M79 - Weak or Balanced?

[woo]

M79 is closer to overpowered than weak. No balancing needed.

[Decaying Soldat]

good easy weapon for noobs to start on.

Which in theory is good but in practice it doesn't work like that. Many noobs use it as their first gun and don't 'progress' up the chain to harder-to-use guns, or more 'tactical' guns. If they do try and use an auto (which requires a lot of practise to be efficient) they will find that they are getting owned and switch back to M79, or go to Barret, another 1 hit kill weapon.

Good point, thats why m79 / Barret should be fixed

Agreed.

I also want to add that the m79 is too weak if used properly, due to the slow bullet speed, short range and awkward arc as mentioned above. Yet, it becomes overpowered if you kamikaze with it all the time (especially in tight spaces).

And there isn't many good solutions to the m79-problem. If you buff it, then it would make the kamikaze even more ridiculously powerful, but if you nerf it, even less people would want to learn how to use it properly. It's the way how m79 is being used (by noobs) which kept it from getting a fix.

[mar77a]

Some weapons are better in certain situations. If all weapons were good all-around, then lets just all pick the weapon we like the most instead of the most useful for the situation / map / etc.

[TAMAman]

I am not an m79 fan. It's balanced, but at close quarters it becomes overpowered and is very unfun to go against.

[SDFilm]

Grenades - Need to be nerfed

Minimi overpowered

M79 - Weak or Balanced?

FFS people, give the leading questions a rest will ya?

[excruciator]

the reason that is not as used in clanwars its because its a 1 hitter, and its risky.
Its basically either you do extremely well and hit the shot, or you die and let the enemy go to the base.

I have such a hard time countering m79s. I rush a lot and I always end up killed because well..because my dps is so much lower than a m79s.

Let me guess, you probably use autos or more accurately, either a MP5 or a Spas?

I am actually more of an AUG.
In a ctf game everyone basically rush to enemies base no matter what gun you got.

I am not sure that m79 is unbalanced. Sure it gets annoying, but the range restriction kinda restricts it to small maps such as nuubia and....Ash?

So its not much of a prob for me.

[SDFilm]

It's also annoying in maps that are large but have plenty of curves and corners, like Arena. Once an M79er kept shooting-hiding-healing so much that I just quit the 1v1 with our scores still at 0-0 (or close to it) after 10 minutes due to the extreme boredom.

[Mastadi]

M79 is quite balanced, although it should be able to shoot homing missiles at anybody who says 'm79 noob' :/ Seriously, if you treat it like barrett or ruger, and charge at the M79'er, it's obvious it's easy to kill you. Treat it like a saw or spas, keep away from the user and try to dodge the bullets, and you should be fine.

[SDFilm]

M79 is quite balanced, although it should be able to shoot homing missiles at anybody who says 'm79 noob' :/ Seriously, if you treat it like barrett or ruger, and charge at the M79'er, it's obvious it's easy to kill you. Treat it like a saw or spas, keep away from the user and try to dodge the bullets, and you should be fine.

Yes that is the general counter too it, but its very dependant on the map and other conditions.

[$niper]

Its over powered in my opinion not to mention damn annoying.

[TAMAman]

Personally, I'd rather have a fight, not an instant death. Sniper is less instant, it takes real skill to time that right. But with m79, I constantly find myself just being blown to smithereens on sight. The other thing is that if you don't die instantly, the explosion will totally throw you off when it launches you straight up. Especially a pain if you're using a knife.

[JonWood007]

IMO, I think the M79 is a little bit overpowered. I dont think the solution comes in weakening the m79, but strengthening the other guns somewhat. Not much though. But I think many of the others need a slight boost in order to compete with this 1 hit kill monstrosity.

Overall, the balance of the game is not that bad. Slight modifications will fix the balance among most guns..

[Gnoblar]

Balanced I think. I mean, every M79er has a K/D ratio of 1/1 usually as they shoot someone and then die. It's fair. Besides, any good player can beat an M79er, but it does depend on the situatuion.

[Sir Jeremy]

Imo - M79 is Balanced enough.  There's so many Threads that ask this Question, lol.
True, It kills one hit, but not ALWAYS..And there's many ways to counter it
Just not when Im using it - Ftw :]

[Cold Hand]

I dont think its balanced as it can  be countered only by a sniper.

While rushing , m79ers have all the advantages even if they fight in the open, with accuracy  at least 1 opponent will be taken out.
Only a sniper will have the chance to take a m79 rusher out.

[Mx7]

Who cares if it has slow reload and bullet . The slow bullet doesnt rly matter cuz in most of the cases the distance between 2 enemies are small on a half-full / full server . And reloading ? Come on ! You spawn , at like your flag you already have a bullet ready to shoot , you kill smb at like center of the map , you wait a few more seconds and continue killing . They usually dont appear like 2 or 3 ... and the distance between them is quite big  -  estimated

[Shadow G-Unit]

It's balanced. As an ALT route player, I've pretty much "mastered" the m79 to some degree. The weakness that veteran players have found in players like me is that distance is the key, so grab a Steyr or AK, and you're ready to go. Also, spraying with a Steyr is VERY effective, since the recoil slows me down and it hurts me. That seems to be an auto's greatest advantage over the m79. So you kids need to learn not to rush so damn much and use tactics. How do I know? Rushers die 85% of the time, the 15% they learn to not rush and by the posts above mine seems like they are rushers 24/7.

[Clawbug]

Yet people keep whining about slow gameplay, but themselves all they do is spray and others would rush. Quite logical, actually. Whine that others are too slow, and once they start going fast, they are actually even easier baits.

Oh, world is so cruel. :p

[excruciator]

It's balanced. As an ALT route player, I've pretty much "mastered" the m79 to some degree. The weakness that veteran players have found in players like me is that distance is the key, so grab a Steyr or AK, and you're ready to go. Also, spraying with a Steyr is VERY effective, since the recoil slows me down and it hurts me. That seems to be an auto's greatest advantage over the m79. So you kids need to learn not to rush so damn much and use tactics. How do I know? Rushers die 85% of the time, the 15% they learn to not rush and by the posts above mine seems like they are rushers 24/7.

Still, on a tactical point of view, when a vet is paired up with the m79, even if he is against a sprayer, the m79er is in advantage.
Steyr wont rush because he know that he's going to get killed, m79 could choose to not rush and basically freezes the route, or to attack and push the other guy back.
So unless m79 makes a stupid mistake or reinforcement comes(which is unlikely, since 1 route will be open, and people dont do that), the route is secured and basically depending on how m79 play's his hand, he's in command of the route.

[Shadow G-Unit]

It's balanced. As an ALT route player, I've pretty much "mastered" the m79 to some degree. The weakness that veteran players have found in players like me is that distance is the key, so grab a Steyr or AK, and you're ready to go. Also, spraying with a Steyr is VERY effective, since the recoil slows me down and it hurts me. That seems to be an auto's greatest advantage over the m79. So you kids need to learn not to rush so damn much and use tactics. How do I know? Rushers die 85% of the time, the 15% they learn to not rush and by the posts above mine seems like they are rushers 24/7.

Still, on a tactical point of view, when a vet is paired up with the m79, even if he is against a sprayer, the m79er is in advantage.
Steyr wont rush because he know that he's going to get killed, m79 could choose to not rush and basically freezes the route, or to attack and push the other guy back.
So unless m79 makes a stupid mistake or reinforcement comes(which is unlikely, since 1 route will be open, and people dont do that), the route is secured and basically depending on how m79 play's his hand, he's in command of the route.

You sound like you're talking about TW. To the point, since you are an AUG user, you would use it in a tactical way, would you not? In a map like Laos, going low is very fun with an m79 is fun however the length of the level is my greatest weakness. I've experienced this against xurich, a good barretter, it is so FRUSTRATING going low knowing half of the time you're going to die.

- I'll finish my thought later.