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Offline Magus86

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Burst fire/Select Fire
« on: May 15, 2008, 10:18:26 pm »
can we get some kind of weapon variable that says "shoot this many shots before having to stop" so that we can do 3-round and 2-round bursts in our weapons mods? I want a proper M-16A2, and the only way to do any kind of 3-round burst is to have regular full auto with 3-round mags, but then i have to make the reload time fast enough to make it seem like real 3-round burst... then they can sit there and shoot all day without the delay of a real reload.
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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2008, 11:33:01 pm »
Just wait until they implement new modding choices.

You will have alot of oprions if they do.
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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #2 on: May 16, 2008, 11:43:23 am »
Most weapons that have burst firing option also have full auto. So it's up to user to shoot in bursts, making a weapon that forces you to shoot in bursts is quite unrealistic. However, you can add recoil and bink, so they will have to shoot in bursts.

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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2008, 08:36:46 pm »
Unrealistic, my ass. the M-16A2 has no full auto, it's only 3-round burst. adding recoil and bink doesn't make people fire in bursts. I want it so 1 click = 3 shots, not "hold down til 3 bullets leave the gun." your idea doesn't force people to shoot 3-round bursts. they can still spray and pray, and with the fast ROF on an M4/M-16, it would be kind of hard to stop at exactly 3 shots each time. and it wouldn't make any sense for an m-16 to have a lot of recoil anyway. Besides that, i don't want people running around with full auto m-16s.

Also, it would be nice to have select-fire options on our guns... that is, to be able to choose between semi, full auto, and burst fire(if the gun has it). With an option on how many bullets a burst can fire, combined with a select fire option, I can make a nice realistic AN-94.
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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2008, 09:09:38 pm »
Burst fire as a ini option -- yes, but multiple fire modes? You're playing the wrong game, kid.
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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2008, 11:19:38 pm »
Well yeah... what's wrong with select fire? Supposedly only having 3-round burst is unrealistic. So is a hell of a lot of the rest of the game too, but for the sake of realism/expanding the modding capabilities, I'd love to have select fire option for all weapons.


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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2008, 02:09:48 am »
One of the M16s is only burst fire, kid
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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2008, 04:47:04 am »
My X53 form my 2057 AD mod has three round burst. You just make it have three shots in a clip, wth a low fire interval, and a fairly low reload time. You can then click the mouse (Not hold) and you get single shot.

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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2008, 01:19:24 pm »
My X53 form my 2057 AD mod has three round burst. You just make it have three shots in a clip, wth a low fire interval, and a fairly low reload time. You can then click the mouse (Not hold) and you get single shot.

That's what we don't want to do.
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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2008, 03:55:27 pm »
Very good idea add some more variables in weapons.ini
Not only burst shots, i sugest to add more reload options like in spas, add weapon fire mode (single or auto) example--> spas with auto fire mode or minimi with single fire mode :)

My idea:

[USSOCOM]
Damage=171
FireMode=1         // 1-single 2-auto 3-burst
BurstSize=0        // only when fire mode is 3, shots in one burst
FireInterval=12
Ammo=12
ReloadMode=1        // 1-change magazine, 2-add one bulet (like a spas reload)
ReloadTime=65
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0
« Last Edit: May 26, 2008, 04:15:14 pm by Zabijaka »

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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #10 on: May 26, 2008, 07:53:47 pm »
Been suggested, I approved, it got down. Happens usually about once a month. So here's the F12. Don't be upset when it doesn't happen.
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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #11 on: May 26, 2008, 11:38:51 pm »
...And stop calling me kid. I'm 22.

Moral of the story: NEVER call anyone a kid.

It's a good suggestion, but it seems like it may not be made. Lots of suggestions related have been made before.

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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2008, 05:18:49 am »
My X53 form my 2057 AD mod has three round burst. You just make it have three shots in a clip, wth a low fire interval, and a fairly low reload time. You can then click the mouse (Not hold) and you get single shot.
Then it'll have the same problem which is that you get "infinite ammo"
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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2008, 12:25:01 pm »
Meh. Why can't you just burst the guns by repeatedly clikcing your mouse?

Also, there is no M16A2 in this game.

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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2008, 07:32:01 pm »
Meh. Why can't you just burst the guns by repeatedly clikcing your mouse?

Also, there is no M16A2 in this game.

He's talking about a mod to the weapon.ini

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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2008, 11:17:18 pm »
... Jon, I know there's no M-16A2 in the game I want to make one, as well as other guns that should have 3-round burst. And yeah, I could just click repeatedly, but then nobdy else is forced to do that, so they'll just shoot full auto.

Also, with burst fire combined with Select fire options, I could make a nice AN-94, Sig 550/1/2, proper MP5, Enfield L85A1, and Beretta 93r.

And Gnoblar, I could do that too, but then the gun has unlimited ammo.

I'll definitely be upset if I don't see it, just not surprised.
« Last Edit: May 29, 2008, 11:27:42 pm by Magus86 »

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Re: Burst fire??
« Reply #16 on: October 31, 2008, 09:32:47 am »
Very good idea add some more variables in weapons.ini
Not only burst shots, i sugest to add more reload options like in spas, add weapon fire mode (single or auto) example--> spas with auto fire mode or minimi with single fire mode :)

My idea:

[USSOCOM]
Damage=171
FireMode=1         // 1-single 2-auto 3-burst
BurstSize=0        // only when fire mode is 3, shots in one burst
FireInterval=12
Ammo=12
ReloadMode=1        // 1-change magazine, 2-add one bulet (like a spas reload)
ReloadTime=65
Speed=180
BulletStyle=1
StartUpTime=0
Bink=0
MovementAcc=1
Recoil=0

hellyeah this would be awesome

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Re: Burst fire/Select Fire
« Reply #17 on: October 31, 2008, 11:19:24 am »
Why not? f12


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Re: Burst fire/Select Fire
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2008, 11:55:09 pm »
Old topic...

Anyway can a mod add a poll here? I'll support it with a F12 for modding.

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Re: Burst fire/Select Fire
« Reply #19 on: November 01, 2008, 05:30:55 am »
Yeah, polls are good :)

And look, this is yet another thread about adding more modding capabilities to weapons.ini. Maybe we should make a poll about whole idea...