Who agrees with this statement?

[excruciator]

I've never said that "you can't beat a ruger with de's" - I've said that it's ruger is easier and more powerful.

And 80% acc is archiveable for everyone (imho).

BUZZ! Wrong!

[Rai-Dei]

Taking out player skill levels, a Ruger will beat a Deagle everytime.  Of course having more skill than the person is a win no matter what gun you use. The truth is, a Ruger kills faster then Deagles so if they both had 100% accuracy the Ruger would win.

[excruciator]

Taking out player skill levels, a Ruger will beat a Deagle everytime.  Of course having more skill than the person is a win no matter what gun you use. The truth is, a Ruger kills faster then Deagles so if they both had 100% accuracy the Ruger would win.

not taking human error into account is unrealistic. Ruger has 4 bullets, deagle has 7. Deag fires faster so it behaves more like an auto and it tolerate more errors. Ruger with movimentAcc its more susceptible to errors. Eventhough deag takes more shots, with some worm, you could tecnically win.

[Shadow G-Unit]

SSSSHHHEEEENNNNN! Rai-Dei and Ex-Legend are Deagles buddies for life.

[.::Blaze::.]

not the gunner, its the internet connection xD

[Mitak]

It's the bullets that do the dirty work.

[STM1993]

Seen at laundry - "Don't kill your wife! Let the washing machine do the dirty work!"

But ya, it can be concluded that in the end, there are multiple factors affecting the performance.

Factors include:
1. The gun itself
2. The gunner's own skill
3. The internet
4. The map
5. The situation
6. Your enemy

[Rai-Dei]

Oh and about lag, how will the Deagles unregs work?

Besides go fight an amazing Ruger with Deagles, I can assure they will win.  Most Rugertards don't fall victim to worm, they just shoot you.  Deagles do fire faster and have more bullets, but that will not stop a good Ruger. The simple fact is: unless the Deagler is grossly better than the Rugertard he wont win, you need to realise the Rock, Paper, Scissors system Soldat has.

[STM1993]

Oh and about lag, how will the Deagles unregs work?

Besides go fight an amazing Ruger with Deagles, I can assure they will win.  Most Rugertards don't fall victim to worm, they just shoot you.  Deagles do fire faster and have more bullets, but that will not stop a good Ruger. The simple fact is: unless the Deagler is grossly better than the Rugertard he wont win, you need to realise the Rock, Paper, Scissors system Soldat has.

And the distance between both users. If the DEs are close enough to the Ruger, the DEs will easily win.

And ya, it is true about the "scissors paper stone" system thingy. So the last factor I forgot to list out is:

Your ENEMY

[Rai-Dei]

Try getting close to a good Ruger to kill him. >_>

[-Major-]

Taking out player skill levels, a Ruger will beat a Deagle every time.  Of course having more skill than the person is a win no matter what gun you use. The truth is, a Ruger kills faster then Deagles so if they both had 100% accuracy the Ruger would win.

well the DEer will have a 3 hit kill on the rugerer. so if we take a look on the wm. which will tell us that for DE to FIRE 3 bullets will be 46 tickets. now for ruger to FIRE 2 bullets will take 40 tickets.

now DE is behind with 6 tickets, so lets calculate it to seconds, 6/60 = 0.1. so now we just have to look the the physics of the game. the bullet won't reach its target immediately, but it'll take a little time. now I cannot recall the values I had before. but it takes longer for a ruger bullet to reach its target than 0.1 seconds (depending on the range). so it's possible to tie a rugerer with DEs if both have 0% error on their aim. yet this is up to the map and distance.

[excruciator]

I'm pretty sure all semi has better DPS than autos. yet I like to use my steyr to counter ruger. It works. Since deag has a better DPS, I'm pretty sure that it will also work.

[Rai-Dei]

Aug works on Ruger because of the bink (and the Aug is a tad overpowered), DPS of Deagles on Ruger don't work to well because simply the Ruger beats a Deagle, no matter what you bring up, the fact is: a Ruger in a 1v1 against a Deagle of equal skill will win.

[JonWood007]

not the gunner, its the internet connection xD

Believe it or not, in soldat at least, I believe internet has very little impact compared to other games. I used to play this on dial up, and except for the occasional spike and ping kick, I had few problems.

And yeah, against the ruger, it is a rock-paper-scissors game. Use autos, they bink (I think AUG or MP5 are the best here). Or M79/Barrett, since they kill faster than the ruger (just dont miss).

Also, keep in mind I'm not denying that issues with the balance do exist. Personally, I think the ruger is a bit overpowered, but it isnt necessarily broken. Use the right gun against it, you have a better chance of winning. Then skill comes into it. A less experienced ruger player is more susceptible to bink than more experienced ones.

[-Major-]

not the gunner, its the internet connection xD

Believe it or not, in soldat at least, I believe internet has very little impact compared to other games. I used to play this on dial up, and except for the occasional spike and ping kick, I had few problems.

And yeah, against the ruger, it is a rock-paper-scissors game. Use autos, they bink (I think AUG or MP5 are the best here). Or M79/Barrett, since they kill faster than the ruger (just dont miss).

Also, keep in mind I'm not denying that issues with the balance do exist. Personally, I think the ruger is a bit overpowered, but it isnt necessarily broken. Use the right gun against it, you have a better chance of winning. Then skill comes into it. A less experienced ruger player is more susceptible to bink than more experienced ones.

pfff, I'm on a 8/2 mb line. still people warp like everywhere and sometimes eats can get up to 80%. and soldats lag is the 2nd worst I've seen.

[JonWood007]

There are some warpers, but not many. And if people do lag that bad, they are normally kicked pretty quickly.

Also, about lag being bad in soldat. Play Soldier Front. Trust me, the lag of that game makes soldat pale in comparison. Or is the the worst lag you've ever seen since soldat is 2nd worst?

[Ziem]

Use autos, they bink

Sure, they are binking barret.
But ruger? lol.

[BRADEN]

its the map.

I agree, for example in Nuubia, M79 is the best weapon.

Date Posted: May 29, 2008, 02:34:45 pm

There are some warpers, but not many. And if people do lag that bad, they are normally kicked pretty quickly.

Also, about lag being bad in soldat. Play Soldier Front. Trust me, the lag of that game makes soldat pale in comparison. Or is the the worst lag you've ever seen since soldat is 2nd worst?

Lag is SF was equal to that on Soldat. People rarely reach over 200 ping.

Date Posted: May 29, 2008, 02:35:48 pm

not the gunner, its the internet connection xD

Believe it or not, in soldat at least, I believe internet has very little impact compared to other games. I used to play this on dial up, and except for the occasional spike and ping kick, I had few problems.

And yeah, against the ruger, it is a rock-paper-scissors game. Use autos, they bink (I think AUG or MP5 are the best here). Or M79/Barrett, since they kill faster than the ruger (just dont miss).

Also, keep in mind I'm not denying that issues with the balance do exist. Personally, I think the ruger is a bit overpowered, but it isnt necessarily broken. Use the right gun against it, you have a better chance of winning. Then skill comes into it. A less experienced ruger player is more susceptible to bink than more experienced ones.

pfff, I'm on a 8/2 mb line. still people warp like everywhere and sometimes eats can get up to 80%. and soldats lag is the 2nd worst I've seen.

Never seen anything like what you're talking about before. Make sure you're not playing in an aussie srver if you're from Europe or vice versa.

[a-4-year-old]

Try getting close to a good Ruger to kill him. >_>

see: map.

[excruciator]

Aug works on Ruger because of the bink (and the Aug is a tad overpowered), DPS of Deagles on Ruger don't work to well because simply the Ruger beats a Deagle, no matter what you bring up, the fact is: a Ruger in a 1v1 against a Deagle of equal skill will win.

1.5 balance for ruger has no bink. because the bink was not doing anything to the ruger. I use aug not because I want to bink him, because Im better at aug. I'm pretty sure deag can win.