Grenades - Need to be nerfed

[Bjarne Betjent]

nades need to be buffed, mine won't work atleast 80% of the time.

Beats you on that one..Im up in 90%

[Ziem]

nades need to be buffed, mine won't work atleast 80% of the time.

This is called *lag*.

Nades should stay as they are now.

[client]

then i lagg much
i got really mad at a gather here a day, i got the enemy flag and spammed nades at a dude, he died after a few nades in the head, then when i look back the efc throwed a "weak" nade at me, i died like hell, it happened twice in the same gather.

i have to use thousands of nades and they need one.

[Ziem]

Nades are 1-hit when they hit legs.

Edit: And for head/torso they are ~2 hit... The head/torso/legs ratio is reversed for nades.

[client]

mine is 2 - 3 hits most of the time in the head. somethimes they are one hit and they i say "woohoo"

[Gnoblar]

I just throw them and hope for the best. I think that grenades are great, but it depends on the server. If you can get 8 grenades on a CTF server, it's gonna be hectic...

[Cold Hand]

Getting  surrounded by a rain of grenades ....thats balance ?

Lag between every throw is a nice idea. Its a really good option to throw a grenade, they work as weapon and as a wall, they make enemies to jump over them or retreat.

Using them whenever you want without lag between each throw is like giving a constant defense to the players until they run out of grenades.
I use them this way ( to kill enemies too, of course ) and this work wonders as I make my enemies walk the way I want them to.

[Ziem]

Rotfl
Do you know what's lag?

[Cold Hand]

Im not using it to refer to "bad connection".

Would you like "delay" better ?

[Extacide]

Ignore this post entirely. o.O;

[8th_account]

Nades do not kill when thrown at the head. Lag and visual bugs may make it appear that way, but that's not a problem with the nades' balance itself.

[LtKillroy]

Next were gonna have Jet boots: Need to be nerfed. Everyone uses them too much. Its not a bad thing to have an item that everyone can use.

[chutem]

Next were gonna have Jet boots: Need to be nerfed. Everyone uses them too much. Its not a bad thing to have an item that everyone can use.

Haha, good one

I think nades are the best shizz ever, I'm so good (or lucky) with them, I pull off some truly amazing nade throws, it makes the game so much more exciting. If you took away (or nerfed) the nades, you would take away a part of soldat.

[Peu]

You guys need to stop arguing about OPness when the thread is about game quality. It's always about game quality when it's items that everyone has. I only agree that a very short delay of <0.5s should exist on instant detonation. If it hits before the timer, it should bounce

[excruciator]

You guys need to stop arguing about OPness when the thread is about game quality. It's always about game quality when it's items that everyone has. I only agree that a very short delay of <0.5s should exist on instant detonation. If it hits before the timer, it should bounce

Or add a bounce time; if the nade hits the target before bounce time it bounces, if it hits after bounce time it explodes as usual.

[Peu]

yeah, that sounds easier, but I suppose it depends how it's coded

[excruciator]

yeah, that sounds easier, but I suppose it depends how it's coded

and it would retain most of its usefulness too.

[Lumen-Shroom]

yeah, that sounds easier, but I suppose it depends how it's coded

and it would retain most of its usefulness too.

Agreed. Sounds like a good idea.

I'm kind of tired of people using nades as primary weapons.

[Swiftfreddy]

You guys need to stop arguing about OPness when the thread is about game quality. It's always about game quality when it's items that everyone has. I only agree that a very short delay of <0.5s should exist on instant detonation. If it hits before the timer, it should bounce

Or add a bounce time; if the nade hits the target before bounce time it bounces, if it hits after bounce time it explodes as usual.

I agree.
Things that seem simple to code are often a lot more complicated.
(I'm sure your referring to people being hit bounce time - im not paying attention otherwise)
The actual players have lag, the polys dont. This will effect the bouncing of the grenade and I feel
could cause several bugs but I like the idea and hope that sort of stuff can be overcome.

[CrayAB]

Nades are fine.  Anymore then 3 at a time in a server is annoying though.