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Offline felipegoes

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The AUG in Normal...
« on: April 14, 2008, 08:42:40 am »
The AUG in Normal is overpowered, the fire interval is too low, with an AUG you can kill faster than with any weapon, i think that if the Fire Interval of the Aug was Higer it would look Fair.

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #1 on: April 14, 2008, 08:59:38 am »
You're right. We need to raise our standards to Higer levels.

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #2 on: April 14, 2008, 09:20:35 am »
It's going to be balanced in 1.5... so just be patient (current changes are -5 ammo, -1 dmg, +7 bink)
« Last Edit: April 14, 2008, 12:01:19 pm by Ziem »

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #3 on: April 14, 2008, 09:27:36 am »
// Codename: Balanskav
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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #4 on: April 14, 2008, 09:31:34 am »
They are Reducing the Ammo?
i think that the fire rate should be increased, you can get mutikill X2 very easy with the aug

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #5 on: April 14, 2008, 10:01:37 am »
They are Reducing the Ammo?
i think that the fire rate should be increased, you can get mutikill X2 very easy with the aug

Fire rate increase? Are you mad? That'd make the Aug a high bullet speed version of MP5 with 5 less ammo! That's even more overpowered!

-5 ammo is already not a bad way to nerf the overpowered aug, though a little less self-bink is made to make up slightly for this. Damage reduced by about 1 would be good too.

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #6 on: April 14, 2008, 11:29:03 am »
Increasing fire rate actually means lowering it. You see, the smaller the FireInterval value is, the faster the weapon shoots.

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #7 on: April 14, 2008, 12:03:15 pm »
Fire Interval =/= Fire Rate.

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #8 on: April 14, 2008, 12:07:25 pm »
They are Reducing the Ammo?
i think that the fire rate should be increased, you can get mutikill X2 very easy with the aug
Yeah. And serial with knife. Yes. You're right. -_-'

Reducing ammo = reducing spray = lowering the power of this auto... -> balancing.

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #9 on: April 14, 2008, 01:06:10 pm »
I think the AUG sucks, I can never use it right. But it is very overused so yeah, I guess a nerf is good, especially since it is happening. So... yeah case closed.
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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #10 on: April 14, 2008, 02:16:20 pm »
I'd like to see all these Multikill x2's you're getting with AUG.
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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #11 on: April 14, 2008, 02:18:00 pm »
I've never been that much of a fan of the AUG; it binks too much for my tastes, though keep in mind I'm a realistic junkie.
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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #12 on: April 14, 2008, 05:54:30 pm »
They are Reducing the Ammo?
i think that the fire rate should be increased, you can get mutikill X2 very easy with the aug

Fire rate increase? Are you mad? That'd make the Aug a high bullet speed version of MP5 with 5 less ammo! That's even more overpowered!

-5 ammo is already not a bad way to nerf the overpowered aug, though a little less self-bink is made to make up slightly for this. Damage reduced by about 1 would be good too.
I mean increasing the Fire interval.

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #13 on: April 15, 2008, 04:47:06 am »
Oh okay, I get what you mean now. Looks like you mean reducing the fire rate by increasing the fireinterval.

Anyway, I think if you make the Aug shoot slower, it'd become too weak too. Then it might as well be changed back to the Colt M4A1 in the oldest version (0.9.4c) of Soldat by using the current Steyr Aug stats with lower self-bink and 8 fireinterval instead of 7.

-5 ammo would be good enough at the moment. We'll see whether its still overpowered or whatever, but I believe the Aug will still be pretty powerful, so I think the damage should be reduced slightly.

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #14 on: April 15, 2008, 12:55:26 pm »
I think the AUG sucks, I can never use it right. But it is very overused so yeah, I guess a nerf is good, especially since it is happening. So... yeah case closed.

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #15 on: April 19, 2008, 04:44:45 pm »
There are some situations where the AUG is crap. It is normally a pwning weapon tho, but when you're with a low of minimi and mp5 users, you are toast.

Basically, if you want to outgun an AUGer, use a more powerful auto like MP5.

Hardly any weapon is unbalanced. I use almost every weapon out there (excepts with minigun, knife, and chainsaw). I notice each weapon has its ups and downs in different situations. And as I mentioned, there are some situations where the AUG is like a pea-shooter. Especially in high intensity matches and against M79ers.

Oh, and lowing capacity would ruin it. It is bad enough against AK users sometimes. If you can survive a AUGer's assault, the AK will keep firing and the auger is toast.

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #16 on: April 20, 2008, 02:35:40 am »
Basically, if you want to outgun an AUGer, use a more powerful auto like MP5.

This statement is false when the Augger is above the MP5er, which happens over 90% of the time.

And yes, the Aug is overpowered and it needs nerfing. If fireinterval is changed to 8, it is going to become the Colt M4A1 that Soldat had before it was replaced by the Aug. If not, the other stats have to be changed, and it can be quite difficult.
« Last Edit: April 20, 2008, 02:37:36 am by STM1993 »

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #17 on: April 20, 2008, 12:09:44 pm »
// Codename: Balanskav
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// Steyr        ammo -5, bink +7
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bink +7 ?? the bink should be decreased, not increased...
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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #18 on: April 20, 2008, 12:22:00 pm »
// Codename: Balanskav
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// Steyr        ammo -5, bink +7
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bink +7 ?? the bink should be decreased, not increased...
Uh, it is.
+7 bink means that it has better accuracy.

I think that -1 dmg would be ok... even instead of - 5 ammo nerf.

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Re: The AUG in Normal...
« Reply #19 on: April 20, 2008, 12:41:21 pm »
-5 ammo will make the aug suck, it'll fire too fast but not enough ammo

Date Posted: April 20, 2008, 14:38:28
Like the ak, with 40 bullets, but firing too slow