ctf_CG_Crazed

[Cookiegangsta]

Edit the blockness.

-No weather
-468 polygons

[jrgp]

That texture looks pretty sexy, for some odd reason I have yet to understand how to explain, it seems to go good with the map's background. Judging from the overview, this map doesn't seem as hard as most of the other KZ maps. I count that as a plus because I generally suck at them.

Good job.

[ViN]

"Yet another motherfucking gridmap" - SonSukka
The texture isn't pretty sexy ingame, it's sonsukka's one used in SS_Techno.
Anyways the only sceneries you've used are fx_ ones, there is no shading, the map is made with grid, so it won't be fun to play it 'cause all the jumps repeat and they are the same.
You failed once again, take your time and try harder.

[Cookiegangsta]

Vin why do you hate?

[Mothafix]

Vin why do you hate?

Because he thinks Vinland is the best map in the world.

Although once again I agree with him that you should take time and make something that doesn't make peoples eyes bleed. I find that crazy texture a bit annoying and bright background colours are not nice.

[ViN]

Vin why do you hate?

Because he thinks Vinland is the best map in the world.

Although once again I agree with him that you should take time and make something that doesn't make peoples eyes bleed. I find that crazy texture a bit annoying and bright background colours are not nice.

Nope, my maps are totally lame, I'm just trying to make them stop using grid and fx_ sceneries(vinland was a proof that I'm better mapper than they are in one of the flamewars).

[Cookiegangsta]

Vin.... go away. <.<

[The Geologist]

Nope, my maps are totally lame, I'm just trying to make them stop using grid and fx_ sceneries(vinland was a proof that I'm better mapper than they are in one of the flamewars).

There's nothing wrong with using the grid.  I use it when I map.  You could just tell people to tweak the polys after using the grid, instead of trying to force your opinions on them.  You really don't have grounds to make anyone stop doing anything.

And for what it's worth, I've never heard of Vinland.  You aren't Gods gift to mapping, so either offer up more productive responses or I begin to hand out warnings to you. 

We good?

[ViN]

Nope, my maps are totally lame, I'm just trying to make them stop using grid and fx_ sceneries(vinland was a proof that I'm better mapper than they are in one of the flamewars).

There's nothing wrong with using the grid.  I use it when I map.  You could just tell people to tweak the polys after using the grid, instead of trying to force your opinions on them.  You really don't have grounds to make anyone stop doing anything.

And for what it's worth, I've never heard of Vinland.  You aren't Gods gift to mapping, so either offer up more productive responses or I begin to hand out warnings to you. 

We good?

In a normal map grid is okay, but in a climbing map grid makes the jumps repeat all the time and the map gets boring in like 5 minutes.
Why the hell you defend something, if you don't know what it's about?
Warn me if you think I should be warned, I don't care.

[Jakious]

Geologist, i'm not sure if you're a climber but if you're a serious one you tend to climb every map. When they are gridmaps, and have the same slidejump 10 times in a row this gets tedious. Vin's just getting the the root of the problem; the production.
Cookie, you're getting better with the looks, only this one looks reeeeeeaally boring. Desertmap was fun because of the billions of shortcuts.
And also, i'm not condoning your behaviour Vin, but there's really nothing I think you can do about stopping bad maps being made.

[ViN]

And also, i'm not condoning your behaviour Vin, but there's really nothing I think you can do about stopping bad maps being made.

I'll keep trying anyways.
Telling them that in every single topic and even banning them isn't working, time to flame.

[The Geologist]

Why would anyone get banned?  The only people deserving of warnings/bans are the people who like to instigate in what should otherwise be a constructive topic.

I know that repetitiveness in climbing maps stemming from using the grid is an issue.  This is why I suggested going back after laying things down with the grid and tweaking the polys to be individual and different.  I know exactly what I'm talking about, Vin.  Rest assured.

Furthermore, if you want people to stop making bad climb maps, you could do more to correct the problem.  Saying "vinland was a proof that I'm better mapper than they are in one of the flamewars" does nothing.  Not a thing.

You want to help Cookie or others make a better climbing maps?  Stress thinking through routes and layouts, stress alternatives to using the grid, or at least ways to change the map after the grid so things aren't so repetitive.  Show him some good examples of climbing maps, reference some of the greats and break it down with a picture or two.  If you want people to make better maps, help teach them to do so.

And no, it's not time to flame.  Don't press your luck there.

[ViN]

Why the hell you're all going on my lame map?
We were teaching them how to make their maps better for a long time.
Good examples of grid climbmaps? Trank's maps, they're gridded but every jump is diffrent, they're colorful and nice to play.
There are bunch of tutorials that I have linked them many times, they've got everything explained nicely and some examples how their map should look, yet only drag has improved.

[Cookiegangsta]

^ When did you send links to help me? The first map I made, you have flame me on.

Anyway, thanks for the comments which actually helps. To be honest I never knew gird maps are bad because no one haven't told me yet.

[Underworld]

And also, i'm not condoning your behaviour Vin, but there's really nothing I think you can do about stopping bad maps being made.

I'll keep trying anyways.
Telling them that in every single topic and even banning them isn't working, time to flame.

LOL!!!

This is lame :/ looks like a crappy copy of sonsukkas techno and i didnt really like that map @ all

[Jakious]

Oh you still play Underworld?
I thought you went insane and quit.
I still remember the time when you made a server just after you finished castleclimb.. I downloaded the map, climbed some then went offline and capped it and you banned me because you said I was lying :/

[Cookiegangsta]

^lol owned?

Anyway... I might edit this map.

[Blacksheepboy]

^lol owned?

Stop taking the opportunity to laugh in people's faces who are getting criticized for old habits and grudges, and fix your map. If you are going to edit your map, don't post a 6 word comment on it. Do it. <-- I'm not a model example of this...but I have my reasons :\

[Cookiegangsta]

Updated, still look kinda blocky though... :/

[Sir Jeremy]

Cookie map looks pretty cool, but is it like a part climb map part Ctf?
Must have taken you quite a while to do it, looks complex.

also what map making program did you use, if I may ask.

Thanks.