Explovive Barrels

[Banksey]

I know there is a do not suggest exploive poly's and what not but how bout a explosive barrel.

This would add new gameplay and tactics to the game in my opinion. No picking them up or moving them or anything like that, just static explosive barrels. Nice simple suggestion that I haven't seen here before.

Dicuss.

[BondJamesBond]

What would decide when they explode?

[PaFel]

What would decide when they explode?

Damage. It could be just scripted scenery or something like that.

[Banksey]

Yeah, it could be like a player if thats possible, just give it a certain amount of health.

[poopdogg]

Yeah, it could be like a player if that's possible, just give it a certain amount of health.

then there should be a Barrel specificity like  the color

[O.R.I.O.N.]

lurn2sticky. No movable or interactive scenies or polys. Evar.

[Lord Frunkamunch]

Not that it's a bad idea, it would just require an update to the map format, which MM can't be arsed to do.

[Mastadi]

Actually, I think this migth be possible by scripting.

[Psycho]

I really dont see a reason. I never thought "ooh we need an annoying exploding obstacle right here" in my adventures on the soldat maps

[Thinkto urself]

This is pretty easy, modify the grenade script to be able to detect damage, and explode on contact from an intrusion, and yay, an explosive barrel. This would be hardcored into the game though, it can't be scripted.

[freeloader]

Explosive Barrels?
Aren't grenades enough?

[O.R.I.O.N.]

Think about Half Life. The red barrels are hardly grenades. Still, no interactive scenies or polys. It's in the freakin' sticky.

[M.rSnow]

F11 would require to change  the source code of the maps. Dunno any other way. except scripting but i wouldn't be the same. Players expoding when the die is the only way i know (in scripting).

[LtKillroy]

I always heard that not only will this not be done, it cannot be done. So sorry, this is pretty much not going to happen as far as I know.

[Isengoth]

Hmm...

What if......

Map Colliders (barrels) took damage, and once a threshold was met, it fired a scripted weapon (m79, nade, cluster) in a trajectory which is, again, scripted?

[Snow]

Well, yes. This can be done, but I agree with the majority, it would be annoying and the map code would have to be changed. Plus, not much a sploding barrel can do except do damage or kill the nearest victim. In both Half Life and Doom, they were useful. In Doom however, enemies move veeerrry slow, so they are more useful. In Half Life, it was luck if a bunch of noob AI was close enough to barrels to hurt them. In Soldat, the action is too fast and even noobs wouldn't be stupid enough to camp next to a flammable/explosive element. If a player can cross a map within 10 seconds (give or take - depending on map size), then it's pretty much pure luck to nail someone with any explosive item other than something you can throw or shoot like nades and projectiles. So there you have it. It's definitely not a bad suggestion, but F11 in Soldat.

--Snow.

[Arbiter]

Simple, make colliders readable by scripts, and when the script detects a projectile impacting it, a shell or bullet of your choice spawns and blows up your bum.

But as pointed out by Snow, Soldat's too fast for things like these.

[Pragma]

Stuff like that would just get swept away in the beginning of a match anyway, unless they're some kind of freakish regenerating explosive barrel.  It's a cool idea, but what's the use?