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Offline Aquarius

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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #40 on: June 18, 2008, 06:30:40 am »
Link, please? (Unless you mean oldbar, which only restores the look, not the functionality.)

Link

Very funny  ::)


In case someone needs it, here is a solution to get rid of the intelligent address bar in Opera:

1. Turn off option "Addressbar Content Search" in opera:config

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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #41 on: June 18, 2008, 07:20:14 am »
I wish there was an option to turn that off in Firefox. :(
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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #42 on: June 18, 2008, 08:33:07 am »
I downloaded Firefox 3 a few hours ago, like many others. Since then I've been spending my time finding a way to revert the so-called "awesome bar" to its predecessor's behavior, since I absolutely hate the way the new "intelligent search algorithm" works. It's ineffective, unintuitive and to top it off very slow. I know that there are many users that raise this feature to the heavens and claim it to be the best feature of FF3, but as for myself, I can't stand it. Typing a single "s" into the location bar (which was in FF2 a quick way for me to access several Soldat related websites) now gives me the excellent suggestion of visiting www.google.se, because of the single S in the TLD. To quote the feature list, "results are returned according to their a combination of frequency, and recency of visits to that page". I doubt I can somehow visit, say, this very site more than my localized Google site. And I tend to remember website URL:s more so than the actual titles as well - in FF2 typing "forums.soldat.pl", to take the obvious example, would neatly list the most recent paged I had viewed here. I could go on and point out more things that bother me about it, but I just can't be arsed.

But thanks to what seems to be sheer arrogance from the Mozilla Developers they didn't even bother giving the user the choice of simply having the auto-completion work the FF2 way. (I remember seeing a quote from the devs saying that they would not add this either, and that users would get used to it eventually and realize it's so much better. Thank you very much, but I think I know myself what I prefer.) Yes, there are certain ways to slightly tweak the algorithm, and to make it less obtrusive or even hide it altogether. But should adding an option to revert it back to the FF2 behavior really be such a big thing, considering the other 14,999 improvements they've done to FF3? Opera has the same feature, but you can actually turn it off.

If there is a way to get my precious URL bar back ye olde style, then do tell. I most certainly haven't found one. If there isn't, then I might as well go back to FF2 or switch to Opera. (Which for the record is a very nice browser. It displays pages, and stuff.)

It is trivial to turn the awesomebar off :http://www.kennycarlile.net/2008/06/17/disabled-firefox-3-awesomebar/


As well as hundreds/thousands of other results for "firefox3 disable awesomebar": http://www.google.com/search?q=firefox3+disable+awesomebar

edit: btw I didn't like it at first as well, but now I think it is (appropriately) awesome.  Give it a few weeks to learn what you do, what addresses you use most.  You'll learn how it works without even having to think about it and eventually it works just like the old one if that's all you use it for.  If you leave it on, it'll work like the old one but you'll also have the added functionality (like I know that when I want to get to my bank logon, I type "log o" in the address bar and hit down+enter and that's it).

Give it a few weeks, I bet you'll end up liking it (not just Toumaz, but anyone who thinks they don't like it right now)
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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #43 on: June 18, 2008, 09:00:24 am »
It is trivial to turn the awesomebar off :http://www.kennycarlile.net/2008/06/17/disabled-firefox-3-awesomebar/

As well as hundreds/thousands of other results for "firefox3 disable awesomebar": http://www.google.com/search?q=firefox3+disable+awesomebar
Turn it off, yes; those setting disables the URL auto-completion entirely.  You might call me picky, but that doesn't give me back the old FF2 location bar behavior.

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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #44 on: June 18, 2008, 09:25:57 am »
If you look through the rest of those google results, there are at least a few that talk about how to revert to Fx2-like behavior.  I didn't really read the one I linked to, it just looked right at first glance.

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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #45 on: June 18, 2008, 09:33:01 am »
If you look through the rest of those google results, there are at least a few that talk about how to revert to Fx2-like behavior.  I didn't really read the one I linked to, it just looked right at first glance.
I already did, and I searched yesterday for a solution too, as I mentioned in my original post. All I've seen are articles on how to disable it entirely (or to make its appearance more FF2-like), which isn't a feasible solution for me.

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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #46 on: June 18, 2008, 10:34:40 am »
Personally, I don't have a preference when it comes to the search bar. It does what it needs to do. When I was using FF2, I never even scrolled through or looked at the menu that drops down from the bar.

After using Firefox 3 for months (betas) on Linux, I finally installed Firefox 3 stable on my grandparents old dell. I was amazed at how quickly it opened (their pc has a 3ghz P4 w/ 512mb of ram) compared to Firefox 2.

The new version pwns all!
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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #47 on: June 18, 2008, 01:05:00 pm »
 -> (13:57) From stroke, to mozilla:
 - you want the 'oldbar' plugin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6227

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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #48 on: June 18, 2008, 01:44:58 pm »
At any rate, it seems like Mozilla has passed their download goal:
http://downloadcounter.sj.mozilla.com/
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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #49 on: June 18, 2008, 02:10:06 pm »
-> (13:57) From stroke, to mozilla:
 - you want the 'oldbar' plugin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6227

... from the plugin description:
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Note that the underlying autocomplete algorithm is the Firefox 3 algorithm, not the Firefox 2 algorithm. oldbar only affects the presentation of the results.[/qoute]

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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #50 on: June 18, 2008, 04:11:50 pm »
According to this map: http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord, nobody in North Korea has downloaded Firefox 3. Damn commies.

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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #51 on: June 18, 2008, 04:42:26 pm »
http://www.spreadfirefox.com/en-US/worldrecord

Nice!
84000 downloads from Turkey ^^

Edit:
Wrong link.
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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #52 on: June 19, 2008, 08:08:00 am »
WOOO WE WON!!! U-S-A! U-S-A!
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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #53 on: June 19, 2008, 08:56:09 am »
Now that, is pretty cool. Using it now. My awesome bar thing is completely disabled though, even though I don't think I'd be affected by it, because I'd normally spell the whole thing out by myself or use the bookmark feature that I've always been using. Personally I prefer the appearance of the older FF2 bar, but I'm fine with it anyway.
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Re: Firefox 3 download day announced
« Reply #54 on: June 19, 2008, 09:10:21 am »
-> (13:57) From stroke, to mozilla:
 - you want the 'oldbar' plugin: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/6227

... from the plugin description:
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Note that the underlying autocomplete algorithm is the Firefox 3 algorithm, not the Firefox 2 algorithm. oldbar only affects the presentation of the results.[/qoute]

well crap, I guess you're just doomed to a life of misery or something.  Personally I think anyone who doesn't like it should give it a few weeks and if you use it like the old address bar, it'll end up working like the old address bar.