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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #80 on: June 06, 2008, 11:41:27 pm »
I'm sensing... sarcasm...

Anyway, Minigun is a team-based weapon, not supposed to be for combat. In 1.5's its gonna have a MUCH higher bullet speed and faster firing rate (3 instead of 4) and slightly lower damage per shot and clip (but higher damage per second), and -15 reload, and less self bink. Yes, the faster firing rate and bullet speed sounds kinda mad, but that is meant for 1.5, use these stats in 1.4.2 and they'd not work as they would on 1.5.

Why? The boosting effect of the minigun is gonna be lowered, so maybe the minigun in 1.5 would still boost as much as now despite having faster firing rate and higher bullet speed. Furthermore, the bullet push is gonna be reduced too. I don't know whether it can push enemies more or less effectively.

I think the Minigun would still pretty crappy though...
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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #81 on: June 07, 2008, 07:50:02 am »
From what I have played with, it's much more effective than before, a definate improvement.
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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #82 on: June 07, 2008, 11:06:55 am »
barret=best weapon
m79=good and very easy to use, everyone can use it and its for noobs imo
ruger=most fair weapon and good if u can use it

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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #83 on: June 07, 2008, 04:09:41 pm »
barret=best weapon
m79=good and very easy to use, everyone can use it and its for noobs imo
ruger=most fair weapon and good if u can use it
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[on topic] Now I personally think the best weapon is non of them. If you think well, all the weapon have an advantage of one another a.k.a. vicious circle. Therefore, people shouldn't say which weapon is best or which weapon is for noobs and so.
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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #84 on: June 08, 2008, 08:36:03 am »
Ruger is pretty much only thing thats worth using in this version.
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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #85 on: June 08, 2008, 10:29:19 am »
In 1.5.0, the pumped up weapons are Spas-12, Desert Eagles, and the Minigun. A nice upgrade for me because Spas, ammo and damage gets upgraded by 1. Deagles, my personal favorite, get a damage boost and speed boost. Very powerful when mastered like in sna.gather.


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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #86 on: June 08, 2008, 01:19:00 pm »
In 1.5.0, the pumped up weapons are Spas-12, Desert Eagles, and the Minigun. A nice upgrade for me because Spas, ammo and damage gets upgraded by 1. Deagles, my personal favorite, get a damage boost and speed boost. Very powerful when mastered like in sna.gather.

Does that mean we have to learn the new arc? Why would someone boost its speed ffs..
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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #87 on: June 08, 2008, 02:12:04 pm »
DE's have dmg and *reload* speed boost... not bullet speed ;d

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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #88 on: June 08, 2008, 03:32:44 pm »
DE's have dmg and *reload* speed boost... not bullet speed ;d

that make more sense..
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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #89 on: June 08, 2008, 03:46:43 pm »
steyr and ruger are probably the most used weapons this version (overpowered or best, you chose :/) spas is egtting 1 more bulelt and extra dmg, deagles get more dmg and shorter reload, not sure about the rest.



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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #90 on: June 09, 2008, 05:37:34 am »
In 1.5.0, the pumped up weapons are Spas-12, Desert Eagles, and the Minigun. A nice upgrade for me because Spas, ammo and damage gets upgraded by 1. Deagles, my personal favorite, get a damage boost and speed boost. Very powerful when mastered like in sna.gather.

ARE YOU SERIOUS? Making the Spaz even MORE powerful? Why the feck are they going to do that? IT CAN ALREADY KILL IN 2 HITS WTF ARE YOU THINKING HOLY bollocks!!!!

But seriously, that's fecking retarded. Please, PLEASE DON'T DO IT!!

I hate the fecking spaz!

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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #91 on: June 09, 2008, 06:22:41 am »
DE's have dmg and *reload* speed boost... not bullet speed ;d

Feck. Yes.

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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #92 on: June 09, 2008, 06:36:36 am »
ARE YOU SERIOUS? Making the Spaz even MORE powerful? Why the feck are they going to do that? IT CAN ALREADY KILL IN 2 HITS WTF ARE YOU THINKING HOLY bollocks!!!!

But seriously, that's fecking retarded. Please, PLEASE DON'T DO IT!!

I hate the fecking spaz!

Lmao.

Spas is actually very powerful, but it is very specialized. If you hate the Spas, you obviously do not know how to fight against a Spas-user. The Spas will own practically almost anything in close range, it can stand a chance at mid-range, and its unique reload gives it an advantage (I know how to make Spas shoot as though it has unlimited ammo!). It has a boosting effect, which can be a good or bad thing.

To fight Spas, simply stay at long range. If you can't keep a distance, you WILL lose.

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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #93 on: June 09, 2008, 11:02:35 am »
X-Rayz - +1 dmg isn't that much, and +1 ammo isn't really "ZOMGWTFHAX" change.
Oh, and bullet push will be reduced.

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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #94 on: June 10, 2008, 12:16:57 am »
X-Rayz - +1 dmg isn't that much, and +1 ammo isn't really "ZOMGWTFHAX" change.
Oh, and bullet push will be reduced.

The latest so far doesn't add +1 damage, but it adds +1 speed, which ultimately still increases damage by a bit.

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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #95 on: June 10, 2008, 07:43:12 am »
X-Rayz - +1 dmg isn't that much, and +1 ammo isn't really "ZOMGWTFHAX" change.
Oh, and bullet push will be reduced.

The latest so far doesn't add +1 damage, but it adds +1 speed, which ultimately still increases damage by a bit.

mid long range spas?
The thing is way out of his combat role.
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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #96 on: June 10, 2008, 10:08:51 am »
mid long range spas?
The thing is way out of his combat role.

Yep... I heard Spas has actually already been very powerful, just that the Spas is probably pretty unpopular with most players. I just find it weird how a Spas can easily defeat a mid-range weapon o.O

The speed is current 138. In older versions if was 140 or so.

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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #97 on: June 10, 2008, 10:33:17 am »
I'm sensing... sarcasm...

Anyway, Minigun is a team-based weapon, not supposed to be for combat. In 1.5's its gonna have a MUCH higher bullet speed and faster firing rate (3 instead of 4) and slightly lower damage per shot and clip (but higher damage per second), and -15 reload, and less self bink. Yes, the faster firing rate and bullet speed sounds kinda mad, but that is meant for 1.5, use these stats in 1.4.2 and they'd not work as they would on 1.5.

Why? The boosting effect of the minigun is gonna be lowered, so maybe the minigun in 1.5 would still boost as much as now despite having faster firing rate and higher bullet speed. Furthermore, the bullet push is gonna be reduced too. I don't know whether it can push enemies more or less effectively.

I think the Minigun would still pretty crappy though...
As I once said in a Minigun-specific topic, Minigun's real problem is the self-bink. It's shots are too widely spread right from the get go and only get worse as you hold it down. Concentrate it into a stream and it's pretty lethal, even with a lower damage-rating than normal.

Anywho, back on topic, if you're still looking for a weapon to play around with, SpeedKill, pick any auto (Aug, AK, MP5, Minimi) and just play around with that for a while. Autos are pretty much good all-around weapons that anyone can use easily. Once you get used to kicking ass with one of those, you can try some of the more "specialized" weapons like the Desert Eagles, M79 and such.

Eventually, who knows? You might be Spas-tastic.

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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #98 on: June 12, 2008, 05:15:47 pm »
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Re: Best Weapon?
« Reply #99 on: June 13, 2008, 02:35:06 am »
Trespasser mate, go to the SoldatForum counter and fetch a warning.  They will give you one for free.

As I think I have mentioned, SpeedKill is fine.  He is improving rapidly and... he just gets annoyed when versing barretts.  I'm sure if he's come up with a decision, he has experimented with all guns.
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