no wonder why I get killed so easily by nades...). As for secondaries... well... I'll stick to the socom for the moment since I'm pretty much new to DEs. Maybe I'll get a knife or LAW in future, depending on the situation (I like 1-hit-kill weapons if they can kill at long range, but I want to be able to shoot while moving or in the air so ya, thats why I'm sticking to socom. Knife is not very suitable for me, yet). Hopefully I can pick up Barrets to aid me with my DEs if I can't find my knife or have no time to reload my law >=D

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2008, 06:17:58 am »
I can "teach" you some techniques and stuff if you want, since you're Australian (i think). contact me on aldo_maple@hotmail.com   IF you can be bothered.

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #16 on: April 03, 2008, 09:09:17 am »
No I'm not an aussie, I'm Singaporean. My ping to GA2 is around 200, and I don't have much time with studies and life hanging on the balance.

But thanks for the offer =)

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #17 on: April 03, 2008, 12:19:43 pm »
THIS WAS TAKEN FROM FRACS FORUMS, ORGIONALLY POSTED BY AJI

Thought bringing this alive as well, bored the shit out of anyways.
I barely see these guns nowdays, after massive whoring at 1.2.1, no one uses them.

All about Deagles

Pros:
+No Bink
+Damage
+Mid range
+Fast Reload
+Fairly big clipsize
+All around weapon. (Main + Alt)
+Can stand up to any weapon.
+Not considered as lame, so you won't get flamed (i get flamed for my law)
Cons:
-Mid range
-Ruger
-Needs training (slobs!)
-Legshot damage

See, it fairly has any cons.
If you can think more, post.

1. Most reliable secondary weapons with DE's are Socom (rushers) and Law (backuppers*).

2. Range is not a big problem, with decent aiming, you can beat some long range weapons. (If you carry law, just land and shoot)

3. God sakes AIM. Dont go aroud bangbangbang :E. Even if it can shoot twice in a second (not sure and cant be arsed to check), you dont have to shoot that fast. It's semiautomatic weapon. Almost everyone who uses deagles nowadays go around shooting as fast as you can, this requires more skill, and can be done, but shoot slower for starters.

4. On point blank, jump over the enemy, only spas can handle that, and i cant see any spassers nowadays either.

5. Even better killing a wounded enemy, than auto.

6. Better killing flaggers at mid-range than auto.

7. No bink, use it as you advantage.

8. Good for back up players.

*Backupper, mostly goes mid, while rusher goes up (in laos).
Kills enemies so "rusher" can take the flag.







Now when I deagle, I will use the socom as a back up, considering so many of my shots dont register, and I can have an extra 12 shots to pwn someone with.

But as Rai-Dei said, knife works wounder if you are rushing super fast, and you need to drop that 2nd or 3rd guy fast. The law is more of a defensive weapon than an aggressive weapon.
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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #18 on: April 04, 2008, 05:12:38 am »
Ohh thanks Gortaak for posting that ^^

Guess I'll stay with socom then, since I really find that knife and law aren't suitable for me at all. Thanks ^^

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Re: Weapon Tips for DEs?
« Reply #19 on: April 04, 2008, 12:52:32 pm »
thanks this really helped me, i'm practising with the Deagles too and i have to learn not to shoot that fast ;D
have to focus more on my aim not the speed.