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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #40 on: April 09, 2008, 09:34:42 pm »
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If an atom is the basic building block of all elements, then what makes up an atom?

If you mean the true meaning of atom, one that cannot be divided, then nothing makes it up but itself.

If you meant he scientific term, protons, neutrons, and electrons (positrons)

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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #41 on: April 09, 2008, 09:40:46 pm »
If you mean the true meaning of atom, one that cannot be divided, then nothing makes it up but itself.
What I meant, an atom couldn't be the smallest thing in the world, if the atom makes up elements, what would make up an atom?

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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #42 on: April 09, 2008, 09:43:02 pm »
If you mean the true meaning of atom, one that cannot be divided, then nothing makes it up but itself.
What I meant, an atom couldn't be the smallest thing in the world, if the atom makes up elements, what would make up an atom?

Itself

Assuming you aren't using the scientific definition

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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #43 on: April 09, 2008, 09:46:09 pm »
If you mean the true meaning of atom, one that cannot be divided, then nothing makes it up but itself.
What I meant, an atom couldn't be the smallest thing in the world, if the atom makes up elements, what would make up an atom?

Itself

Assuming you aren't using the scientific definition
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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #44 on: April 09, 2008, 09:50:53 pm »
There is a difference between the word atom from a scientific and purely etymological term.

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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #45 on: April 09, 2008, 10:23:54 pm »
As an obscurantist how do you describe obscurantism without being obscure? Because if you wish for people to understand obscurantism then you need to give a clear answer about said question.

Are horoscopes written by obscurantist robots and in what way are you not one of them?
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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #46 on: April 09, 2008, 10:27:22 pm »
A man was to be sentenced, and the judge told him, "You may make a statement. If it is true, I'll sentence you to four years in prison. If it is false, I'll sentence you to six years in prison." After the man made his statement, the judge decided to let him go free. What did the man say?

"Let me go free or I'll tell everyone your horrible secret."
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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #47 on: April 10, 2008, 11:55:20 am »
As an obscurantist how do you describe obscurantism without being obscure? Because if you wish for people to understand obscurantism then you need to give a clear answer about said question.

Are horoscopes written by obscurantist robots and in what way are you not one of them?

I can describe it without being obscure, however, it would not accurately describe the heart of the matter.

As I said in the first post, I will do my best.

I would describe Obscurantism as a form of Mystical Philosophy which, aside from the essentials of mysticism, diverges from the rest in terms of the defining feature of the universe as One, that which is not (not always) a God.

No, they aren't. I am not one of them because what I write is not true.
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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #48 on: April 10, 2008, 12:23:26 pm »
Hey its another people not realizing what an obscurantist is and keep asking questions, which is the point. So I have a question, why should we ask you questions, what do we gain?
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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #49 on: April 10, 2008, 12:25:38 pm »
Hey its another people not realizing what an obscurantist is and keep asking questions, which is the point. So I have a question, why should we ask you questions, what do we gain?

This was already stated, and you do not understand what an obscurantist is it seems.

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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #50 on: April 10, 2008, 01:21:48 pm »
Oh really? Well then, who am I?
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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #51 on: April 10, 2008, 01:46:55 pm »
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Oh really? Well then, who am I?

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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #52 on: April 10, 2008, 02:16:00 pm »
Obscurantism is a completely pointless title dude. It's akin to a japslag acting like "heh......i'm mysterious......just like sasuke/(insert MYSTERY DUDE HERE)....."
It's not even a valid philosophy at all to be honest! I mean seriously, "knowledge is only for those who can handle it" in an extreme sense, it's just basically being an elitist. There is no mythical philosophy behind it!

Take for example, you have a king(in this case like what is described in plato's republic, i.e the "noble lie"). If you lie to society, society (modern society) will not accept you when you've been found out. It's a childish example, but the point is here. Vagueness in the higher ranks CANNOT WORK, and in religion it's a really crappy motion in my opinion!

EDIT: what I mean by invalid is that it cannot really be implanted in today's world, like the death penalty.

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As an obscurantist how do you describe obscurantism without being obscure? Because if you wish for people to understand obscurantism then you need to give a clear answer about said question.

Are horoscopes written by obscurantist robots and in what way are you not one of them?
The way this guy means it is in a philosophical sense, not the sense of I'M VAGUE HEHEHEHEHE, but it's still not a really good thing to label yourself as.
They basically believe,depending on circumstances, it's akin to masonry, you can be agnostic/atheist/christian etc but still be an obscurantist, the belief just varies depending on the 'God' or the figure of worship, that the universe is one/god is within us or something horribly pretentious, and cannot explain it since "knowledge is not for.........dummies".
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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #53 on: April 10, 2008, 02:55:30 pm »
Why is there something rather than nothing?

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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #54 on: April 10, 2008, 03:09:31 pm »
What do you think is going through the mind of people when they do such retarded things.

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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #55 on: April 10, 2008, 03:09:41 pm »
Why do people post useless topics?

Such as you
To amuse dumb people

Like you.

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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #56 on: April 10, 2008, 03:37:22 pm »
Here's a crazy thought:
People who cannot make decent arguments/do not know what an obscurantist is other that UNNECCESARILY VAGUE PERSON do not post!
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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #57 on: April 10, 2008, 03:44:34 pm »
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Obscurantism is a completely pointless title dude. It's akin to a japslag acting like "heh......i'm mysterious......just like sasuke/(insert MYSTERY DUDE HERE)....."

The title you search for you have not found yet, I am not mysterious.

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It's not even a valid philosophy at all to be honest! I mean seriously, "knowledge is only for those who can handle it" in an extreme sense, it's just basically being an elitist. There is no mythical philosophy behind it!

Knowledge is for everyone, I've never stated it is not for those who cannot handle it. You dig too deep into something that isn't there. I never said mythical, I said mystical.

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Vagueness in the higher ranks CANNOT WORK, and in religion it's a really crappy motion in my opinion!

I am not being vague, merely trying to obtain an accuracy which is allowed (a product of my depletion).

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The way this guy means it is in a philosophical sense, not the sense of I'M VAGUE HEHEHEHEHE, but it's still not a really good thing to label yourself as.
They basically believe,depending on circumstances, it's akin to masonry, you can be agnostic/atheist/christian etc but still be an obscurantist, the belief just varies depending on the 'God' or the figure of worship, that the universe is one/god is within us or something horribly pretentious, and cannot explain it since "knowledge is not for.........dummies".

Once again wrong, this is not an accurate description. I've said before, I can be as precise as things allow me, and you may extrapolate on nothing.


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Why is there something rather than nothing?

There exists both

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What do you think is going through the mind of people when they do such retarded things.

I do not know.

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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #58 on: April 10, 2008, 04:11:50 pm »
Then how can you call yourself an obscurantist, what I see here is just mysticism.
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Re: Ask an Obscurantist (2)
« Reply #59 on: April 10, 2008, 04:25:53 pm »
Its the philosophy sprouted from the mysticism which pertains to a certain universal fundamental. Its not mysticism (which is no philosophy), but a mystic philosophy.