Minimi overpowered

[excruciator]

Underused =/= underpowered. Take DEs for example.

:S
People pick the best weapons, they don't pick the worst(ok, some do)...
So in most cases, when players don't use a weapon as much as they use other weapons, there's something wrong (uh, I mean, when there is a difference of around 20000 kills (1000%...)sctfl stats ftw between Steyr kills and Minimi, there *must* be some difference in those weapons effectivity.)

list of factor that determine if a weapon will be picked...

...by a efficient player:

- DPS
- DPC
- clip size
- how easy is it too use
- how well it works with the secondary, or nade
- rate of fire
- accuracy
- range
- reload*
- cooldown*

(*not as important, but if the reload/cooldown is unreasonable to its power, then the weapon still wont be picked)


by others:(I picked mine based on this)
- looks
- feels
- uniqueness


the DE is a great weapon, it has the DPS, DPC, accuracy, cycle rate. But it is not a easy weapon to master, and not a gun that works well with the nade. Thats why its not as used.

[STM1993]

It doesn't work well with nades? Why? But isn't it true that a single nade and a single shot from DEs grants you an instant kill? =O

[ElGato]

The DEs just don't work well period, I find that something ridiculous like half my shots don't register with them. If, however, you can shoot and hit with every nade they are actually just as good as the other semis, possibly better.

[excruciator]

It doesn't work well with nades? Why? But isn't it true that a single nade and a single shot from DEs grants you an instant kill? =O

generally auto works better with nades than semis. with auto is much easier, faster and takes less practice.

The DEs just don't work well period, I find that something ridiculous like half my shots don't register with them. If, however, you can shoot and hit with every nade they are actually just as good as the other semis, possibly better.

I've never had such a prob.

[Extacide]

generally auto works better with nades than semis. with auto is much easier, faster and takes less practice.

I never knew that the gun you used made a difference on how well you can throw a grenade.

[kzya]

i guess u guys haven't played soldat yet. Yes you can rush into their base with minimi easily. since u barely get movement binked in mid-air. it's even more useful than aug if you know how to use it right.

[Platehead]

The large clip size and damage allows you to deal with multiple enemies in one clip, making it useful for base raiding
But only if you know how to use it, otherwise you'd find yourself reloading after the second defender.

^^ That'd be me.

[excruciator]

generally auto works better with nades than semis. with auto is much easier, faster and takes less practice.

I never knew that the gun you used made a difference on how well you can throw a grenade.

it does make a difference about how well and how fast you can make a combo with the nade.

[kzya]

it does make a difference about how well and how fast you can make a combo with the nade.

it doesn't really... 

[excruciator]

it does make a difference about how well and how fast you can make a combo with the nade.

it doesn't really... 

explain to me why you see so many more auto+nade combo than semi+nade combo.

[Ziem]

explain to me why you see so many more auto+nade combo than semi+nade combo.

Because autos are used a lot more than semis?

[The Owls]

Right now autos are used more then semi's simply because they're more reliable, and give a greater room for error.  Sure semi's kill fast, but to most people, that's not worth the small risk you take that one of your shots won't register, which for a weapon like a ruger is the difference between killing and dieing.  For autos, you're pumping out enough shots that one or two unregistered shots aren't that noticeable.

[excruciator]

explain to me why you see so many more auto+nade combo than semi+nade combo.

Because autos are used a lot more than semis?

yes but the ratio of people using combo is far more than those in semis.

ffs..People try it before trying to argue. I'm sure that it is much harder to do semi combo than auto combo.

[8th_account]

What are you saying? People with semis don't use their nades?

[kzya]

What are you saying? People with semis don't use their nades?

hes saying it's harder to nade with semis than with autos

[immyran]

Minimi is fine as it is, it definetly shouldnt be boosted in the next weapon balance.
Only difference now is ppl are realising the use of this weapon, thus why its being used more. But still not as often as other autos.

[Platehead]

What are you saying? People with semis don't use their nades?

hes saying it's harder to nade with semis than with autos

I'd think not, nading is the same difficulty if you're holding an MP5, barret or fists.
Is he saying people tend to nade combo more using an auto?
I reckon there's not much of a difference, nade just gets you the damage boost you want.
Is the topic about minimi? =D

[SDFilm]

Is the topic about minimi? =D

It was, but excruciator joined it; which means it's now about nades.

[STM1993]

I'd think not, nading is the same difficulty if you're holding an MP5, barret or fists.
Is he saying people tend to nade combo more using an auto?
I reckon there's not much of a difference, nade just gets you the damage boost you want.
Is the topic about minimi? =D

When it comes to purely nading, you carry any weapon, you still throw the same way, deal the same damage. The only difference comes is when players mix gunfire and a nade together. Apparently its much easier with an auto, harder with semi-autos, and no doubt for autos it is generally more effective.

Minimi... +4 bink is good, -1 movementacc is tentative, reload time or other stats should not be changed. I would now agree that it is a more specialized version of the AK. Yes, the Minimi is getting more popular. It is the least used auto as of now, but I wonder why when it is pretty good actually.

[-Major-]

while nade throwing with an semi, you might fire at the wrong momentum, causing the bullet miss the designated target. also, in my opinion it's not as useful to nade kill with a semi auto weapon, as they are already so powerful. that is an exception in close combat where you want to tap out a nade (does not go for Spas).

the auto on the other hand, doesn't deal as much damage. and therefor good in combination with nades.