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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #120 on: May 23, 2008, 11:08:18 am »
while nade throwing with an semi, you might fire at the wrong momentum, causing the bullet miss the designated target. also, in my opinion it's not as useful to nade kill with a semi auto weapon, as they are already so powerful. that is an exception in close combat where you want to tap out a nade (does not go for Spas).

the auto on the other hand, doesn't deal as much damage. and therefor good in combination with nades.

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #121 on: May 23, 2008, 09:18:04 pm »
while nade throwing with an semi, you might fire at the wrong momentum, causing the bullet miss the designated target. also, in my opinion it's not as useful to nade kill with a semi auto weapon, as they are already so powerful. that is an exception in close combat where you want to tap out a nade (does not go for Spas).

the auto on the other hand, doesn't deal as much damage. and therefor good in combination with nades.

Zomfg koodos for being the first one to understand what I meant by "auto makes better combo with nades"
Um.... isn't that a common sense if you played soldat for over a month at least?
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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #122 on: May 23, 2008, 10:07:52 pm »
while nade throwing with an semi, you might fire at the wrong momentum, causing the bullet miss the designated target. also, in my opinion it's not as useful to nade kill with a semi auto weapon, as they are already so powerful. that is an exception in close combat where you want to tap out a nade (does not go for Spas).

the auto on the other hand, doesn't deal as much damage. and therefor good in combination with nades.

Zomfg koodos for being the first one to understand what I meant by "auto makes better combo with nades"
Um.... isn't that a common sense if you played soldat for over a month at least?

yet 8th account and many other failed to see that.

Date Posted: May 23, 2008, 11:07:14 pm

Is the topic about minimi? =D

It was, but excruciator joined it; which means it's now about nades. ::)

Thats what I do.

Well I still believe that minimi is overpowered and should not be boosted. Sure maybe the weapon isn't popular at all ( ::) ), but is still holds extreme power. The baseline is that minimi should not get a boost.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2008, 10:09:45 pm by excruciator »
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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #123 on: May 24, 2008, 04:43:12 am »
Yes, because your original words..
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generally auto works better with nades than semis. with auto is much easier, faster and takes less practice.

..mentioned nothing about your gun being overkill on the enemy. The risk of having an "inefficient" overkill is just as high even without the nade.

Though I fail to see what this has to do with minimi.

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #124 on: May 24, 2008, 09:07:41 am »
Yes, because your original words..
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generally auto works better with nades than semis. with auto is much easier, faster and takes less practice.

..mentioned nothing about your gun being overkill on the enemy. The risk of having an "inefficient" overkill is just as high even without the nade.

Though I fail to see what this has to do with minimi.
then think harder!!! nah i'ts pretty much off topic.

anyway, I tried to use the minimi in some gather, and I found it pretty useless (I suck with autos, but not as much as this). I can't see how you find the minimi overpowerd D:

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #125 on: May 24, 2008, 09:32:36 am »
fluff, that is the number of kills with each weapon. It does not portray how many people uses that weapon.

Tis' is a bit late to respond to this specific post- But I Just noticed this.

Tell me- If this is an argument of the minimi being overpowered... And alot of people use it... Shouldnt it be FIRST, or at LEAST second on the list?! Generally, when Something's overpowered- and there are FEW people- It's at LEAST above the M79. :P Seriously.

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #126 on: May 25, 2008, 10:18:43 pm »
the minimi is just perfect, its my main weapon and i love it plz dont change a thing about it. >:(

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #127 on: May 26, 2008, 02:38:38 am »
^^
You wouldn't even like a buff? =P
Personally I wouldn't
But - yesterday I was using minimi
I came up with one conclusion.

It really is fine.

Minimi is a hybrid between, say, aug and AK? That's my opinion, yet again.
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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #128 on: May 26, 2008, 08:17:43 am »
I'd say it's a hybrid between the Minigun and AK; as it's supposed to lay down heavy support fire, while not being as stupid as the minigun but not as manoeuvrable as the AK- which is why I sometimes use the AK as a 'Minimi Carbine' for maps with alot of maneuvering around and for EFC persuing. Plus the AK can be good with its higher DPB and superior accuracy (though the Minimi has little self-bink, which helps sometimes).
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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #129 on: May 26, 2008, 03:24:50 pm »
No, minimi is not overpowered, balance is good. reload time is long and good aim player faster kill minimi user with steyr, spas or mp5.

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #130 on: May 26, 2008, 05:48:47 pm »
It might be SLIGHTLY overpowered, but dont nerf it too much. Moreacc does a rather good job IMO of evening it out. But still, as people said, in the right hands (like mine) it is a bulldozer. Still, I feel like it lacks the precision of the AK and AUG. I think it is rather balanced. Maybe could use just a SLIGHT nerfing (like -1 or -2 damage or something).

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #131 on: May 26, 2008, 07:11:45 pm »
The only buff/nerf I'd like to see is the self-bink value.

Minimi's good enough.

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #132 on: May 27, 2008, 06:24:31 am »
The only buff/nerf I'd like to see is the self-bink value.

Minimi's good enough.

This is what I would deem fitting as well. But since the general tone of the next version is to have stronger and more user-friendly weapons, all weapons will be buffed more than needed and those nerfed will be nerfed less than needed. I personally consider the current experimental Minimi to be pretty fine for that goal. Perhaps it's the other weapons that aren't as good.

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #133 on: May 27, 2008, 12:51:42 pm »
The only buff/nerf I'd like to see is the self-bink value.

Minimi's good enough.

This is what I would deem fitting as well. But since the general tone of the next version is to have stronger and more user-friendly weapons, all weapons will be buffed more than needed and those nerfed will be nerfed less than needed. I personally consider the current experimental Minimi to be pretty fine for that goal. Perhaps it's the other weapons that aren't as good.

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #134 on: May 27, 2008, 01:35:19 pm »
I'm not sure myself... Ak maybe? Mind giving me a hint so I can re-balance the weapons?

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #135 on: May 27, 2008, 02:40:48 pm »
if ak goes back to 1.3.1 vers it will definally be popular.
steyr would definally be unpopular if the self-bink was greater.
Minimi is fine the way it is. People needs time to experiment with it and master it.
Mp5 needs damage boost, and maybe a reduction in # of bullets. (will cause spike in popularity, the reduction of bullets would certainly making it harder to use(because the cycle rate is already so high), but none the less making a more effective shortranged weapon)
spas needs damage boost, less range would be welcome.
(both boost of spas and mp5 is to make the ruger less powerful, it could be seen as a indirect nerf for ruger)
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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #136 on: July 27, 2008, 01:11:59 am »
Minimi IS overpowered! I h8 when someone sprays with it in R/S!! If i have barret or ruger i can't hit bcuz of massive bink!! We shall lower the dmg and speed! :P

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #137 on: July 27, 2008, 08:37:07 am »
Minimi IS overpowered! I h8 when someone sprays with it in R/S!! If i have barret or ruger i can't hit bcuz of massive bink!! We shall lower the dmg and speed! :P

That's the weakness of those guns: Being binked. That's one purpose of ALL autos that they all share in common: binking those guns.

Anyway, for Realistic weapons, no one has yet to come up with a good balance yet. But if I'm not wrong, the balance would be roughly (I'm not a realistic player):

Nerf the Ruger and the autos (except Minigun). Buff the Barrett, LAW and M79 and Minigun.
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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #138 on: September 04, 2008, 08:03:41 pm »
The minimi is one of the, if not the, most effective weapon in the game.. In the right hands.

It has applications for defense, spray, long-range battling, and because of its high DPS, it can be pretty far towards the front lines.

I think it's pretty balanced. Compare this to the Ruger or Steyr and you'll see what I mean.

Also..
You want to BUFF the m79 in realistic?

Date Posted: August 13, 2008, 05:18:18 pm
if ak goes back to 1.3.1 vers it will definally be popular.
steyr would definally be unpopular if the self-bink was greater.
Minimi is fine the way it is. People needs time to experiment with it and master it.
Mp5 needs damage boost, and maybe a reduction in # of bullets. (will cause spike in popularity, the reduction of bullets would certainly making it harder to use(because the cycle rate is already so high), but none the less making a more effective shortranged weapon)
spas needs damage boost, less range would be welcome.
(both boost of spas and mp5 is to make the ruger less powerful, it could be seen as a indirect nerf for ruger)


I lol'd at you wanting the MP5 and Spas buffed. The spas, as it is, is.. Grossly overpowered. The mp5 less so, but still somewhat.

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Re: Minimi overpowered
« Reply #139 on: September 05, 2008, 01:16:37 pm »
Lol'd at you whining about the 2nd least used auto and close range semi...
Who's using the spas and mp5 nowadays (except me :s)?
Spas is surely overpowered in close range, same with mp5.. but they're supposed to own in close range. (I think that Steyr>mp5 and Ruger>Spas in most situations :E)