The AUG in Normal...

[excruciator]

// Codename: Balanskav
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// Steyr        ammo -5, bink +7
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bink +7 ?? the bink should be decreased, not increased...

Uh, it is.
+7 bink means that it has better accuracy.

not much of a nerf isnt it.

[Ziem]

-5 ammo will make the aug suck, it'll fire too fast but not enough ammo

No... just try it. Steyr can kill with around 20 bullets at most, - 5 ammo just prevents spraying (somewhat).

[felipegoes]

i think it's impossible to balance the AUG, it is too perfect

[excruciator]

i think it's impossible to balance the AUG, it is too perfect

the 1.3.1 aug was not as overused as the one we got right now. and it was a much better balance, still great for close-mid range, but you need real skills to long range with it.

[8th_account]

Ya the 1.3.1 AUG wasn't as popular because mp5, ak and minimi were grossly overpowered as well.

[excruciator]

Ya the 1.3.1 AUG wasn't as popular because mp5, ak and minimi were grossly overpowered as well.

minimi? you serious? huh?  is it because everyone was so blinded by the power of mp5 and ak so nobody took notice of the equally overpowered weapon?

[tehsnipah]

The AUG in Normal is overpowered, the fire interval is too low, with an AUG you can kill faster than with any weapon, i think that if the Fire Interval of the Aug was Higer it would look Fair.

hell no, i always pwned the augers with ak74, it's definitely not overpowered. one of the match, i had an auger start shooting at me first, but then i just killed him with 5~6 shot on his head and he dropped dead

-off- i'm just taking a quick break

[Ziem]

hell no, i always pwned the augers with ak74, it's definitely not overpowered. one of the match, i had an auger start shooting at me first, but then i just killed him with 5~6 shot on his head and he dropped dead

-off- i'm just taking a quick break

Do you play gathers?

[excruciator]

hell no, i always pwned the augers with ak74, it's definitely not overpowered. one of the match, i had an auger start shooting at me first, but then i just killed him with 5~6 shot on his head and he dropped dead

-off- i'm just taking a quick break

Do you play gathers?

actually, the ak's potencial is just a little below that of steyr, if all bullet hits, an aker and the steyr should tecnically die at the sametime.

The reason why aker gets their ass kicked by augers because aug tolerates miss better by having a higher cycle rate. but on the other hand, steyr's accuracy is much worse than that of ak.


the only reason aks are losing to auggers is because the akers suck.

[O.R.I.O.N.]

I resent that.

The Steyr is fast, yes, but the AK is more stable and doesn't bink out as much. Personally, I prefer the AK for that aspect.

[STM1993]

I'm finding a hard time defeating Auggers with my MP5 ; they can take my down quite easily even if I'm in the air and they are on the ground or below me. =(

Anyway, what I think of Autos is this:

MP5 - Short-range with high rate of fire and decent-high damage. Most accurate (movement acc 1, lowest self-bink).
AK - High damage, high ammo, decently accurate and has a decent bullet speed.
Minimi - Decent damage, incredible ammo, higher bullet speed, but can get really inaccurate due to movement acc and self-bink.

Aug - Fast and furious with a decent ammo clip and high bullet speed, with low damage per shot. It pwns all because it has such a fast-firing rate and capability to kill at any range. I call it the most versatile Auto of Soldat.

[tehsnipah]

hell no, i always pwned the augers with ak74, it's definitely not overpowered. one of the match, i had an auger start shooting at me first, but then i just killed him with 5~6 shot on his head and he dropped dead

-off- i'm just taking a quick break

Do you play gathers?

the only reason aks are losing to auggers is because the akers suck.

take that back man, there are many good akers, it's probably because you can't find them

[excruciator]

hell no, i always pwned the augers with ak74, it's definitely not overpowered. one of the match, i had an auger start shooting at me first, but then i just killed him with 5~6 shot on his head and he dropped dead

-off- i'm just taking a quick break

Do you play gathers?

the only reason aks are losing to auggers is because the akers suck.

take that back man, there are many good akers, it's probably because you can't find them

thats just an overgeneralisation of the ak vs steyr case. honestly, I cannot think any other reason why ak loses so much.

[tehsnipah]

hell no, i always pwned the augers with ak74, it's definitely not overpowered. one of the match, i had an auger start shooting at me first, but then i just killed him with 5~6 shot on his head and he dropped dead

-off- i'm just taking a quick break

Do you play gathers?

the only reason aks are losing to auggers is because the akers suck.

take that back man, there are many good akers, it's probably because you can't find them

thats just an overgeneralisation of the ak vs steyr case. honestly, I cannot think any other reason why ak loses so much.

i personally think that most of the akers are intiminated by the aug's fire rate, it's so fast, that they think they're gonna die fast. that's what i thought, but now, i don't really care

[excruciator]

mind breaked, another reason why I choose steyr

[NinjaGimp369]

The steyr is a very powerful weapon this version, it's very fair to reduce the ammo in the next version. I am a steyr user myself, and I must say it is very flexible and way too overpowered in the current version.

[excruciator]

The steyr is a very powerful weapon this version, it's very fair to reduce the ammo in the next version. I am a steyr user myself, and I must say it is very flexible and way too overpowered in the current version.

I think its just because of the bink reduction. the old 1.3.1 balance the aug was much more inaccurate. the +1 in moviment acc isnt doing much because it can be simply stopped by releasing the moviment keys for a fraction of the second

[8th_account]

Bink has almost nothing to do with accuracy unless we're talking about the minigun. The minimi from 1.3.1 had a selfbink of 49, yet it was still bloody accurate because everyone who had played the game over a month knew to click the trigger to bypass the aim penalty.

And the +1 moveacc does too a lot. Yes it can be stopped by releasing the movement keys for a fraction of a second, but that only gives time to fire a single bullet or two. If you want to fire while moving fast, then most of the bullets will be fired as you are pressing a movement key.

[excruciator]

Bink has almost nothing to do with accuracy unless we're talking about the minigun. The minimi from 1.3.1 had a selfbink of 49, yet it was still bloody accurate because everyone who had played the game over a month knew to click the trigger to bypass the aim penalty.

And the +1 moveacc does too a lot. Yes it can be stopped by releasing the movement keys for a fraction of a second, but that only gives time to fire a single bullet or two. If you want to fire while moving fast, then most of the bullets will be fired as you are pressing a movement key.

if I remembered right, 1.3.1 aug's bink made aug's very first bullet useless unless you are really close to the target.(and everytime you burst again) that made aug significantly weaker due to the fact that it drops the dps by a lot.
thats what I meant when I said aug was less accurate back then

and no, somehow by releasing the movement key for a fraction of a second right before spraying making all bullets significantly more accurate. Again thats just from personal experiences.

[8th_account]

Well you're wrong then. The first-bullet-inaccuracy-thing-on-steyr is a sort of bug, not a result of the selfbink. That's why its still there even today.